Does the CPU cheat?

[BlingBling19]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

I was starting to wonder if maybe it was something I was doing in games but it appears it is clearly the CPU that does get an advantage. I have not played that many matches maybe 8 I would guess.

7 of the 8 have been one goal games. The problem is every game is like 5-4 or 6-5 and I had only one game where it was 1-0. I am not great at the game but it seemed like every time I score the CPU comes right back and scores.

Now I had more than 1 goal leads in a bunch of the games but sure enough the CPU magically finds it's way to comeback while my CPU teammates just stand there and let guys get open headers and wide open shots.

I am playing on WC with sliders that I found on here but I am wondering if there is a way to get my CPU teammates to play better?

[ChiTownKid]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

I don't think it cheats, but I do think it doesn't like to be scored on.

I play on Pro, as Everton in the EPL. What I've come to notice, after about 50 games, is that, once I score on the cpu, they're gonna come, and come hard.

So, after a goal, assuming I have time, I'll go pure defense on the slider, and be as smart as I can until the new pressure subsides. It usually works.

I've also noticed that I can sleep on no team. If I get greedy, and start sending my backs on runs, even against the weaker squads (and especially against the top-tier ones) it's only a matter of time before I pay for it. But if I resist the temptatation to bring too many defenders up, I can contain the ai attack pretty well.

Personally, I love this game. I've been a sports gamer for over 20 years, and I can confidently say FIFA 14 for PS4 is the best sports game I've ever played. It's not even close.

[BlingBling19]

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Yea FIFA 14 is a great game. It's just kinda silly that on WC I can beat Chelsea 1-0 and then the next game give up 6 goals to Crystal Palace in like 55 mins or so.

I mean I am all for each game being unique but giving up 6 goals is just kinda absurd I think when I was able to hold Chelsea scoreless.

I realize that maybe after I score I should play more defensive and see if that helps any.

[ChiTownKid]

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You guys that play on WC and up must have mad skills. I just had a game on default pro, me Everton vs cpu Man City, and I had my friggin hands FULL. I won 2-1, but possession was damn tight at 52-48, and I was outshot 8-4. In fact, the cpu could have sent it to a draw in the final minutes with a beautifully set-up shot if not for a lucky bounce off another player.

I wouldn't have stood a chance on a higher difficulty. I must just suck and not know it.

[bad_philanthropy]

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Yea FIFA 14 is a great game. It's just kinda silly that on WC I can beat Chelsea 1-0 and then the next game give up 6 goals to Crystal Palace in like 55 mins or so.

I mean I am all for each game being unique but giving up 6 goals is just kinda absurd I think when I was able to hold Chelsea scoreless.

I realize that maybe after I score I should play more defensive and see if that helps any.

This. One thing that the mechanism of AI advantage and disadvantage just gets plain wrong is that there is no sense of the gulf in talent between Chelesea and Palace.

Palace may indeed eke out a draw against a top club, or even a win in real life, but when was the last time you saw them do it by dominating all over the pitch, outrunning guys like Hazard, our-dribbling Mata, etc...

Usually it is about a couple lucky breaks and defending for dear life.

I hate how often lesser teams in CM are just way better than you if you are a big club.

[ChiTownKid]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

Well this must be a trapping of WC, cuz I simply do not see this on Pro.

When I play a lower-tier team, I dominate them. If I get sloppy, I might pay for it, but I never get pushed around by the likes of Crystal Palace or Aston Villa.

[doubledeuceR6]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

This. One thing that the mechanism of AI advantage and disadvantage just gets plain wrong is that there is no sense of the gulf in talent between Chelesea and Palace.

Palace may indeed eke out a draw against a top club, or even a win in real life, but when was the last time you saw them do it by dominating all over the pitch, outrunning guys like Hazard, our-dribbling Mata, etc...

Usually it is about a couple lucky breaks and defending for dear life.

I hate how often lesser teams in CM are just way better than you if you are a big club.

This has been my experience as well. First game I played with Crystal Palace after being let go by the Spurs I had 0-0 draw against Man City, then proceeded to beat Man Utd. 1-0 then got spanked by Wigan Ath. 2-0 and could do absolutely nothing in that game. I don't know a ton about soccer/football but I know enough that Man City and UTD should been the ones dominating me.

I'm seeing less of this now as I get better at the game, but know exactly what you're talking about.

[falcons2003]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

One of the most frustrating things for me is the cpu's uncanny ability to cross the ball with precision from the corners in front of the goal without the defender getting any piece of it despite having good position.

On the flip side, it's extremely difficult to cross the ball on the cpu once your starting to set up offense. CPU always seems to get a piece of it, or knows where it's going. Even on through balls.

The funny thing is the successful through balls and crosses that do work for a goal for me, the majority of them probably shouldn't have worked..lol.

[Smirkin Dirk]

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One of the most frustrating things for me is the cpu's uncanny ability to cross the ball with precision from the corners in front of the goal without the defender getting any piece of it despite having good position.

On the flip side, it's extremely difficult to cross the ball on the cpu once your starting to set up offense. CPU always seems to get a piece of it, or knows where it's going. Even on through balls.

You're spot on. I find it hard to win any contested headers. Im using the left stick to get my guy in good position, timing it ok but still dont get the results. Carroll (I thought he played for Arsenal, must have gone to Villa) was beasting me all night.

After reading most of the replies in this thread it has allowed me to enjoy the game more. I ignored it playing last night. I was about to score the winner with Torres, inexplicably he got a bad touch and the ball rebounded straight to a defender. I chuckled, and ignored it.

[falcons2003]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

Ya I'm still really enjoying the game though. It just plays so damn smooth.

I guess the CPU's spot on passing and crossing make up for some of the poor choices the CPU does make (on pro at least). There are some opportunities the CPU passes up that would make great shots on goal. CPU also misses it's fair share as well. Guess it's all relative and it evens out.

I guess the randomness on offense with passing, crossing, through balls being tough makes the game challenging and scores realistic. (on pro for me, I'm still new to the game).

[ChiTownKid]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

If you guys find you're being railed by a cpu team, and are unable to shut down their attack, try shifting the attitude slider (or whatever it's called) to Ultra Defensive. Don't be afraid to bring strikers and mids back to play D and harass the ball carrier. Do this until the pressure subsides. See if it helps.

[ChiTownKid]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

And to that I will add: it is perfectly possible to score while Ultra Defensive. Your guys will still move up the pitch when you attack. It might take a little longer, but it'll happen. But they will drop back to defend better. The only real hamstring is you'll have fewer guys waiting in the penalty area when you have a corner.

Just be careful how far you bring up your backs. Getting too aggressive with them is what gets you burned.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

If you guys find you're being railed by a cpu team, and are unable to shut down their attack, try shifting the attitude slider (or whatever it's called) to Ultra Defensive. Don't be afraid to bring strikers and mids back to play D and harass the ball carrier. Do this until the pressure subsides. See if it helps.

Good advice, I tried this before and it does help.

[orion523]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

Well this must be a trapping of WC, cuz I simply do not see this on Pro.

When I play a lower-tier team, I dominate them. If I get sloppy, I might pay for it, but I never get pushed around by the likes of Crystal Palace or Aston Villa.

No it's not, the weaker teams are absolutely weaker on the higher difficulties(I play on World Class/Legendary) What I find though is that at times I kind of slack off against the lower rated clubs, don't concentrate as much, get sloppy. Or I get ahead by 2 or 3 goals and then just grind out the game. It's this second part which is now costing me late on in the season, because with just 4 games left in my Roma season I'm tied with Napoli for 3rd with 70 points, but they have a much better GD, meaning I have to somehow get ahead of them if I want CL football, and with Milan and Juve on my fixture list, I may be forced to settle for Europa league.
As for the problems a lot of you have been encountering, again I don't see it. Maybe it's a play style thing, or skill, or just perception, but overall I find the CPU to play hard but fair. Sure they're very good at using angles, and drawing you out of position(then exploiting the space you vacate), they don't abuse the sprint button, or dive in for bad tackles, again leaving you vulnerable, and there's no thought to switching players but that's not "cheating" in my book.

[half-fast]

Re: Does the CPU cheat?

Nah the computer doesn't cheat, more often than not the situations you describe are caused by human error, poor positioning, poor decision making, abuse of the sprint button, things like that. It sounds to me like you're just frustrated. I'm nearing the end of my first full season with the NG version of the game using Roma and I'm in 3rd position with a record of 19W 8D 4L
Playing strictly on world class and legendary, if the CPU did the things you've mentioned above, I'd have way more losses than 4

I respectfully disagree with you. The AI cheats a lot. Mind you, there is a lot less of it in the NG version than the PG version, because the AI is smarter all around. Without sliders, this game cheats, period. To be more accurate, I believe the game penalizes you for mistakes, in a non-realistic fashion, that definitely end up in a goal one way or another.

The fact you dont experience these things may be because youre so good at the game, it has no way to penalize you.