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  • Josam27o7
    Pro
    • Sep 2009
    • 605

    #61
    Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

    Originally posted by talucchesi
    Do not ignore this though Sprite, go on Futhead (Fifa's home for fut lovers basically) and look at the top comment on the latest patch. http://news.futhead.com/posts/fifa-1...comment-sort=r

    Even the Fut lovers wanted pace to be nipped. Even they want a realistic game, at least it seems like the majority of them. More people might want a sim experience than you think


    No. You are completely wrong, again. Futhead is a site run by Dave Bryant and Tom Mills -- they are sim enthusiasts and push sim gameplay on that site. The futhead site community support dave Bryant's sim push. They are definitely not the casual fut player.

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    • mfp
      Rookie
      • Nov 2010
      • 377

      #62
      Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

      Someone needs to make a poll of whether people think the patch changes gameplay at all. Impressions are all over the place!

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      • BL8001
        MVP
        • Jul 2010
        • 1884

        #63
        Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

        On the ea forum they are closing threads that discuss gameplay changes in the new patch.

        The mods are saying there are no gameplay changes.

        Anyone with eyes can read the patch notes and see the keepers were changed.

        That is gameplay.

        More than anything, we all know how EA and most companies work. You might have 3 people adding great things to the patch and taking thorough notes but 3 people changing things and not keeping notes.

        Also the whole game is a bit of push/pull, house of cards.

        Who knows if tweaking keeper rush logic doesn't also make the cpu direct pass more? I am being totally serious.

        Its all such a wonderful mess of legacy code dragged forward I am sure all sorts of madness occurs when you touch anything.
        resident curmudgeon

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        • fearwhatnow
          MVP
          • Aug 2006
          • 1474

          #64
          Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

          Originally posted by BL8001
          On the ea forum they are closing threads that discuss gameplay changes in the new patch.

          The mods are saying there are no gameplay changes.

          Anyone with eyes can read the patch notes and see the keepers were changed.

          That is gameplay.

          More than anything, we all know how EA and most companies work. You might have 3 people adding great things to the patch and taking thorough notes but 3 people changing things and not keeping notes.

          Also the whole game is a bit of push/pull, house of cards.

          Who knows if tweaking keeper rush logic doesn't also make the cpu direct pass more? I am being totally serious.

          Its all such a wonderful mess of legacy code dragged forward I am sure all sorts of madness occurs when you touch anything.
          I can't see how GK rush logic could affect cpu passing logic. GK has it's own AI code.
          Also this game is not FIFA 16. It's BPL 16. I just watched Everton Vs Liverpool and it's more than obvious that EA Canada tries to represent the football played in BPL. This is more evident with the last update.
          I'm quite sure now they have a couple of new devs this year who helped with the new AI code. They didn't hear any community. They only watch the BPL and adapt the gameplay accordingly.

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          • talucchesi
            Pro
            • Nov 2012
            • 509

            #65
            Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

            Originally posted by Josam27o7
            No. You are completely wrong, again. Futhead is a site run by Dave Bryant and Tom Mills -- they are sim enthusiasts and push sim gameplay on that site. The futhead site community support dave Bryant's sim push. They are definitely not the casual fut player.
            How unhappy are you with your life? Lol I feel like you have some personal vandetta against me. Anywayssss....

            Futhead is a sight with over 1 MILLION users across the world, http://www.futhead.com/about/ The most POPULAR website for fut players. If most of futhead are sim lovers, than that's a large group of people. If this is true, than it seems that most fut players also want a sim experience.

            The play style of the futhead creators HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the playing styles of who joins the site. People join futhead because they....well...I dunno....love ultimate team. Not because the founders enjoy a sim experience.

            Now, maybe the casual fut player doesn't want a sim experience like we on OS want a sim experience, but they do at least understand how much of a pace fest 15 was. They joke about it all the time. Go on Biabany, Ibarbo, or Aubameyang and look at the top comments.

            Now if you're saying that casual fut players aren't on Futhead, than would you like telling me where they are?
            /Sass
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            • bad_philanthropy
              MVP
              • Jul 2005
              • 12167

              #66
              Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

              For those that have played with the patch, is the AI a bit less agile and clever on the ball in their own third. I've found keepers and central defenders in lower leagues are able to handle the ball with too much confidence and success at times.

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              • fearwhatnow
                MVP
                • Aug 2006
                • 1474

                #67
                Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

                Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
                For those that have played with the patch, is the AI a bit less agile and clever on the ball in their own third. I've found keepers and central defenders in lower leagues are able to handle the ball with too much confidence and success at times.

                Yes, after the update I managed to even steal the ball a few times. That was against teams like Swansea, Norwich, Southampton but with a quick player like Vardy. Even though the % passing accuracy is still around 83-88% for cpu they make tons of mistakes compared to vanilla game. Also the midfield is way more crowded. Wings are more open by the cpu but they boosted the cpu backs ability to tackle and win the ball if you try to run the wings like in FIFA 15.

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                • SpritePuck
                  Rookie
                  • May 2014
                  • 408

                  #68
                  Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

                  There is a rumor that the patch gives Memphis Depay and others a real face..
                  I do not see this in EA notes that face scans were added. Can someone check Memphis for me and see if he is real face now?

                  *sits back to watch the battle of what the patch did continue

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                  • bad_philanthropy
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 12167

                    #69
                    Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

                    Originally posted by fearwhatnow
                    Yes, after the update I managed to even steal the ball a few times. That was against teams like Swansea, Norwich, Southampton but with a quick player like Vardy. Even though the % passing accuracy is still around 83-88% for cpu they make tons of mistakes compared to vanilla game. Also the midfield is way more crowded. Wings are more open by the cpu but they boosted the cpu backs ability to tackle and win the ball if you try to run the wings like in FIFA 15.
                    That's encouraging. I'm not saying I want to be able to sprint around and steal the ball, but I'd like to be able to pressure and direct the cpu's play from the back a bit with good positioning.

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                    • fearwhatnow
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 1474

                      #70
                      Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

                      Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
                      That's encouraging. I'm not saying I want to be able to sprint around and steal the ball, but I'd like to be able to pressure and direct the cpu's play from the back a bit with good positioning.
                      You can do it now. Many times the cpu just sent the ball to the path of my players especially in the midfield.
                      Another brilliant moment had the cpu forced to bring the ball from their attack all the way back to their defense after good positioning.

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                      • RoyceDa59
                        Chillin
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 3830

                        #71
                        Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

                        Originally posted by SpritePuck
                        There is a rumor that the patch gives Memphis Depay and others a real face..
                        I do not see this in EA notes that face scans were added. Can someone check Memphis for me and see if he is real face now?

                        *sits back to watch the battle of what the patch did continue
                        I am curious about this as well.

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                        • BL8001
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1884

                          #72
                          Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

                          This is great. We have EA saying no gameplay changes.

                          Others saying it is different.

                          This is what I mean fearnow, EA isn't even sure what they changed when they change things. Fifa is such a complicated beast of a game AI wise who knows what really happens when they tweak things.

                          But for some reason EA is being adamant that gameplay was not touched.

                          A new royal family a wild nobility we are the family!
                          resident curmudgeon

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                          • fearwhatnow
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1474

                            #73
                            Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

                            Originally posted by BL8001
                            This is great. We have EA saying no gameplay changes.

                            Others saying it is different.

                            This is what I mean fearnow, EA isn't even sure what they changed when they change things. Fifa is such a complicated beast of a game AI wise who knows what really happens when they tweak things.

                            But for some reason EA is being adamant that gameplay was not touched.

                            A new royal family a wild nobility we are the family!
                            If I'm not mistaken they clearly state in the changelog there are changes in AI.

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                            • RoyceDa59
                              Chillin
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 3830

                              #74
                              Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

                              Originally posted by BL8001
                              This is great. We have EA saying no gameplay changes.

                              Others saying it is different.

                              This is what I mean fearnow, EA isn't even sure what they changed when they change things. Fifa is such a complicated beast of a game AI wise who knows what really happens when they tweak things.

                              But for some reason EA is being adamant that gameplay was not touched.

                              A new royal family a wild nobility we are the family!
                              Optimized goalkeeper rushing, AI, and positioning.

                              This can't mean they only focused on the goalkeepers right?

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                              • fearwhatnow
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 1474

                                #75
                                Re: FIFA 16 Patch #2 Available Now For PC Users, Later For PS4 & Xbox One

                                Originally posted by RoyceDa59
                                Optimized goalkeeper rushing, AI, and positioning.

                                This can't mean they only focused on the goalkeepers right?
                                Positioning post patch is exactly what they advertised before the release of the game. Defenders now come first to the ball by putting the whole body in front of the attacker. It's like the video with the features EA released the summer. Before the patch this feature was not implemented well.

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