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  • onlybygrace
    MVP
    • Jan 2009
    • 3784

    #1

    Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

    Hey... this seemed as good a place as any to post this with the most anonymity.

    I need advice.

    The situation:

    When I met my wife of 10 years (with whom I've had 5 kids with) in 2006 she had a two month old baby boy. His dad was in prison over 1000 miles away as she moved away after he was put in there. She loved him but it seemed obvious that their lives were taking different courses.

    We later married and he eventually signed over his rights and I adopted his son so he could have my last name and not feel outta place in such a large family. His dad only saw him once when he was still just a baby. So he, now 11 years old, still has no idea that I'm not his biological father.

    My wife and I have had many serious conversations about when he would be old enough and mature enough to tell him about his dad but never felt like the time was 'right'.

    Well... everything just changed.

    While perusing Facebook last night my wife found out my son's biological father was murdered in January after being shot while being mugged in Philadelphia. They left him there and he died on the table at the hospital...the day before my birthday.

    Now what!?!?! Further research shows his dad had been in prison once again for burglary. He signed his rights over and his mother and family haven't had interest in his son for many years.

    Does he even need to know? I mean... hey I adopted you and btw... your dad is dead and was a crook just seems like a really terrible conversation with no possibility of anything good coming from it.

    I'm so confused. Thoughts?

    Regardless of everything...i feel terrible for my son. It's just awful whether his dad was a good person or not. My wife was really upset by this obviously. I even almost cried for a second when in private considering his last moments here. I'm proud of how I handled my wife and her grief. I could tell she was extremely grateful for my understanding of her feelings...i don't think she's ever loved me more. We always have had a good relationship but now it's like... different...i think my respect for her and true remorse for his unfortunate death showed her something she maybe wasn't sure about what to expect.

    Yeah...i dunno. Hate that he had to go out the way he did. It's heartbreaking. Life sucks sometimes.
    Last edited by onlybygrace; 05-04-2017, 02:13 AM.
  • PVarck31
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    • Jan 2003
    • 16869

    #2
    Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

    You're his father, period. My step-daughter's father is out of the picture and I've raised her since she was 8. So I consider her my daughter.

    You don't have to be the biological part to be a father.

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    • onlybygrace
      MVP
      • Jan 2009
      • 3784

      #3
      Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

      Totally agree. Guess that means I should keep it simple and not bother him with this stuff at any point.

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      • Scott812313
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        • Jun 2009
        • 1877

        #4
        Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

        The only thing I would suggest is to try to find out if there is any health concerns from his biological father's side of the family. Other than that, he's better off not knowing, IMO.
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        • Phobia
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          • Jan 2008
          • 11623

          #5
          Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

          Considering he is 11, I don't see any "good time" to explain this. I won't pretend to know the right way of handling it. Part of me thinks telling him once he is an adult would be best, but part of me also thinks never telling him is the best way.

          Looking at both sides pros/cons, I'd favor not saying anything.

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          • jeremym480
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            • Oct 2008
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            #6
            Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

            Unless you think there's some off-chance that someone from his biological family will reach out to him one day on social media or something like that, then I'd lean towards not telling him. However, I can see where if something like that did happen one day, then I would rather him hear it from me than finding out from a stranger. It's a tough choice and I'm not sure if there is a right or wrong way to handle it...

            One question I do have is what does is birth certificate include his biological father? I mean, an 11-year-old isn't really concerned with a birth certificate, but once he gets to be an adult and needs a job or a passport, then you wouldn't want him finding out that way either.
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            • onlybygrace
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              • Jan 2009
              • 3784

              #7
              Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

              Good question. I'll have to look into that.

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              • woodjer
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 1196

                #8
                Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

                I'll echo the comment on health issues. At some point, it may be in his best interest health-wise to know. If you can get any information on that, it could help shape your decision. Even if the birth certificate doesn't list his bio-dad, there could be important genetic information there.

                In terms of other parts of the discussion, I don't see why it would be necessary to tell him about the criminal background unless/until your son asks more questions. I've had friends (and a cousin) that wanted to track down that bio-parent but others that choose not to. If you have that talk (and I do think 11 is a little too young), you could tell him either that his mom left or his dad died. Both are true without getting into lots of details. If he starts asking more questions, you can carefully start down the more detailed explanation.

                All of that said, I'm not a licensed counselor or anything. If you have serious concerns about if/when to talk to him, I'd suggest reaching out to a professional for more guidance. Plenty of people here mean well in our thoughts but I'm sure few of us are qualified to do so professionally.
                Last edited by woodjer; 05-04-2017, 02:48 PM.
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                • onlybygrace
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                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3784

                  #9
                  Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

                  Thanks for all the advice guys. I'm sure we'll make the right choice and just play it by ear. When the time comes... it'll be obvious.

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                  • dickey1331
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                    • Sep 2009
                    • 14285

                    #10
                    Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

                    For me I think you have to tell him eventually. Maybe 11 is too young but maybe once he's in high school.


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                    • seasprite
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                      • Jul 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

                      As an adopted child myself, I would plead with you to tell him now. You are all he has ever known as a father and regardless of whether or not you biologically are, makes no difference. If you don't tell him, it's going to come back one day.... It just will. If that happens, you are going to upset him more that you never told him.

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                      • DieHardYankee26
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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 10178

                        #12
                        Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

                        My dad came into my life when I was 4, so I've both always known he wasn't always there but also never really known a life without him. If I didn't know, I would want to just because to not know something like that about myself would just seem odd. But that's the kid in me, I can't imagine being on the other side. Because of the circumstances surrounding it, I would probably wait until he was older and could better understand. Good luck man.
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                        • Jr.
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #13
                          Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

                          If you were in his shoes, wouldn't you want to know at some point? Maybe he won't care, maybe he will. Unless all of your kids take strongly after your wife, there's a pretty good chance that he'll start realizing he's different physically from the rest of the family and maybe start suspecting something.

                          I think you tell him so you can control how he knows. It would suck for him to find out another way and realize that you've been keeping this from him for his whole life.
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                          • p_rushing
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                            • Feb 2004
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                            #14
                            Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

                            Originally posted by seasprite
                            As an adopted child myself, I would plead with you to tell him now. You are all he has ever known as a father and regardless of whether or not you biologically are, makes no difference. If you don't tell him, it's going to come back one day.... It just will. If that happens, you are going to upset him more that you never told him.

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                            Yep, he could view it as you lying to him and then you could lose everything you have put in with something like this.

                            It's rough both ways, but at least by telling him you control the situation and don't have it happen randomly. There may be some issues immediately, but if he is emotionally able to deal with it, he should be fine.

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                            • GAMEC0CK2002
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 10384

                              #15
                              Re: Need advice/perspective on a crazy situation...

                              I can't add any more advice to what has already been said. Just wishing you good luck in whatever you decide to do in a very complicated situation.

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