FIFA 16 Demo Available Now For Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, PC

[nunogomes]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

Is it me or does the CPU still not try scoring off the long ball?

It´s not you Peji, it´s a legacy problem that still isn´t solved 4 years running...

[Peji911]

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It´s not you Peji, it´s a legacy problem that still isn´t solved 4 years running...

PES for me again this year I guess. I want to want to enjoy FIFA but I need players to shoot from afar, rather than walking it in.

But i want the licenses dammit!

[Matt10]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

Here's the video from my Twitch stream embedded. Where is the mindless passing, the ping pong, the CPU not shooting from distance, the efforts from long balls?

All of that happens. Length is going to play a bigger role in 16 than it did in 15. Increasing it seems to have helped a bit, but as you can tell in the video, I'm still experimenting. Will it matter when the full version comes out? Who knows - but I like what I'm seeing, and I'll remain optimistic for the full version regardless.

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[nunogomes]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

PES for me again this year I guess. I want to want to enjoy FIFA but I need players to shoot from afar, rather than walking it in.
But i want the licenses dammit!

PES has problems too Peji, but the lack of purpose on offense is not one of them like in FIFA.

Here's the video from my Twitch stream embedded. Where is the mindless passing, the ping pong, the CPU not shooting from distance, the efforts from long balls?

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Just saw your first game Dortmund (you) vs City (CPU), my thoughts:

- CPU had 5 shots on goal the whole game and 7 total, don´t be fooled by the end game stats, they count ALL shots, even the ones that don´t reach the goal.
- 4 of the shots on goal, includind the goal, where rebound shots. Now, this IS a situation where CPU does shoot (like in previous years). Rebounds in front of the goal, they will shoot it, also in situations of corners, if you clear the ball with a header to the front of the box, a CPU player will shoot. However, in regular plays, with no rebounds, they tend to not shoot. In many ocasions, where a CPU player is near the box and can shoot they just go to the sides and start passing around until they loose possession (that happened in your game a lot).
- CPU has no purpose on offense. It´s almost like they don´t want to score or create chances. There wasn´t a single 1-2 near the box (a common play in football to break down defences) to get a man open to shoot.
- CPU does defend well, and the game in general is good, but the CPU on offense has the same problem of last year, no purpose, can´t build good plays to score, doesn´t shoot from distance (except rebound or first time shots).

EDIT: also, 91% pass accuracy from CPU Man. City... even with the slider edits.

[JayD]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available Now For Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, PC

I was watching someone streaming career mode and I heard him say that the build up is too slow and overall the game plays too slow. He then added that playing FUT the game is a bit faster which is the way he likes it. I really hope EA does not listen to complaints from FUT players about the game being slower and build ups taking too long which in return will have them patch and ruin FIFA again.

[Gnemi]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available Now For Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, PC

Something is very odd about defending, that's for sure. It's still a lot of ball watching and ping-ponging from the CPU.

Shooting is the most notable improvement in the game. Other than that, I am not nearly as excited as everybody else. They got rid of precision dribbling, too, so now I just feel like I'll get the ball nicked from my feet the same way I did in FIFA 15.

How does one...dribble? I don't need to do anything other than keep the ball at my feet when the CPU becomes magnetically attracted to me. E.g. Messi shouldn't have the ball ripped from him easily by crap defenders. I used precision dribbling in years past and refuse to learn Street Fighter dribbling combos.

[RoyceDa59]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available Now For Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, PC

Something is very odd about defending, that's for sure. It's still a lot of ball watching and ping-ponging from the CPU.

Shooting is the most notable improvement in the game. Other than that, I am not nearly as excited as everybody else. They got rid of precision dribbling, too, so now I just feel like I'll get the ball nicked from my feet the same way I did in FIFA 15.

How does one...dribble? I don't need to do anything other than keep the ball at my feet when the CPU becomes magnetically attracted to me. E.g. Messi shouldn't have the ball ripped from him easily by crap defenders. I used precision dribbling in years past and refuse to learn Street Fighter dribbling combos.

They have the no touch dribbling (hate this term) that you have to use.

[Zac]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available Now For Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, PC

Something is very odd about defending, that's for sure. It's still a lot of ball watching and ping-ponging from the CPU.

Shooting is the most notable improvement in the game. Other than that, I am not nearly as excited as everybody else. They got rid of precision dribbling, too, so now I just feel like I'll get the ball nicked from my feet the same way I did in FIFA 15.

How does one...dribble? I don't need to do anything other than keep the ball at my feet when the CPU becomes magnetically attracted to me. E.g. Messi shouldn't have the ball ripped from him easily by crap defenders. I used precision dribbling in years past and refuse to learn Street Fighter dribbling combos.

##No they just changed the button. Hold down L1/LB. ##

Actually no, I just loaded it up and checked, it L1/LB is no touch. LT is still precision dribbling. I just did it in the demo. Unless you guys are talking about something else entirely.

[Matt10]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

PES has problems too Peji, but the lack of purpose on offense is not one of them like in FIFA.



Just saw your first game Dortmund (you) vs City (CPU), my thoughts:

- CPU had 5 shots on goal the whole game and 7 total, don´t be fooled by the end game stats, they count ALL shots, even the ones that don´t reach the goal.
- 4 of the shots on goal, includind the goal, where rebound shots. Now, this IS a situation where CPU does shoot (like in previous years). Rebounds in front of the goal, they will shoot it, also in situations of corners, if you clear the ball with a header to the front of the box, a CPU player will shoot. However, in regular plays, with no rebounds, they tend to not shoot. In many ocasions, where a CPU player is near the box and can shoot they just go to the sides and start passing around until they loose possession (that happened in your game a lot).
- CPU has no purpose on offense. It´s almost like they don´t want to score or create chances. There wasn´t a single 1-2 near the box (a common play in football to break down defences) to get a man open to shoot.
- CPU does defend well, and the game in general is good, but the CPU on offense has the same problem of last year, no purpose, can´t build good plays to score, doesn´t shoot from distance (except rebound or first time shots).

EDIT: also, 91% pass accuracy from CPU Man. City... even with the slider edits.

Run frequency at 5/3 probably didn't help the CPU's offense. I wanted to test to see how much post up on the defense and midfields (a common football/soccer move as well, that was missing in FIFA 15) from different line settings, pressure, etc. Seemed to have worked nicely, especially in the chelsea-dortmund match (match #3 on the video).

At the end of the day, us slider guys are excited for the demo, and crossing our fingers for the full version. The main complaints can be remedied, especially the ones from FIFA 15. It's nice to think that EA has listened to what we were screaming for, and a lot of those check-marks are currently crossed off for the demo - we'll see if the eraser needs to get pulled out though in the final release.

[nunogomes]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

Run frequency at 5/3 probably didn't help the CPU's offense. I wanted to test to see how much post up on the defense and midfields (a common football/soccer move as well, that was missing in FIFA 15) from different line settings, pressure, etc. Seemed to have worked nicely, especially in the chelsea-dortmund match (match #3 on the video).

At the end of the day, us slider guys are excited for the demo, and crossing our fingers for the full version. The main complaints can be remedied, especially the ones from FIFA 15. It's nice to think that EA has listened to what we were screaming for, and a lot of those check-marks are currently crossed off for the demo - we'll see if the eraser needs to get pulled out though in the final release.

Yes, most main complaints are gone, and it´s definitely a better game. But the lack of purpose and shooting by the CPU still shows a lot of it´s ugly head. Maybe on the final version it will be different, maybe sliders CAN fix this, but if previous games are any indication, that´s both no and no.

Let´s hope i guess...

[dmendenhall_9]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

PES has problems too Peji, but the lack of purpose on offense is not one of them like in FIFA.



Just saw your first game Dortmund (you) vs City (CPU), my thoughts:

- CPU had 5 shots on goal the whole game and 7 total, don´t be fooled by the end game stats, they count ALL shots, even the ones that don´t reach the goal.
- 4 of the shots on goal, includind the goal, where rebound shots. Now, this IS a situation where CPU does shoot (like in previous years). Rebounds in front of the goal, they will shoot it, also in situations of corners, if you clear the ball with a header to the front of the box, a CPU player will shoot. However, in regular plays, with no rebounds, they tend to not shoot. In many ocasions, where a CPU player is near the box and can shoot they just go to the sides and start passing around until they loose possession (that happened in your game a lot).
- CPU has no purpose on offense. It´s almost like they don´t want to score or create chances. There wasn´t a single 1-2 near the box (a common play in football to break down defences) to get a man open to shoot.
- CPU does defend well, and the game in general is good, but the CPU on offense has the same problem of last year, no purpose, can´t build good plays to score, doesn´t shoot from distance (except rebound or first time shots).

EDIT: also, 91% pass accuracy from CPU Man. City... even with the slider edits.

I totally agree. When PES demo came out everyone was like pass percentage is way too high!!! Now on FIFA it is the same and no one seems to say anything. I think maybe sliders can fix it but not a day one for me. Wait and see if ya'll can fix it! ha. Also fix the fact that team generally play the same. Yes it is more varied this year but no there is no team style.

[Gnemi]

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I just played several matches with Barca against BMG on World Class and "lack of purpose" was certainly not a problem for BMG attack. They kinda came at me for every match, took shots from distance, etc.

I was mostly pissed that I couldn't seem to get my teammates to pressure them. Granted, I didn't try anything tactically, but that's where I see a lack of purpose, still. AI teammate defending.

Are you guys seeing AI teammates not be useless? I still don't concede a ton of goals, but as BL8 pointed out, I have to do all the work on World Class, taking control of every player on my defense to be sure they don't over-commit or give up position to the CPU attack.

[Gnemi]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

In other words, I wish defending didn't take SOOO much effort for mostly crap results.

[Zac]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available Now For Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, PC

I went back and played some fifa 15 last night. YIKES.

[Matt10]

Re: FIFA 16 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

Yes, most main complaints are gone, and it´s definitely a better game. But the lack of purpose and shooting by the CPU still shows a lot of it´s ugly head. Maybe on the final version it will be different, maybe sliders CAN fix this, but if previous games are any indication, that´s both no and no.

Let´s hope i guess...

I'm notching that one down as Nuno's optimism!