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  • Hutton
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 832

    #1

    Match Refereeing idea

    So watching the world cup matches the last few days & playing the WC mode in FIFA14 landed on this idea.

    It seems that the types of refs (strict, lenient, patient etc) and their behavior in calling a match are having a huge impact on the world cup (just see the Brazil match & Mex Cameroon matches). This element is completely lacking in FIFA, and has been for as long as I remember, evidence being how strong tackles exist that never get called, and the amount (or lack there of) of Free Kicks is astonishing when you play FIFA.

    My idea centers around the ability to create a referee and allow the user to actually ref a CPU vs CPU match and call it as they see fit. This would build up a "profile" of sorts for the ref you design which could be applied in a match that you play.

    For instance, you as the ref could choose to let every offside call be ignored, and this behavior would be applied as part of this refs profile. Or you could be super strict on calling fouls near the box and dishing out red cards. To build on this concept you would be able to referee multiple matches, which would allow you to create a profile with lots of inconsistency/variability or a ref who calls it the same every time.

    Then, assuming EA brings back the Creation Centre, you could upload your ref profile & people could download it for use in their local matches. This was just an idea I was thinking about that could help dramatically increase the shoddy refereeing logic present in FIFA. Other games have done this sort of thing with team style/tactic behavior, so I assume its possible from a design/logic standpoint.

    This same concept could be easily applied to team tactics/philosophies. A user could take control of Barca & just pass pass pass pass pass it about (kind of like what the CPU does in FIFA no matter what team you play against).....or you could play as Southampton & look for a shot on any open look at goal.

    Cheers.
  • BL8001
    MVP
    • Jul 2010
    • 1884

    #2
    Re: Match Refereeing idea

    Oh this is a cool idea. So like racing your ghost lap in racing games...

    So I could properly play a match like nottingham forest would, targeting the right players and attacking in the same way they do and "record" it. Then share it. This would be amazing.

    Wow and being a ref in matches would be wild.

    Just watching the USA Ghana match and that ref was a bozo. Any fair challenge if a player fell down, even if he himself was the reason for falling down, the free kick was granted to the player on the ground. The quality or refereeing has been all over the place in ths WC. I can see why this idea came to you.
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    • Hutton
      Banned
      • Aug 2008
      • 832

      #3
      Re: Match Refereeing idea

      Yes, that Ghana USA ref was a total bozo. Jermaine Jones should consider himself lucky for not being carded for his kick to the head of the Ghananian player after he was tackled. Dempsey gets his nose broken by a leg to the face yet no card is given? It's all over the place, totally inconsistent refereeing.

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      • BL8001
        MVP
        • Jul 2010
        • 1884

        #4
        Re: Match Refereeing idea

        Don't forget the muntari yellow card for the "foul" on Dempsey

        Super slow motion espn replay showed muntari ran towards the ball and got it and then Dempsey jumped into him.

        Dempsey did fall down though.

        Poor Dempsey. No wait, poor muntari.

        Photo shows muntari touching it away and Dempsey had taken a weird angle so he just became a jelly donut.
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        • Qb
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 8797

          #5
          Re: Match Refereeing idea

          Custom referee personalities/tendencies would be a cool addition, although I think asking people to create them by playing as the ref is a bit ambitious. Assuming it was done via a more conventional slider method, what would we use as categories?

          Foul Strictness (open play)
          Penalty Frequency
          Booking Frequency
          Sending Off Frequency
          Play Advantage/Stop Play Tendency

          What else you got?

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          • Hutton
            Banned
            • Aug 2008
            • 832

            #6
            Re: Match Refereeing idea

            Originally posted by Qb
            Custom referee personalities/tendencies would be a cool addition, although I think asking people to create them by playing as the ref is a bit ambitious. Assuming it was done via a more conventional slider method, what would we use as categories?

            Foul Strictness (open play)
            Penalty Frequency
            Booking Frequency
            Sending Off Frequency
            Play Advantage/Stop Play Tendency

            What else you got?
            I don't know man, Cmew takes it upon himself to create & upload many many many teams to creation centre, I'd think the community would be more than willing to participate in creating proper referees.

            Sliders for ref would also work, this is something that should already exist.

            Foul Strictness (open play)
            Penalty Frequency
            Booking Frequency
            Sending Off Frequency
            Play Advantage/Stop Play Tendency
            lineman offside strictness/leniency
            Consistency
            Missed/Blown/"bad" decision Frequency

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            • bluesfan13
              Rookie
              • Sep 2010
              • 81

              #7
              Re: Match Refereeing idea

              I think that having custom refs would work particularly well with the players now having "memories" according to EA. Having a ref that you know has already blown a call blow another one? It'd be great to see the players all over him for it.
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              • Qb
                All Star
                • Mar 2003
                • 8797

                #8
                Re: Match Refereeing idea

                Originally posted by Hutton
                I don't know man, Cmew takes it upon himself to create & upload many many many teams to creation centre, I'd think the community would be more than willing to participate in creating proper referees.
                My wording wasn't the clearest, but what I felt was "ambitious" was having what amounts to Be A Ref mode that tracked the users performance to create profiles for sharing. I have no doubt users would create referees for sharing if given the ability, but I think it'd have to be more like traditional character creation to have any chance of being implemented. What you originally described, while a cool concept, just doesn't strike me as something to which EA would devote resources.

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                • Zac
                  World-Class Diver
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4269

                  #9
                  Re: Match Refereeing idea

                  I would actually just play this mode to play the mode. I would play an entire season as a ref. In any sports game actually. This is a brilliant idea. And I hope someone runs with it and adds it. Soccer, football, basketball, what ever. I want this mode in all sports games now!

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