OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

[notsobabybombers]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

idunno man, that's a lot of assurance needs for only a week

does that tie into "mental health" somehow?

I definitely think it does. Confidence, self-esteem and self-worth definitely do.

To update the situation, she broke up with me yesterday. The world spins madly on.

[Jr.]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

It definitely ties into it. It's potentially a form of OCD.

This is the kind of stuff that really shouldn't be in a thread like this.

I would strongly suggest refraining from attempting to diagnose people when you don't have the credentials/training/etc to do so.

[PVarck31]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

This is the kind of stuff that really shouldn't be in a thread like this.

I would strongly suggest refraining from attempting to diagnose people when you don't have the credentials/training/etc to do so.

First of all, I didn't diagnose anything. The question was asked if the posters issues belonged in this thread. I simply said it could potentially be a form of OCD. I answered a question and didn't even remotely offer a diagnosis. My response wasn't even to the poster who made the post you're referring to.

I don't see that as a diagnosis in any way shape or form. And in a mental health thread I feel like it pertains to the discussion. ie Let's talk.

He was obviously looking for some type of response. There have been many threads here where people talk about being down, feeling depressed and it is suggested that they might have depressions issues and should see someone.

I don't see how this is any different than that.

I am a mental health advocate I fight everyday to end the stigma. And I would never diagnose someone on a message board. Or anywhere else for that matter. If it came off like that, it certainly wasn't my intention.

[Jr.]

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First of all, I didn't diagnose anything. The question was asked if the posters issues belonged in this thread. I simply said it could potentially be a form of OCD. I answered a question and didn't even remotely offer a diagnosis. My response wasn't even to the poster who made the post you're referring to.

I don't see that as a diagnosis in any way shape or form. And in a mental health thread I feel like it pertains to the discussion. ie Let's talk.

But it is a diagnosis. When you state that something seems like a form of a disorder, that's exactly what you're doing.. offering a suggested diagnosis. While it may seem innocent, you don't know the psychological effect of telling something that their behavior could potentially be a disorder.

Imagine telling someone that a mole they had removed could potentially be a form of cancer. Don't you think that would plant the idea that they might have cancer? It's the same idea with mental health. While you didn't address him directly, you were speaking about his post and offering a possible explanation for his behavior (which is what a diagnosis is).

He was obviously looking for some type of response. There have been many threads here where people talk about being down, feeling depressed and it is suggested that they might have depressions issues and should see someone.

I don't see how this is any different than that.

And I don't believe anyone here should be saying that another person is depressed from a post on a message board. You're right, it's not any different.

I am a mental health advocate I fight everyday to end the stigma. And I would never diagnose someone on a message board. Or anywhere else for that matter. If it came off like that, it certainly wasn't my intention.

That's really great that you advocate for mental health. Unfortunately, there aren't enough people that do. The issue is that your intent doesn't matter, only how the other person perceives it. If the poster sees your comment about potentially OCD tendencies in their behavior, who knows how they'll take it. Maybe it's valuable insight, but it could also cause some type of unforeseeable harm. This is why mental health professionals have liability insurance.

[PVarck31]

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But it is a diagnosis. When you state that something seems like a form of a disorder, that's exactly what you're doing.. offering a suggested diagnosis. While it may seem innocent, you don't know the psychological effect of telling something that their behavior could potentially be a disorder.

Imagine telling someone that a mole they had removed could potentially be a form of cancer. Don't you think that would plant the idea that they might have cancer? It's the same idea with mental health. While you didn't address him directly, you were speaking about his post and offering a possible explanation for his behavior (which is what a diagnosis is).



And I don't believe anyone here should be saying that another person is depressed from a post on a message board. You're right, it's not any different.



That's really great that you advocate for mental health. Unfortunately, there aren't enough people that do. The issue is that your intent doesn't matter, only how the other person perceives it. If the poster sees your comment about potentially OCD tendencies in their behavior, who knows how they'll take it. Maybe it's valuable insight, but it could also cause some type of unforeseeable harm. This is why mental health professionals have liability insurance.

I understand what you are saying. I guess certain people could take it a certain way.

If you see it as me making a diagnosis then that's fine, and maybe I should have chosen my words differently.

I just think you're making what I said out to be more of an issue that it was.

I did not address the poster in question and did not specifically say to him "You have OCD." To me, that is making a diagnosis.

All I did was answer the question of whether or not that topic should be discussed here. I honestly thought I was helping more that potentially hurting anyone.

But I guess it's better to err on the side of caution when talking about mental disorders so there is no confusion on a specific diagnosis that could be perceived as labeling someone with it.

In the future I will make sure to choose my words more carefully.

And I really hope I didn't offend the poster in question. If I did then I am truly sorry.

I don't really have anything else to say here so let's let the thread get back on track.

JR, if you want to talk more about it feel free to PM me.

[notsobabybombers]

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I understand what you are saying. I guess certain people could take it a certain way.

If you see it as me making a diagnosis then that's fine, and maybe I should have chosen my words differently.

I just think you're making what I said out to be more of an issue that it was.

I did not address the poster in question and did not specifically say to him "You have OCD." To me, that is making a diagnosis.

All I did was answer the question of whether or not that topic should be discussed here. I honestly thought I was helping more that potentially hurting anyone.

But I guess it's better to err on the side of caution when talking about mental disorders so there is no confusion on a specific diagnosis that could be perceived as labeling someone with it.

In the future I will make sure to choose my words more carefully.

And I really hope I didn't offend the poster in question. If I did then I am truly sorry.

I don't really have anything else to say here so let's let the thread get back on track.

JR, if you want to talk more about it feel free to PM me.

You didn't offend me at all.

[ODogg]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

Jr: he didn't diagnose him. He just said that it was an appropriate place to discuss those issues.

This thread is about mental health, if talking about it bothers you then maybe you should abstain from reading it. J/s


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[Jr.]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

Jr: he didn't diagnose him. He just said that it was an appropriate place to discuss those issues.

This thread is about mental health, if talking about it bothers you then maybe you should abstain from reading it. J/s


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We've moved on. Thanks for your input, though. It's been noted.

[l3ulvl]

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Something that's been bugging me, and this is more of a vent post than a "what should I do" post...

I started seeing a psychiatrist a couple years ago, she immediately told me she saw signs of autism in me, something I never considered, and she believed I had asperger syndrome.

The next session we had, she doubled down on the asperger idea, even encouraged me to google jobs for people with aspergers. She never outright diagnosed me.

It felt like she was building toward that conclusion, but before we could have another session she left the practice. I was redirected to another psychiatrist who gave zero ****s about hearing me and just wanted to throw med after med at me.

Apparently the previous psychiatrist was getting heat for spending TOO MUCH time with her patients/clients and the waiting room was building up and this all played into her leaving abruptly. This new guy had a thick indian accent and I'm not trying to disparage anyone but I have such a hard time understanding thick accents, and this guy was more concerned with being the opposite of the other psychiatrist and basically wanted everyone in and out within 5 minutes.

The whole asperger/autism got lost and forgotten, the meds for 18 months didn't work no matter how many times I changed to something new. It's so frustrating when you get the side effects of meds and none of the benefits. This guy was just like "didn't work? try these, bye" with hardly any interaction, which was hard for me to decipher anyway.

Sometime last November I had enough, I stopped meds and got a ween down prescription and have been off them all ever since.

The more I learn about asperger syndrome the more I think the original psychiatrist was on to something, but since she never gave me an official diagnosis I feel stuck, and I don't want to go back to psychiatrist #2 just to have him dismiss me and throw more meds at me.

Like I said, I just wanted to vent for a minute, I still see a therapist on the regular and wrote it down in my notes to talk to her about, I'm kinda hoping she can use her connections in the psch services to set me up with a different psychiatrist if/when I decide to give it another shot

[Jr.]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

Just curious, but is there a particular reason you think you need to see a psychiatrist?

[Hooe]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

It kinda sounds like your first psychiatrist actually wanted to be an LCSW and not a psychiatrist. The experience you describe with your second psychiatrist sounds very much like my experience with every psychiatrist with whom I've ever booked an appointment; they prescribe you medication, ask you how your medications are affecting you over the prognosis of your illness, and make adjustments to prescriptions and dosages as necessary. With the exception of first visits, my appointments with my psychiatrists over the years have never really lasted over 15 minutes, they are very quick.

Be hesitant to self-diagnose yourself with anything. I'm sure I could go onto WebMD right now and give myself super-cancer-AIDs because my elbow hurts and I'm looking for something to be incredibly wrong. Talk to a therapist / LCSW - not a psychiatrist first, an actual talk therapist - about what's going on in your head - without trying to steer the diagnosis towards any particular destination - and then have the therapist recommend you some treatment options, some of which may require a prescription from a psychiatrist. If your therapist recommends medication, you can go to that psychiatrist armed with the knowledge gained from your sessions with the therapist. Also, and this is important - DON'T STOP TAKING YOUR PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS WITHOUT TALKING TO YOUR DOCTORS FIRST.

Finally, you should know that the most common medications prescribed to inhibit the symptoms of Asperger's are the same as those prescribed for depression or anxiety; SSRIs, anti-psychotics, or stimulants, depending on the specific case. Per WebMD, there are no medications which treat Asperger's itself, or any disorder on the autism spectrum for that matter. To that end, if you're already taking something like Celexa / Citalopram, Lexapro / Escitalopram, Wellbutrin / Bupropion, or Seroquel / Quetiapine, chances are your psychiatrist has already prescribed you an appropriate medication to tackle the anxiety or depression symptoms of Asperger's.

[Jr.]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

Great post. That's kind of what I was getting at with my question about seeing a psychiatrist in particular. Psychiatrists are trained as MDs, so they tend to lean much more toward pharmaceutical interventions, despite having training in therapeutic techniques as well.

[l3ulvl]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

This has not gone the way I thought this thread would go

[PVarck31]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/kevin-love-everyone-is-going-through-something/

Kevin Love opens up. I feel like this is an important read.

[notsobabybombers]

Re: OS Lets Talk (Mental Health Thread)

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/ke...ugh-something/

Kevin Love opens up. I feel like this is an important read.

I like seeing pieces like this. DeMar Derozan was featured in a similar piece recently.