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  • Peji911
    Sexiest Woman Alive!
    • Aug 2004
    • 2098

    #16
    Have they changed the AI shooting?

    ie: Do they now shoot from outside the box or still try to walk it in?
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    • nicecool
      Rookie
      • Jun 2011
      • 43

      #17
      A game of football is not the contrast (and thus fouls whistled) is not a game of football.

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      • bwright25
        Rookie
        • Jul 2009
        • 69

        #18
        Originally posted by kaletore11
        This looks really good. Yes, the AI offense is much better and they actually have build up play, but I'm the most impressed by the AI defense. You have to think before you pass or run, you have to plan every move in advance and play smart possession football. That was NEVER the case in previous fifas, I LOVE it.
        Are you playing against cpu or online? Personally the game is basically the same as 15. At least h2h FUTis. Lob thrus are still way too powerful. Game is way too fast. Holding down sprint the entire game is still acceptable and players do not tire at realistic rates. Whats worse is they added a aggressive tackle option in assignments. EVERY player is a tackle monster on defense combine with flying all over the place= people lob thru the entire game

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        • bwright25
          Rookie
          • Jul 2009
          • 69

          #19
          Basically FIFA has hit a wall and the game has flat lined. Coming from a die hard

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          • Peji911
            Sexiest Woman Alive!
            • Aug 2004
            • 2098

            #20
            Originally posted by bwright25
            Are you playing against cpu or online? Personally the game is basically the same as 15. At least h2h FUTis. Lob thrus are still way too powerful. Game is way too fast. Holding down sprint the entire game is still acceptable and players do not tire at realistic rates. Whats worse is they added a aggressive tackle option in assignments. EVERY player is a tackle monster on defense combine with flying all over the place= people lob thru the entire game
            Dammit, why did I order this?!
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            • bwright25
              Rookie
              • Jul 2009
              • 69

              #21
              For reference. I only play UT h2h seasons and tourneys. I never play against CPU. And I also would like to add I probably play guys with HIGH elo. So my competition maybe a bit skewed at the moment considering its early access.

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              • ChaseB
                #BringBackFaceuary
                • Oct 2003
                • 9843

                #22
                Re: FIFA 16 Video - Retail Vs. Demo Side By Side Gameplay Comparison

                Originally posted by bwright25
                For reference. I only play UT h2h seasons and tourneys. I never play against CPU. And I also would like to add I probably play guys with HIGH elo. So my competition maybe a bit skewed at the moment considering its early access.
                I don't think you're entirely unjust in your opinion, but on some level I do think it might just be you're finding guys really good at FIFA as a whole. For a point of reference, I played someone last night who did what you described and handled him easily 3-1. Now I did go to elevated through balls a decent amount, but more because he was opening up huge swathes of real estate by playing this psycho style so I just would play the ball into space to avoid the chaos.

                My general feeling so far is that yes the defending is still too hyperactive in the online environment, which leads to too many collisions and wild physicality (though there are more fouls for sure). However, giving up that much open space by being a psycho aggressive player is opening up more lanes than in the past, and I do think it's harder to recover. Stamina still does need to matter more as well in these online games, no argument there.
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                • SpritePuck
                  Rookie
                  • May 2014
                  • 408

                  #23
                  Re: FIFA 16 Video - Retail Vs. Demo Side By Side Gameplay Comparison

                  I am just going to say it. A sports game will never be developed that when played online against other humans has real hardcore sim quality.

                  In my opinion FIFA 16 is the best FIFA to date. Online it is going to be explioted just as every sports game ever has been and will be.

                  The AI improvements are less noticble when someone else takes control of your opponent and stops the AI from doing all the good things it does when left on its own to do them.

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                  • takki
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 643

                    #24
                    Re: FIFA 16: Retail Vs. Demo Side By Side Gameplay Comparison

                    Originally posted by speedtrucker
                    are missing the point of the comparison...

                    there has been a contingent of people on here that have been crying foul that the demo felt "right" and that the retail version was sped up and completely changed.

                    this comparison is to directly address those "concerns". as we see in the video, it was 100% placebo effect.
                    Nobody ever complained about the H2H or "Exhibition" gameplay. It was perfect in the demo and if you watched streams of youtubers who got the game early, it was easy to see that they didn't change anything.

                    It's the FUT gameplay that they changed from the demo build to the current pre-release build they have now.

                    I didn't miss anything. I'm pointing out that this comparison is pointing out something we already knew. They didn't touch the exhibition gameplay. It's the FUT gameplay that they changed and what the community was whining about.
                    Last edited by takki; 09-18-2015, 03:30 PM.

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                    • speedtrucker
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 536

                      #25
                      Re: FIFA 16: Retail Vs. Demo Side By Side Gameplay Comparison

                      Originally posted by takki
                      Nobody ever complained about the H2H or "Exhibition" gameplay. It was perfect in the demo and if you watched streams of youtubers who got the game early, it was easy to see that they didn't change anything.

                      It's the FUT gameplay that they changed from the demo build to the current pre-release build they have now.

                      I didn't miss anything. I'm pointing out that this comparison is pointing out something we already knew. They didn't touch the exhibition gameplay. It's the FUT gameplay that they changed and what the community was whining about.
                      I still think you are missing the point... this video wasn't addressing FUT. if ChaseB decides to tackle the changes to FUT with a side by side Demo vs Retail then that will address the potential problems with FUT. (which I'm not saying aren't potentially valid)

                      and yes there has been a large contingent of people on here and EA forums that have come out and said that the Demo exhibition(not just FUT) was a slower pace than the retail version. in a different thread, ChaseB addressed this and that is why we have this video and thread.

                      so again, there might be 100% difference between FUT speeds in user v user matchups but this video was to address something different.

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                      • ChaseB
                        #BringBackFaceuary
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 9843

                        #26
                        Re: FIFA 16 Video - Retail Vs. Demo Side By Side Gameplay Comparison

                        I can't properly compare FUT in the demo to retail, especially because it's H2H FUT where the concerns are. Like, it's not really possible.
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                        • SpritePuck
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 408

                          #27
                          Re: FIFA 16 Video - Retail Vs. Demo Side By Side Gameplay Comparison

                          Originally posted by ChaseB
                          I can't properly compare FUT in the demo to retail, especially because it's H2H FUT where the concerns are. Like, it's not really possible.
                          Chase refusing to do the impossible again:wink:. He probs adheres to the laws of physics and puts his socks on one foot at a time also....

                          Just when I was starting to think he was super hero like for making these awesome vids... He shows he is a human, a super cool FIFA knowledge sharing human, but still lives within the realm of possble.

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                          • ncaafootball14markus
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 168

                            #28
                            just got the full game yesterday...



                            i will say that the computer AI does indeed play different and SMARTER than the demo on BOTH sides of the ball, making it pretty difficult to score goals. Ground through balls do work, you just need to know how much to press....soft taps can get your through balls through small gaps because it will place them through more of a diagonal. However, if you just PRESS on the through ball, it's more straight and fast, and the defender will intercept. You should only PRESS or HOLD when you're doing long through balls and can see a huge gap.

                            But yes, I REALLY like this new FIFA 16. It's damn well close to the real game. People will be frustrated by this iteration because you do have to be patient. In fifa 15 (a game i played all year, logging hundreds of games against computer), i would maybe lose ONE game on world class, once every 30 games. Now, LOL, i'm struggling to win 1 out of every 5. Don't expect huge 5-0 games, at least not until you figure out how to beat the comp.
                            Last edited by ncaafootball14markus; 09-19-2015, 02:08 PM.

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                            • redsox4evur
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 18169

                              #29
                              Re: FIFA 16 Video - Retail Vs. Demo Side By Side Gameplay Comparison

                              I would remove your sidenote as if they (EA) find out this shop is selling the game before the release date they will probably not get the game early anymore or not at all. Also those things aren't allowed to be posted in the open. In PM's it's fine but not as a post, if you get what I am saying.
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                              • ncaafootball14markus
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 168

                                #30
                                Re: FIFA 16 Video - Retail Vs. Demo Side By Side Gameplay Comparison

                                Originally posted by redsox4evur
                                I would remove your sidenote as if they (EA) find out this shop is selling the game before the release date they will probably not get the game early anymore or not at all. Also those things aren't allowed to be posted in the open. In PM's it's fine but not as a post, if you get what I am saying.
                                duly noted.

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