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  • dcar87
    Rookie
    • Oct 2013
    • 89

    #1

    Default is not always acting like default

    Beware guys, some of you may not be having the Fifa experience EA designed for you. That is, the default sliders one.

    Last week I decided to re-download Fifa again since things were getting really weird. From positional issues to arcade Fifa street soccer speed and animations. When I booted up my "new" patched game I instantly felt the slow speed was back and the CPU wasn't acting like 11 Messi's and actually made mistakes.

    Well, after a week of playing and trying some personal slider sets and the community forum one's I decided to revisit the default sliders again because of all the talk going on, that modified sliders overran team tactics and player abilities and all that. What was my surprise that playing on default sliders the game was super pacey and playing against Bournemouth they even outshot me (Chelsea) 20-7 which was totally unrealistic. Tackle numbers were also very high and there were few fouls which felt really odd and didn't make sense after reading opinions like Fluffy's for example. Something made me think everything was going out of whack again. After exiting the game I accidentally saved the default sliders and turned everything off.

    A couple of hours later I started everything again and my suspicions were right! My custom sliders were not showing anymore and everything was back to default, so I started a match against Bournemouth and the match felt awesome, no more hyper speed and lightning passes and tons of errors from the CPU on world class. Lots of variety as well.

    Could some of you please try this to confirm this theory, that default sliders are sometimes masked and are acting as a previous saved slider set and the default set must be saved after exiting the game? I am pretty sure this is not a placebo. I played the same match after the previous arcady one with default and the results were night and day.
  • xicpanad
    Pro
    • Sep 2008
    • 579

    #2
    Re: Default is not always acting like default

    Funny thing I had a similar experience after the patch. I just reseted sliders to default and everything looked great. The next day, game was just crazy, sspeedy as hell and tikitaka all over the place. I thought that when I reseted the sliders to default, game was still influenced by the custom ones. That felt so awkward that I didn't really believed it and moved on.
    It´s just a job - Fifa 16 Career Mode

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    • dcar87
      Rookie
      • Oct 2013
      • 89

      #3
      Re: Default is not always acting like default

      Originally posted by xicpanad
      Funny thing I had a similar experience after the patch. I just reseted sliders to default and everything looked great. The next day, game was just crazy, sspeedy as hell and tikitaka all over the place. I thought that when I reseted the sliders to default, game was still influenced by the custom ones. That felt so awkward that I didn't really believed it and moved on.
      The question is, is any slider playing as it should after altering the values in game? Back then in Fifa 13 something similar happened changing sliders during a match. Maybe the correct slider values only work when you save them, exit, and return to the game again. Why are goalies saving everything at 20 for example? Something strange is going on in the backround...

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      • BL8001
        MVP
        • Jul 2010
        • 1884

        #4
        Re: Default is not always acting like default

        I read this twice and please forgive me, but what do we test?

        What are we supposed to do?

        I am a poor test subject because I have not adjusted my sliders at all. But I have a friend who uses sliders.

        So he needs to reset them to default. Exit the game, come back and reset to default again?
        resident curmudgeon

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        • dcar87
          Rookie
          • Oct 2013
          • 89

          #5
          Re: Default is not always acting like default

          Yep, that should do it. Here is some gameplay I recorded playing on world class with default sliders. Pretty amazing. The pace is the most realistic you can possibly get from a videogame.




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          • dcar87
            Rookie
            • Oct 2013
            • 89

            #6
            Re: Default is not always acting like default

            Originally posted by BL8001
            I read this twice and please forgive me, but what do we test?



            What are we supposed to do?



            I am a poor test subject because I have not adjusted my sliders at all. But I have a friend who uses sliders.



            So he needs to reset them to default. Exit the game, come back and reset to default again?

            Is this the same gameplay you're experiencing with the default sliders? Today everything went arcadey again so I'm redownloading again to prove myself I am not seeing any placebos. I will try to not touch the sliders, slider you touch default game is screwed up.


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            • BL8001
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 1884

              #7
              Re: Default is not always acting like default

              Yep that looks very close to the gameplay I am seeing staying with default sliders.

              Only difference is I use co-op cam.

              It is strange that your gameplay is changing. So its only going haywire once you touch sliders?
              resident curmudgeon

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              • xicpanad
                Pro
                • Sep 2008
                • 579

                #8
                Re: Default is not always acting like default

                Today I finally left sliders alone for good. I fired up the game, reset all sliders and chose my control settings, dificulty and time for each half. Saved and quited. I even deleted the "reserved space" file just to make sure. Then restarted the game and started my career mode on World Class. Two games snd its been a blast. Not perfect, but very balanced.
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                • dcar87
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 89

                  #9
                  Default is not always acting like default

                  Originally posted by BL8001
                  Yep that looks very close to the gameplay I am seeing staying with default sliders.



                  Only difference is I use co-op cam.



                  It is strange that your gameplay is changing. So its only going haywire once you touch sliders?

                  It may be, still not 100% sure but didn't change them since. World class is a bit inconsistent at the moment for me though, so changed to Legendary last match and it looks slower and more tactical. Defenders are more aware than before too. It looks like a much fair game.


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                  Last edited by dcar87; 10-14-2015, 04:09 PM.

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                  • Gdbraden
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 128

                    #10
                    Re: Default is not always acting like default

                    I think that the game can bump up the quality of an opponent, regardless of sliders. It may have something to do with the form of the opponents you are playing, it may just be complete chance. In my Leverkusen CM I have been playing tightly contested games but coming out with wins against really good teams (Bayern, BVB, Barca, Arsenal) but have had two games where the opponents I should have beaten were clearly juiced up and I wasn't able to stop them. I don't think it has anything to do with the game forgetting to load my sliders, I just went up against the best version of a team that FIFA had to offer dressed as a mid table Bundesliga squad.

                    I think people get so involved in their slider set that they forget they are playing a random game. Enjoy the fact that not every game is the same, otherwise how much fun can it really be?

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                    • mfp
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 377

                      #11
                      Re: Default is not always acting like default

                      Originally posted by Gdbraden
                      I think that the game can bump up the quality of an opponent, regardless of sliders. It may have something to do with the form of the opponents you are playing, it may just be complete chance. In my Leverkusen CM I have been playing tightly contested games but coming out with wins against really good teams (Bayern, BVB, Barca, Arsenal) but have had two games where the opponents I should have beaten were clearly juiced up and I wasn't able to stop them. I don't think it has anything to do with the game forgetting to load my sliders, I just went up against the best version of a team that FIFA had to offer dressed as a mid table Bundesliga squad.

                      I think people get so involved in their slider set that they forget they are playing a random game. Enjoy the fact that not every game is the same, otherwise how much fun can it really be?
                      Very true. Pretty sure the PC guys have uncovered files that show random boosts for CPU teams in CM, so you never really know what you're going to get.

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                      • JHedges2
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 4651

                        #12
                        Re: Default is not always acting like default

                        Originally posted by mfp
                        Very true. Pretty sure the PC guys have uncovered files that show random boosts for CPU teams in CM, so you never really know what you're going to get.
                        That's what makes 'testing' so difficult, and as I've seen a lot argue...pointless.
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                        • mb90
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 9

                          #13
                          Re: Default is not always acting like default

                          Yeh sometimes they go all out.

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                          • Yerner
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 125

                            #14
                            Re: Default is not always acting like default

                            I've just picked this up after loving the demo. All I can say is I'm bummed because even on slow it's feeling really fast and arcadish. Something is just off.


                            I'm gonna delete everything from fifa this years and the past versions and see if it's changed. I can't believe this is the first version of fifa I've not loved . There has to be something weird/ wrong going on.

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                            • dcar87
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 89

                              #15
                              Default is not always acting like default

                              Originally posted by Yerner
                              I've just picked this up after loving the demo. All I can say is I'm bummed because even on slow it's feeling really fast and arcadish. Something is just off.


                              I'm gonna delete everything from fifa this years and the past versions and see if it's changed. I can't believe this is the first version of fifa I've not loved . There has to be something weird/ wrong going on.

                              Are you using sliders? Somehow, these are messing with the speed of the game and slow feels like normal...leave all settings at default at the start of a new fresh re-installed game and don't change them.

                              For me, the speed is the same as the demo right now.


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