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  • kaletore11
    #44
    • Sep 2013
    • 2549

    #31
    Re: Ebola

    Originally posted by SPTO
    Couldn't they have taken those two Americans to a military base in Europe or something instead?
    No, they couldn't have done that.
    We don't need your sick people over here.

    And there's ebola in Europe as well.

    I couldn't care less about ebola, if it gets serious they'll just launch a cure for it and that's it.
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    • SuperBowlNachos
      All Star
      • Jul 2004
      • 10218

      #32
      Re: Ebola

      I was reading some comments on some radio conspiracy guy's Facebook page. My IQ lowed by about 15.

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      • daflyboys
        Banned
        • May 2003
        • 18238

        #33
        Re: Ebola

        Originally posted by kaletore11
        No, they couldn't have done that.
        We don't need your sick people over here.

        And there's ebola in Europe as well.

        I couldn't care less about ebola, if it gets serious they'll just launch a cure for it and that's it.
        No, but we'll take YOUR sick people here when the best care warrants it.

        And people say Americans are smug.

        This stuff going on in Dallas is a pretty disconcerting.

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        • kaletore11
          #44
          • Sep 2013
          • 2549

          #34
          Re: Ebola

          Well, you don't really "take" our people and cure them. They pay loads of money to be treated in the best hospitals, which are indeed in the USA.

          I'm not saying anything against the US, it's a great country (far better than mine) but I just don't like the idea that you should send your sick people to a foreign country so Americans don't get infected. It's equally as bad if a German or an Italian gets ebola.
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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #35
            Re: Ebola

            I blame media fear mongering. Roughly 300,000 to 500,000 people die from the flu every year. Sure those are the very young and the very old and Ebola can kill the hearty young in their 20s to 40s, but its hardly a major concern yet.

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            • gopher_guy
              The Kaptain
              • Jul 2011
              • 7389

              #36
              Re: Ebola

              Yeah, I just don't think ebola is anything for someone living in a developed country to worry about.
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              • daflyboys
                Banned
                • May 2003
                • 18238

                #37
                Re: Ebola

                Originally posted by kaletore11
                Well, you don't really "take" our people and cure them. They pay loads of money to be treated in the best hospitals, which are indeed in the USA.

                I'm not saying anything against the US, it's a great country (far better than mine) but I just don't like the idea that you should send your sick people to a foreign country so Americans don't get infected. It's equally as bad if a German or an Italian gets ebola.
                No, you're right. It should be isolated right at the source.

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                • daflyboys
                  Banned
                  • May 2003
                  • 18238

                  #38
                  Re: Ebola

                  Originally posted by Phobia
                  I blame media fear mongering. Roughly 300,000 to 500,000 people die from the flu every year. Sure those are the very young and the very old and Ebola can kill the hearty young in their 20s to 40s, but its hardly a major concern yet.
                  I would think your talking globally. As far as the U.S., the CDC website published this:

                  The number of seasonal influenza-associated (i.e., seasonal flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons are unpredictable and often fluctuate in length and severity. Therefore, a single estimate cannot be used to summarize influenza-associated deaths. Instead, a range of estimated deaths is a better way to represent the variability and unpredictability of flu. An August 27, 2010 MMWR report entitled “Thompson MG et al. Updated Estimates of Mortality Associated with Seasonal Influenza through the 2006-2007 Influenza Season. MMWR 2010; 59(33): 1057-1062.," provides updated estimates of the range of flu-associated deaths that occurred in the United States during the three decades prior to 2007. CDC estimates that from the 1976-1977 season to the 2006-2007 flu season, flu-associated deaths ranged from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people. Death certificate data and weekly influenza virus surveillance information was used to estimate how many flu-related deaths occurred among people whose underlying cause of death was listed as respiratory or circulatory disease on their death certificate.

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                  • Phobia
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                    • Jan 2008
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                    #39
                    Re: Ebola

                    Originally posted by daflyboys
                    I would think your talking globally. As far as the U.S., the CDC website published this:

                    The number of seasonal influenza-associated (i.e., seasonal flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons are unpredictable and often fluctuate in length and severity. Therefore, a single estimate cannot be used to summarize influenza-associated deaths. Instead, a range of estimated deaths is a better way to represent the variability and unpredictability of flu. An August 27, 2010 MMWR report entitled “Thompson MG et al. Updated Estimates of Mortality Associated with Seasonal Influenza through the 2006-2007 Influenza Season. MMWR 2010; 59(33): 1057-1062.," provides updated estimates of the range of flu-associated deaths that occurred in the United States during the three decades prior to 2007. CDC estimates that from the 1976-1977 season to the 2006-2007 flu season, flu-associated deaths ranged from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people. Death certificate data and weekly influenza virus surveillance information was used to estimate how many flu-related deaths occurred among people whose underlying cause of death was listed as respiratory or circulatory disease on their death certificate.
                    Yea, I pulled the global numbers since this Ebola outbreak is being viewed as a world issue.

                    Flu Deaths in the United States

                    The answer of course is different every year, but on average, there are about 36,000 flu deaths per year in the United States. This number includes people who die from the flu itself and those who develop complications from the flu - such as pneumonia - and then die from that illness. The CDC estimates that between 5 and 20 percent of the country's population gets the flu each year.

                    Flu Deaths Around the World

                    Worldwide there are between 250,000 and 500,000 flu deaths per year. In a typical flu season, between 3 and 5 million people will have what is considered a serious case of influenza.
                    Remember the scary H1N1 Swine Flu, well it killed 16,000 globally. Ebola has not reached that yet. Bottom line medicine is much better now than it use to be. Sure these viruses are deadly but when you are looking at it from strictly a number stand point. These "deadly" viruses are not doing the damage the media makes it out to be. Sure 16,000 is a LOT of people, but my little college football stadium of ULL fits 30 something thousand. Yet when you view it from a world level of 6 billion people. 1,900 people dead from Ebola is literally a grain of sand in a large picture of the beach.

                    Truthfully, all of us should be way more concerned with all the chemicals in our food, the cell phones we carry in our back pockets, and the numerous other things we deal with day in and day out that will give most likely plenty of us cancer at some point. That to me is way more a concern than Ebola.
                    Last edited by Phobia; 10-02-2014, 05:33 PM.

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                    • kaletore11
                      #44
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 2549

                      #40
                      Re: Ebola

                      Originally posted by daflyboys
                      No, you're right. It should be isolated right at the source.
                      Agree with this completely.
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                      Stiopic - Brock

                      Originally posted by areobee401
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                      • TheMatrix31
                        RF
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 52901

                        #41
                        Re: Ebola

                        No suits, huh? This seems intelligent.

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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #42
                          Re: Ebola

                          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                          No suits, huh? This seems intelligent.

                          https://twitter.com/wfaachannel8/sta...528704/photo/1
                          Yep...that's very S-M-R-T.

                          I'm still very apprehensive about all this and I am one to be a little over cautious but if there are more Ebola patients in North America I think that we should at least show some real concern here.

                          One positive is that in the developed world the level of care and expertise is a lot better.
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                          • TripleCrown9
                            Keep the Faith
                            • May 2010
                            • 23669

                            #43
                            Re: Ebola

                            Another positive is that unless you come in contact with bodily fluids of someone that has it, you won't get it.
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                            • TheMatrix31
                              RF
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 52901

                              #44
                              Re: Ebola

                              Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                              Another positive is that unless you come in contact with bodily fluids of someone that has it, you won't get it.
                              That could be many things. Sweat, droplets from sneezing or coughing, spit, etc.

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                              • BurghFan
                                #BurghProud
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 10042

                                #45
                                Re: Ebola

                                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                                No suits, huh? This seems intelligent.

                                https://twitter.com/wfaachannel8/sta...528704/photo/1
                                Yeah, they don't seem to being as diligent as they should be. Apparently 4 people living with the patient are being quarantined in his apartment and officials haven't bothered to remove any of the potentially contaminated linens or clothes.

                                Quarantined Woman in Dallas Frustrated

                                (CNN) —The sweat-stained sheets of Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States, still on her bed, a woman quarantined in a Dallas apartment said Thursday that she desperately wants her family's nightmare to end.

                                "We can't wait to be over with everything," the woman, who asked to be identified only by her first name, Louise, told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "We can't wait."

                                While Duncan is in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, his partner and three others have been stuck in a Dallas apartment since his diagnosis this week. Louise told CNN that authorities had her sign paperwork stating "if we step outside, they are going to take us ... to court (because) we'll have committed a crime."

                                Read more: http://www.wtae.com/national/ebola-p...#ixzz3F35eO02r
                                Meanwhile in Liberia ...

                                Report: American cameraman in Liberia has Ebola

                                An American cameraman working for NBC News in Liberia has tested positive for Ebola, the network reported Thursday.

                                He will return to the United States for treatment.

                                The freelance cameraman, 33, was hired Tuesday and came down with symptoms on Wednesday, NBC News reported. The network said it was withholding his name at his family's request.

                                "We are doing everything we can to get him the best care possible. He will be flown back to the United States for treatment at a medical center that is equipped to handle Ebola patients," NBC News President Deborah Turness reportedly said in a note to staff.

                                Read more: http://www.wtae.com/health/urgent-eb...#ixzz3F36flGyo
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