Violent Video Games

[roadman]

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Yep, I grew up watching Wyle E. Coyote biting the dust every time beep beep outsmarted him, which was all the time. Or watched Popeye eat spinach and watch him club Brutus to a pulp.

Our kids grew up watching Power Rangers and SpongeBob. I'll never forget a TV report in the Milwaukee area at a day care center. Some mom was infuriated that the day care center allowed the children to watch Power Rangers.

People have more time on their hands to worry about trivial things when they should be focusing on their own home life and bringing up their children the proper way, teaching them what is right or wrong.

[oneamongthefence]

I blame the economy. It used to be dad worked and mom stayed home. These days both parents work end they have no choice but to find babysitters or other means to watch their kids. More mothers are in the workforce and we can see the effects of that today. Parents simply have less time for kids. Is that all to blame? No but it certainly does help.

From my fingers to your eyes...

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I blame the economy. It used to be dad worked and mom stayed home. These days both parents work end they have no choice but to find babysitters or other means to watch their kids. More mothers are in the workforce and we can see the effects of that today. Parents simply have less time for kids. Is that all to blame? No but it certainly does help.

From my fingers to your eyes...

Hasn't it been like this for 30 years? Obviously more women are in the workforce now than then, but I don't think "lack of parenting" is an adequate diagnosis of the mental problem we love to sweep under the rug with everything else.

[oneamongthefence]

Hasn't it been like this for 30 years? Obviously more women are in the workforce now than then, but I don't think "lack of parenting" is an adequate diagnosis of the mental problem we love to sweep under the rug with everything else.

But good parenting recognizes when there's a problem and does something about it.

From my fingers to your eyes...

[JBH3]

Hasn't it been like this for 30 years? Obviously more women are in the workforce now than then, but I don't think "lack of parenting" is an adequate diagnosis of the mental problem we love to sweep under the rug with everything else.

Lack of parenting, poor nutrition, extremely busy lives, social distractions, more blame less responsibility, medicate, medicate, medicate, living above means, poor family planning, medicate, medicate, medicate, AD/HD, ADD, extreme liberals, extreme conservatives, extreme evangelicals, no balance, everyones opinion is correct, too opinionated, too eccenctric, passive/aggressive, govt dependency, too ideological, lack of sleep, more distractions, medicate, medicate, medicate.

So no... not JUST parenting...

[WildFan22]

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Not to derail the thread but this is an example of how you can't guard against crazy. Does anyone really think that the movie is the problem and not the mental makeup of the individual?

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/01/31/cannibal-cop-says-cameron-diaz-movie-made-him-what-is/?intcmp=features

[JBH3]

Not to derail the thread but this is an example of how you can't guard against crazy. Does anyone really think that the movie is the problem and not the mental makeup of the individual?

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...ntcmp=features

Complete BS. What a lying miscreant. I am 3 yrs older than him, I saw the movie too during my adolesenct years, and have never in my life had an impulse to kill/bound/whatever.

So had he seen Olive Oil bound and tied to a railroad track that would've inacted this same behavior? Or is it just Cameron Diaz's fault?

[ABR173rd]

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Hasn't it been like this for 30 years? Obviously more women are in the workforce now than then, but I don't think "lack of parenting" is an adequate diagnosis of the mental problem we love to sweep under the rug with everything else.

Really? You don't think lack of parenting is a core issue in regards to why kids do the things they do or grow up to do the things they do?

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Is that what I said?

[jmood88]

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Really? You don't think lack of parenting is a core issue in regards to why kids do the things they do or grow up to do the things they do?

A mom working instead of being at home all day does not equal a lack of parenting.

[kingkilla56]

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If a child cannot establish the difference between a video game, a movie, books, or any analogous influences from real life and its consequences, then that parent has the obligation to recognize that and take appropriate action.


Lack of parenting isnt the main (or rather only) problem, its a lack of proper parenting and or proper action taking place for these at risk children including mentally challenged children.

[CMH]

If a child cannot establish the difference between a video game, a movie, books, or any analogous influences from real life and its consequences, then that parent has the obligation to recognize that and take appropriate action.


Lack of parenting isnt the main (or rather only) problem, its a lack of proper parenting and or proper action taking place for these at risk children including mentally challenged children.

Right. Lets not forget that being a parent takes work. I think it's simple to pay attention and care but it takes dedication to do it.

But I say that because its obvious that's hard enough for people. I can tell when I walk outside. When you throw in mental illness, you just made a parent's life that much more difficult.

I think it's important the country focuses on mental illness because these parents need help. I know if I had a child with mental illness I wouldn't know the first thing what to do.

There are a lot of parents in the same position that also don't have the financial means to properly take care of mental illness. That's a whole new beast.

It's one thing to have children when you cannot support them (shame on those people) but another thing to not have the means to support a child with a mental disability.

Those parents are ignored and it's not even a focus.


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[kingkilla56]

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I agree, some parents are stuck because they have no idea what they should do, how they find out what to do, and/or dont have the means to even take the right action. I saw a Dr Phil episode (dont judge me bro) headlined "I cant stand my child" which I went into ready to hate every guest. But the actual issue these parents had (or at least one mother) was that she didnt know how to deal with her autistic little girl and had no idea how to get her help and just couldnt afford to get her the help she needed. Cases where the parent(s) are stuck in this way are very common.

[Phobia]

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I blame the economy. It used to be dad worked and mom stayed home. These days both parents work end they have no choice but to find babysitters or other means to watch their kids. More mothers are in the workforce and we can see the effects of that today. Parents simply have less time for kids. Is that all to blame? No but it certainly does help.

From my fingers to your eyes...

See I don't agree with that, haven't most of us here grew up in that enviroment where both our parents had to work to support the house hold. I would assume at least that is the majority rather than the minority now a days. 60 to 80% of of our population does not commit violent acts (I'm low balling here but I'm sure the number is higher more like 90s %). So that means more often people don't grow up to be violent killers. Most kids understand the social aspects of both parents having to supply for the family, most kids understand the social "damning" of committing such acts, and most kids understand right and wrong. This is not something that has to completely parented, because society in general is taking the parent role. Through school, mingling with peers, societal demands & whats expected.

I think the greater cause stems from certain people in general being biologically broken in fundamental mental ways. Unable to process pain and sorrow the way normal health individuals do, Unable to cope with extreme pressures or stressors, basically to be vague they have something not right with their mind.

Now I also believe society can be the triggering factor to bring this problems to the forefront. Bullying, rejection, self hatred, etc. I just don't think parenting is completely to blame. I think it plays a LARGE role, yet it can still be accomplished by two parents working.

The problem just goes a LOT deeper than games, movies, books, knives, guns, or any other out that is used to blame the reasoning on these peoples actions. It is not sane (proceeding from a sound mind) where these actions come from, so trying to peg a reason for it is just as insane.

I see crazy people all the time. I see homeless people just talking to themselves and carrying conversations on with imaginary friends. Yet if they never commit a violent act they are ignored and let to go about their business. How often have you seen this and just thought "wow he is out there!!!". What is stopping that "irrational" mind from grabbing anything that can be used as a weapon and commit a violent act??? Do you think video games made him crazy? Is the gun the the problem for why he shot someone? I say NO, it is the simple fact he is unstable and ANYTHING he chooses to do is in a irrational state of mind. Mental illness is far FAR greater to blame than parenting, video games, weapons, or whatever other scape goat they wanna throw in the media.

[roadman]

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Good post, Dereck, I agree.

I think we can all agree most of the baby boomers did have one parent at home. It's been a different story for generation X Y Z and millennium.

The thread started throwing parents under the bus and I feel like you do, you can't just arbitrarily blame one thing.

Heck, our kids started using AIM as a chatting device and I'm like, what the heck is this? All of a sudden, the acronym POS started becoming popular.(parent over shoulder) My wife and I would go downstairs just to make a presence and then return, but at some point, you need to trust your children too. Of course, teach them right vs wrong, but if you put the collar on too tight, teenagers rebel and start spending less time at home.

You might as well throw health care professionals into the mix too. Johnny can't function well enough in school, so, let's experiment and give him the popular drug choice at the time.

Life was simpler growing up as a boomer, it's more complex today. Our music was on 8 tracks, albums, cassettes, and 45's, not Ipad, pods or CD's.lol HD meant home drunk, not high definition. lol, jk on that note.