Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

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  • BQ32
    Pro
    • Jan 2011
    • 671

    #1

    Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

    I buy Fifa annually, as with many I played PES back in the PS2 era and then gave up on Footie games completely until Fifa 12 and the fantastic inclusion of tactical defending. It was beautiful, added enjoyment to both sides of the ball, and brought in a new level of simulation.

    Since 12 though, I have never had that same sense of Awe. Year after year the game still is pushed by arcadey gameplay, most prominently the Pace. Many factors were overlooked. Threw ball accuracy with the defenses inability to retreat and cover, players such as Ranaldo sprinting 75 yards down the pitch shrugging off or warping through a user controlled player while AI players at times appeared to be running for their lives or getting out of the way, Or in years past the laser beam crosses to impossible headers happening continuously. All leading to a game played by most users with little strategy. Yet year after year I watched these games receive high acclimation and review scores scoring 9's and 8's. It was as if the reviewers just looked at new animations or Ranaldo scans and didn't worry about a simulation game recreating the sport.

    Now we come to Fifa 16. For the first time in years I am in awe. This game is such a drastic change in gameplay it is astonishing. The controls are the same, it looks the same, but when playing it, it is a whole different beast and represents the sport better then ever before. It is now such a rewarding game instead of a frustrating one. And for the first time ever it forces you to be patient, think about your options and find seems and strategies to attack. Yet all the review scores I see popping up around the net are down from 9's and 8's to 8's and 7's. Now I am not saying that to someone this game isn't an 8 or even a 7 but when certain sites give the last couple iterations a 9 and this one drops down into the 7's then it is huge flag to the actual knowledge these reviewers have of the sport and what it is supposed to recreate.
    I fear that these scores along with the EA ***** bandwagon jumping individuals influence gameplay. What is a rewarding experience now might quickly be tuned for a more simplistic approach and we will be left yet again with an arcade game instead of a simulation.
  • xicpanad
    Pro
    • Sep 2008
    • 579

    #2
    Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

    Either these reviewers have something to win, or their simply stupid. I don´t get it. I didn´t even get it last year. Fifa was a better package than the cometition, but still PES was considered the sports game of the year .
    PES did some revolution in buildup play, but in the rest!? It´s boring, no emotion in the final third, no control on shots wich are, by the way, overpowered and repetitive. Game might have some more fun in manual mode, but still lacks that emotion and the unexpected factor. Presentation is a joke, lack of licenses has no excuse and still, considered by many the best sports game of the year. This year Fifa has achieved what PES has been trying for the last two years. PES became near, Fifa just nailed it.

    They have changed the two things that failed in last edition: Pace (along with dribling), and defense type. Then all the other details that have grown slowly in fifa series... it´s the animations, the presentation, the licenses, the stadium environment, the camera changes between matches, the weather system, the picth wear, the unexpected injuries, the fouls, the ball physics, it´s the damn fu@£ing awesomely realistic replays that makes us .

    This game IS the full package and I hope it takes alot more then some incompetent and biased reviewers to make EA change it because as it is, for me, it´s the best soccer game we can play right now.
    It´s just a job - Fifa 16 Career Mode

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    • slimk78
      Rookie
      • Aug 2010
      • 12

      #3
      Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

      I'm in complete agreement with the folks above. This is as good as it gets for FIFA, and it's leaps and bounds above 15' and actually feels like soccer. Reviewers are knocking it because "they forgot it's a game" when that basically means "I can't score at will". I played Arsenal vs PSG last night and ended up winning 3-2. Was one of the most fun sports gaming experiences I've had. Never felt cheated and I had to work for every pass and goal I got. And this is coming from someone who felt PES 15 was a much better game then FIFA. But the no fouls thing just kills it.

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      • fearwhatnow
        MVP
        • Aug 2006
        • 1474

        #4
        Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

        Take a look to my quick impressions and KG's review of the game here at OS. KG is spot on with his review which I consider right now the best in the net for FIFA 16.
        After playing the demo I was sure the game will get lower scores because of the sim approach.
        The real question is do we want football or something like football? For the latter there's Rocket League. Now at last we have a football game. After 10 years.

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        • PAPERNUT
          Gaming Fool.
          • May 2003
          • 1690

          #5
          Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

          Originally posted by BQ32
          I fear that these scores along with the EA ***** bandwagon jumping individuals influence gameplay. What is a rewarding experience now might quickly be tuned for a more simplistic approach and we will be left yet again with an arcade game instead of a simulation.
          I agree 100%. I never trust most reviews besides the ones here at OS, but EA certainly follows them and Metacritic for sure. I read all weekend from the #FIFA16 thread and seen a lot of complaints from the casuals. I also seen a lot of good things as well, so we need to let EA know their direction is right this year or else we will see a repeat of 15 in 17. I said it during the demo and it applies here as well, Tweet, email, chat with EA and kill them with kindness as they will certainly respond to positive feedback than the typical hate.
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          • dubcity
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2012
            • 17872

            #6
            Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

            I have noticed critics knocking the slower pace a bit here and there, but seems like the vast majority of the reviews are still very simplistic and positive. Especially the ones from more mainstream sources (read the ESPN one, lol). They basically boil down to, "FIFA is still totally awesome, there are women's teams, it's totally fun to score goals, etc." I wouldn't worry too much.

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            • RoyceDa59
              Chillin
              • Aug 2003
              • 3830

              #7
              Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

              Originally posted by dubcity
              I have noticed critics knocking the slower pace a bit here and there, but seems like the vast majority of the reviews are still very simplistic and positive. Especially the ones from more mainstream sources (read the ESPN one, lol). They basically boil down to, "FIFA is still totally awesome, there are women's teams, it's totally fun to score goals, etc." I wouldn't worry too much.
              They play 5 games and give a review, sounds legit.

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              • fearwhatnow
                MVP
                • Aug 2006
                • 1474

                #8
                Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

                Originally posted by RoyceDa59
                They play 5 games in Beginner difficulty and give a review, sounds legit.
                Fixed it for you. On Pro and especially on WC difficulty I highly doubt they had fun in scoring many goals...

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                • SilverChaosVII
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 559

                  #9
                  Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

                  I buy both games... typically FIFA for online play and PES for single player play.

                  Both have their perks. Both have their flaws.

                  IMO, I'm with the reviewers that PES takes it to FIFA in terms of simulation gameplay. That said, FIFA has made HUGE strides in the right direction this year. They have the soccer part of it all finally right. Unfortunately, the game still has absolutely horrible physics. That's the one place that PES gets it completely right and FIFA completely fails. Changes the game drastically.

                  I think it has a lot to do with the engine. Players have weight. In FIFA I feel like every player is a damn feather. I want the big strong players to feel like that.... big and strong. They just don't. There is no physicality.

                  PES has huge flaws too - lack of licenses, awful presentation poor game modes, horrible online, and of course minor AI issues.

                  FIFA gets the licenses, presentation, online, and game modes right... but still isn't quite there with the gameplay and AI.

                  I think the PES reviews are a bit overblown. It's a good game, but not unbelievably great. Still edges out FIFA in gameplay, but lacks everywhere else.
                  Last edited by SilverChaosVII; 09-22-2015, 04:46 PM.
                  PSN: SiiLv3Rx

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                  • xicpanad
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 579

                    #10
                    Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

                    I understand your opinion and accept it as yours. In my point of view, Fifa has beaten PES in gameplay this year. Lack of an understanding foul system is a gamebreaker for me. Players iceskating here and there to corretly hit the ball isn´t very beatifull in terms of physics also. GK´s still have a long way to go to even get near Fifa´s and about weight, Fifa is miles better then last year. I really think EA hit the spot overall, surprisingly I must say.
                    It´s just a job - Fifa 16 Career Mode

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                    • dwnz
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 97

                      #11
                      Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

                      In the summary section for PES, the only negative they listed was 'Uneven, repetitive commentary'.

                      We all know what the negatives are, the fact that IGN don't even consider them worth mention speaks volumes about IGNs ability to review these games.

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                      • BrianFifaFan
                        Semi-retired
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4137

                        #12
                        Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

                        The IGN one really tickles me. The same guy says PES is quite possibly the greatest footie game of all time. But only if you go off of "feel." Then Fifa is meh. If you like Fifa, it's good enough. But not good. Really? Objective? No. There should be a disclaimer: "I love PES, and have waited for four years to say "We're back!" I finally downloaded the PES demo, and I'm gonna buy it. It's actually decent looking on my rig. And plays well. But it's not the be all and end all he's making it out to be. Menus are ugly. Player models are all a tad on the chunky side. And the goalies move like they are as fat as they look.

                        I get the vision. It's good, really good. And Konami's hard work at stabilizing this series should be celebrated. They built a great game. Let's give props. But not at the expense of saying Fifa is a rehash and lacks gameplay depth. Nobody has to lose here. It's great to have two very good, yet different, games. Chocolate and Vanilla. And, as much as I love my footie games, NBA2k looks to be an entirely different level of sports game altogether. Great year for sports games!
                        Note to Tiburon Marketing:

                        A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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                        • dwnz
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 97

                          #13
                          Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

                          Originally posted by BrianFifaFan
                          And, as much as I love my footie games, NBA2k looks to be an entirely different level of sports game altogether. Great year for sports games!
                          Definitely agree here, from what I've seen 2k16 is going to set a new standard for sports games.

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                          • Josam27o7
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 605

                            #14
                            Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

                            Originally posted by dwnz
                            Definitely agree here, from what I've seen 2k16 is going to set a new standard for sports games.


                            Really? In nba2k you can dribble the ball in front of a defender knowing they will have little chance of sticking in a hand to steal the ball. So all you can do is play body defense. Not real basketball at all. Immersion and gameplay breaker for me. You feel like you are playing a cut-scene initiator not a video game.

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                            • TeleTex82
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 219

                              #15
                              Re: Fifa 16: An Indictment against Reviewer Competency

                              Honestly, PES is great this year. I have no problem with it beating FIFA in the reviews. What I can't abide, is FIFA getting knocked for being too "sim", what's the point of a sport simulation if it isn't realism? A lot of the people knocking this year version are FUT people. I honestly have no use for Magic the Gathering with football tacked on. Those insipid pack opening videos are the worst elements of the FIFA universe...

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