Discussion: What is UEFA Thinking?

[Zac]

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right... I'm a fan of both as well.. especially this year


and for all those that do love FIFA so much... better hope PES is around always because that's the reason they are both good games I think..

I have already seen PES advertised during soccer matches on the ad boards watching matches lately on TV more than I have seen for FIFA so far.

I also would not be surprised if PES gets some higher scores than Fifa this year in some of the European gaming sites. PES2016 won best sports game at the gamescon event in Germany over FIFA2016 in August for example..

So sales of PES might be up this year.. They are not going to surpass FIFA but they might be good for it's own right.

Exactly. Its why I buy both games every year. I don't Play PES as much as FIFA. But its good to support both to help make sure the competition lasts. Otherwise the one that out lives the other will most likely go stale. Look at 2K. They crushed live. Live went away, 2k was just so so for those few years. I don't mean they had bad games, but they stopped improving. Then Live came back, and boom. They were on the ball again. Competition in gaming is good for the gamer. Also why console wars have always confused me.

Also PES coming out a week before FIFA this year is a god send.

[BFig]

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I would like to pose probably dumb a question or scenario because I am quite certain of the answer. Or maybe I don't know the answer.

If you could foresee the future with EA finally acquiring the UEFA license exclusively, but the drawback is the game subsequently deteriorates at a steady pace and goes through rocky times. There is still competition so to speak, but the competition no longer has the license to keep it afloat. PES is still an available option for a few years, despite massive improvements to its gameplay and presentation that even surpasses your own expectations along with highly acclaimed reviews, sales has drastically improved but still rather lackluster, and in turn, Konami has announced it will leave the soccer business in a couple more years. PES's final release creates a product that smashes all competition. It becomes the gold standard in the world of soccer and only second to 2k basketball, followed by MLB the Show in 3rd. Unfortunately fans can't swallow the fact that PES doesn't have licenses. FIFA essentially becomes the next Madden, rich with licenses, still selling massive units but the overall product suffers, still playable and readily enjoyed by many but also flooded with even more complaints. Not analogous to the Madden that is now, but the Madden state of the PS3/XBox360 era. No longer do fans consider FIFA a solid product. It's just another game in the industry, albeit still a rather popular product with casual crowd.

All hypothetical of course, but if this is the case, do you still believe or would you want EA to go after the UEFA license exclusivity knowing well that it will be the downfall of FIFA, still playable, but not what FIFA is today or could have been with PES still around?

If what you said was to happen i'd be pretty disappointed but idt EA would drop the ball on the world's sport. Fifa consistently gets better every year and hopefully it continues. Attaining UCL really shouldn't hurt how they improve their game play and presentation. Fifa is really the one game for me that never gets old and it's always fun to play, but personally idt getting UCL would hurt the game, at least hopefully not.

[Zac]

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Honestly though, I'm very disappointed in how EA handles the fake one they use now. There is no flare or special presentation for it at all. Its just like every other bland unlicensed league or cup game. They really need to put some effort into those. Make them seem important. Give them something extra other than the dry same old presentation.

[BFig]

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Honestly though, I'm very disappointed in how EA handles the fake one they use now. There is no flare or special presentation for it at all. Its just like every other bland unlicensed league or cup game. They really need to put some effort into those. Make them seem important. Give them something extra other than the dry same old presentation.

Exactly, they could make a very good fake Champions League, it's just bland and uneventful. They could build up the games, have a special entrance song for the teams coming out (Obviously not the real CL music) just something to make the games seem important.

[dubcity]

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Exactly, they could make a very good fake Champions League, it's just bland and uneventful. They could build up the games, have a special entrance song for the teams coming out (Obviously not the real CL music) just something to make the games seem important.

Do they do presentation elements like that for other tournaments in career mode? FA Cup, etc? I mean, aside from the generic confetti celebration if you win the whole thing. My point being that EA doesn't seem interested in adding special things like that in offline modes at all.

[kaletore11]

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My point being that EA doesn't seem interested in offline modes at all.

Fixed that for you.

[flo182]

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Sad but true...

There are sooo many little things which could be fixed and improved during 1 year and I'm waiting since FIFA 11 that they at least start improving those things, but nothing happens.

I mean if you think about it, they have 1 year to work on career mode and one of the two main features they present is pre-season tournaments, wtf ?!

So they just put a 8-team tournament (a feature that has been in every modern football game over the last 15-20 years) and make it available in career mode. Wow, fantastic!

They bring back Training mode, which is essentially just the mini-games they introduced over the last years and combine it with a training mode we already had in FIFA 09! Thats not progress! And probably training will be totally unbalanced and overpowered, because they just dont give a **** about putting any real effort in the offline modes.

[lonestarr022]

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I think it's not only a matter of money it's also a political aspect. UEFA is not much interested nowadays in have their name associated to Fifa, even in a videogame.

FIFA makes money off of PES too. Just because the game is called FIFA does not mean that it's more or less associated with the organization.

[lonestarr022]

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Exclusive Licenses should be illegal. Imagine how good both games would become if both developers had the licenses. Then they could focus on outdoing each other in the dev room instead of the negotiating table.

Exclusive licenses ruin games. Case in point.... Madden

I get that exclusive licensing is bad for a number of reasons. But You don't want to license to everyone with money. it then becomes a competition of 100 games and your league is in only the ones that can pay the price set that can then be inflated because of the sellers options.

Also, People need to remember it's not the NFL that's completely responsible for that, it's the NFLPA more so actually. According to the them, Exclusive licensing is protecting the integrity of the players (as if they aren't destroying it themselves already)

[RoyceDa59]

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I get that exclusive licensing is bad for a number of reasons. But You don't want to license to everyone with money. it then becomes a competition of 100 games and your league is in only the ones that can pay the price set that can then be inflated because of the sellers options.

Also, People need to remember it's not the NFL that's completely responsible for that, it's the NFLPA more so actually. According to the them, Exclusive licensing is protecting the integrity of the players (as if they aren't destroying it themselves already)

This is true but I kind of miss those days when there were all kinds of crazy licensed sports games.