Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

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  • TMagic
    G.O.A.T.
    • Apr 2007
    • 7550

    #1

    Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

    Kinda long, but I ask that you bare with me here...

    Let me preface this by saying that there could be a slew of arguments going against my point here. Matter of fact, my argument may not make any sense at all. Lol

    But I've been thinking about this on and off and I wanted to hear you guys' opinions.

    So...in 2006 I moved out of my mom's place and got my own. That was after many first year of college. I would live on my own until about March of this year.

    I had nothing to show for it.

    Now, since being back home with my mom and brother just for the past 10 months or so, I have been able to save around five thousand dollars. 4000 of which is in the market. I didn't start working until about June. I had to build up clientele in the beginning. So it wasnt even until about August or September that I crossed four figures a month.

    I always wanted to be able to put my money towards something that will help make make more. But I never had the opportunity of doing so because of the expenses that come with living on my own.

    This got me thinking... why do we place such great emphasis on moving out? It seems dumb when you think about it. The positives seem to far outweigh any negatives.

    Lets take myself for example. In Miami, my friend and I were living in a two bedroom. We paid 1200 a month for just rent. That 600 a month hurt! But lets say we both would be living with a significant other and we co-habited this same apartment. Now we're only talking about 300 per person. MUCH more manageable for everybody. Now the house as a whole have about $1200 to play with...EVERY MONTH... That money is now essentially "free".

    Lets take it a step further. Say theres a household with just immediate family. Husband, wife, soon, and daughter. And lets say that the "children" are adults; old enough to work. Lets be very conservative and say that they each are making a modest $25000 a year. So as a household, they are making about $100,000 yearly or $8,300 a month together.

    Now the kicker...From what I've looked at, the average family budget is about $50,000 a year, or $4200 a month. Now for a two income home, thats a lot. Money will be tight. But for or generic family here, that isn't too much of a problem from the looks of things. They'd have about $4000 left over every month. $50000 at the end of the year as a unit.Now imagine if a few of them were making more than the bare minimum Ive assigned them here...

    Which brings me back to my point... why do we struggle trying to make it on our own instead of leaning on each other, whether its family or friends?

    In other countries and cultures, family is really important and you don't just leave because you're old enough to do so. In these cultures, research has shown there to be less stress and cardiac episodes. And the quality of life is higher.

    I love my family and love being around them. So I wouldn't mind being in a huge household so long as everybody is getting along. I actually think it would be really fun. Not to mention that I think kids would develop better in this sort of environment.

    It just doesn't make much sense to me when I think about the concept of leaving the nest.

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by TMagic; 01-14-2013, 04:52 AM.
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  • GAMEC0CK2002
    Stayin Alive
    • Aug 2002
    • 10384

    #2
    Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

    1) There is a negative stigma on "living in your mom's basement" past your college years

    IMO, as long as you don't get content and have a long-term game plan then living at home and saving money is almost always the right move.

    It will probably hamper your dating life. Girls past college tend to dismiss a guy that is living at home.

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    • DaveDQ
      13
      • Sep 2003
      • 7664

      #3
      Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

      I do not think there is anything wrong with living with your family. I think the most important thing to set is boundaries. That means that you don't intrude on what one family member is doing and they don't intrude on you. In many cases, families stick together and be miserable together, but in healthy cases, families can live on the same street and establish themselves in a very well-fit way.

      The key to it is that the relationships are healthy. Then, when the time is right, you take the quality of life your family cultivated in you and you bring it with your spouse...and you develop your family. Or, you get a place of your own and develop that into something to be proud of.
      Last edited by DaveDQ; 01-13-2013, 10:40 PM.
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      • JODYE
        JB4MVP
        • May 2012
        • 4834

        #4
        Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

        Was going to say, once you get out of high school, the percentage of girls that will come back to your parents basement, drops to a whopping 0%.

        So basically, if you don't like getting laid, living at home is a perfect plan lol

        In all honestly though, I think it's more the way society views it as a negative, more so than it actually being a negative in respect to the argument you made here.

        However, I'm also a firm believer in leaving the nest to feel a sense of real world responsibility. Taking care of things on your own and not having a security blanket is part of the maturing process.

        Did I mention you're never going to convince a woman to come to your parents house? Just checking.
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        • justblaze09
          Swaggy Poole
          • Mar 2007
          • 3523

          #5
          Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

          Originally posted by 13
          Did I mention you're never going to convince a woman to come to your parents house? Just checking.
          You need to go to Detroit, because it's not that hard.

          If you're helping out, I don't see the problem with living with your parents. It's when you become a slob when it becomes a no-no.
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          • TheMatrix31
            RF
            • Jul 2002
            • 52906

            #6
            Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

            I love living with my family. Nothing wrong with it at all.

            Some people have broken homes and want to get out. I understand that. Personally if you're not moving to another city or truly have another job capable of providing you with a roof over your head (NO ROOMMATES), then staying home is EASILY the best option. Couldn't care less about the "social stigma" anyway. Fiscal responsibility is not exactly looked well upon in society anyway apparently so what should I care about what people think about that or anything else?

            Who cares about what chicks like or don't like. Putting them on a pedestal does nothing but reinforce to them that they control things, and we wonder why they're bitches to us the vast majority of the time. Only caring about sex is just as shallow as chicks looking down on you for being in your parents' house past college.
            Last edited by TheMatrix31; 01-14-2013, 02:50 AM.

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            • Lava
              Pro
              • Mar 2009
              • 966

              #7
              Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

              I think it makes sense if you're pulling your fair share of the weight financially [i.e. paying some amount for rent, utilities, buying your own groceries, etc.]. Otherwise, you're really just a leech and even if it is the best financial situation for you it's coming at your family's expense.
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              • bichettehappens
                MVP
                • Jun 2010
                • 2547

                #8
                Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

                I'd live at home to save money if it weren't for the fact my mom and I would end up strangling each other

                We get along much better when we don't have to see each other every day and I enjoy my freedom. I've got student loans from living on/near campus all through college and now credit card debt due to furniture, rent, spontaneous purchases but I wouldn't trade being debt free if it mean living at home. Just could not do it, personally.

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                • Chaos81
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 17150

                  #9
                  Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

                  I moved home back last year so I could save money. I pay rent, buy my own food, help around the house/yard, and basically stay out of my parents way. It was tough to get used to and it's still a bit weird at times, but the money saved pays for everything school related so I'm not bothered at all by living back at home.

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                  • ubernoob
                    ****
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 15522

                    #10
                    Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

                    Once you get serious, buying your own place is cheaper than renting. Our small 1-bedroom here is 1100ish a month, where if we were to want to settle in this area we could get almost 2000 sq. ft (like a 3/4 br 2 bath) for that price or slightly over.

                    When we move to Wisconsin, that price of buying is only going to drop.

                    Either way, do what you want. **** society and what they think.
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                    • 24
                      Forever A Legend
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2809

                      #11
                      Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

                      I don't see a problem with living at home to a certain age. It is all up to your own personal preferences and the situation you are in. With this awful economy, the shrinking job market and the massive amount of student loan debt, we're going to see many more college graduates staying home instead of moving out. It's tough making a name for yourself right now in America with so much competition, yet so little jobs to fill. So Many adults won't be able to afford the luxury of living by themselves once they graduate. As for the personal reasons, if you enjoy living home then stay home. Screw what everyone else thinks just do what is best for you.


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                      • 55
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 20857

                        #12
                        Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

                        Originally posted by 24
                        I don't see a problem with living at home to a certain age.
                        This.

                        If you're in your twenties and your parents actually have a house, that's one thing. If you hit your mid-thirties and you are a male still living with your mother in an apartment, you just might end up like the subject of this thread:

                        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...al-people.html

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                        • TMagic
                          G.O.A.T.
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 7550

                          #13
                          Good discussion fellas...

                          What I'd like for us to also do is look beyond the "Staying with mommy and daddy because its all I can do scenario."

                          I'm thinking more along the lines of the family that stays together FOR the family because they WANT to.

                          I'm thinking about an altruistic family setup where every indivdual works as one. The family as a whole works towards paying for whatever the family needs and everybody is contributing.

                          In my very crude estimation, this family would be MUCH better off than the typical American family that branches off early. They would be happier, closer, less stressed, healthier, and have A LOT more disposable income.

                          In my example from earlier, lets say their mortgage was $1500 a month. Each person would basically be contributing 425 to pay for the mortgage and utilities. But remember that they'd have about $50,000 left over every year. They could essentially pay the mortgage off in about 4 years depending on the price of the home to start with. Meaning that $400 that was going towards the mortgage, has now become disposable income as well. And remember that was with each family member making the bare minimum.

                          They could have a nicer place to live, in a nicer area, and have nicer things (extra money). The quality of life would be SO much better.

                          I'm really trying to think of why families here in the states choose to go the opposite route, when the alternative has so much going for it...
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                          • ubernoob
                            ****
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 15522

                            #14
                            Because its America, and most people value their space and freedom. By space I dont mean room of the house. I love my family to death but I haven't lived at home for 7 years now, I would legitimately go mental if I moved back in with them even if it means struggling on my own for a bit.

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                            • Chrisksaint
                              $$$
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19127

                              #15
                              Re: Does It Make Much Sense To "Leave The Nest"?

                              I plan to live with my parents after I graduate for at the very least a year. If I can find a teaching job right away I want to be able to buy a new car right away and put some $$ away whether its for when I move out or paying off some of my loan. It's not my ideal plan in regards to chicks and all that but it only makes sense financially and when I move out I'll still be like 23 or 24
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