Adaptive Difficulty

[bad_philanthropy]

Re: Adaptive Difficulty

I've had that experience too, certain matches where you're supposed to lose no matter what you try. I've run the same match repeatedly and maybe 1 out of 20 times I'd get a win out of it.

I just don't understand why the AI gets buffed in that particular way. Down the road, after the match I was talking about, I had a 4-1 loss in a Cup game to League One side S****horpe and it just felt so much better. Like it was my stupid mistakes and they made good, organic feeling plays, and deployed good tactics.

It didn't feel like I was in mud and playing against a rocket-propelled football robots.

[Gonira]

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In total I've logged about ten hours for this single match playing it over and over—more out of curiosity and careful experimentation than rage. In that time I have bagged one goal off a penalty, and ZERO from open play.

i don't believe you.

if i'm wrong and you really made this experiment as you described, props for you and in your place i would definitely be loud in calling ea about this bull****.

but sorry, i think you're lying. 10 hours should be enough to score at least 30-50 goals in normal conditions, and imo no ammount of scripting would be able to prevent you from scoring at least a handful.

btw, the ammount of bs i'm reading in the last few pages is incredible, i won't even start arguing.

[NinthFall]

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i don't believe you.

if i'm wrong and you really made this experiment as you described, props for you and in your place i would definitely be loud in calling ea about this bull****.

but sorry, i think you're lying. 10 hours should be enough to score at least 30-50 goals in normal conditions, and imo no ammount of scripting would be able to prevent you from scoring at least a handful.

btw, the ammount of bs i'm reading in the last few pages is incredible, i won't even start arguing.

So you came here to call every post in the last couple of pages bs and dropped the mic?

Please provide us with a video where you show how to score 5 or more goals in a cup game in career mode on world class

[Gonira]

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play a 30 minute half game and i'm sure you can.

with defaultish half lenght, it's obviously hard. there's only so many scoring opportunities you can have in a given period of time.

[ricardodc]

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i don't believe you.

if i'm wrong and you really made this experiment as you described, props for you and in your place i would definitely be loud in calling ea about this bull****.

but sorry, i think you're lying. 10 hours should be enough to score at least 30-50 goals in normal conditions, and imo no ammount of scripting would be able to prevent you from scoring at least a handful.

btw, the ammount of bs i'm reading in the last few pages is incredible, i won't even start arguing.

So you came here to call every post in the last couple of pages bs and dropped the mic?

Please provide us with a video where you show how to score 5 or more goals in a cup game in career mode on world class

Gonira: a FIFA 17 video, not FIFA 14.
Anything lower than Professional doesn't count. Default sliders please.

Now seriously: you show no respect for others. Grow up.

[Gonira]

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i'm debating opinions and i didn't offend anyone as far as i'm aware. you only say i'm disrespectful because i don't agree with you.

[ricardodc]

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i'm debating opinions and i didn't offend anyone as far as i'm aware. you only say i'm disrespectful because i don't agree with you.

Calling others liers and classifying others posts as bs isn't debating. That's lack of respect. You should apologize!

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[Matt10]

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Hard to believe anyone is really playing a full game more than 5x and not winning.

At what point does it go back to the user's responsibility? Also, there's not enough details (or video for that matter) on what prevented the user from winning.

If the CPU is warping speed faster than your teammate AI, or players you control, then that could be an issue - but this is falling into some murky water if you ask me.

[Gonira]

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Calling others liers and classifying others posts as bs isn't debating. That's lack of respect. You should apologize!

i said i just THINK he's lying =)
but ok, guilty as charged then.

anyway, i won't apologize for stating my opinion, i still think i'm right in both statements.

[Gonira]

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Hard to believe anyone is really playing a full game more than 5x and not winning.

it can even happen 5x, idk. but people exaggerate too much in this subject. 10 hours? come on...

i'm not even saying there's no scripting in offline games. there is, at least some sort of. but to the extent that a lot of people claim? i highly doubt.

saying there are games like this where the script decides that the player will lose 100% of time, period, is like saying that the cpu would totally win those games even if you handled your joystick to world's #1 ranked player. and i bet my *** this player would smash the cpu any day without bitching.

[bacchus]

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Hi All,


This is my first posting but I hope that this will contribute to this debate and help us work towards resolving this. I think I have the answer to whether this happens or not. Let me explain...

I play cpu v cpu as I like setting tactics like a manager and seeing what happens. I always chose the away team and once kick off occurs I switch controls to "no user". Thi somehow gives an advantage to the home side with a 48% home win records after 60 hours of 8 minute halves on professional. Thus no human playing or controlling. Here is what I have noticed using this system:

After 60 hours only one match had a winning margin of 3 goals with the winner scoring more than 3 goals (i.e. 4-1)

No match has had a winning margin of more than 3 goals regardless of who is playing (i have played EPL, international, european and teams from different divisions like Premier league vs Skybet One). The highest score has been 4-1 with quite a few 3-0s.

When ever any team (home or away) finishes the first half 3-0 winning, they NEVER score again unless the away team gets one back (this includes missing absolute sitters with 90+ strikers, the 3-0 winning team looking like Bury when they are Chelsea and Bury suddenly for the whole half until they get one back looking like Chelsea

No team ever scores 5,6 or 7 as happens in real life football.

Having eliminated the human element I can see that what this thread first accused the game of doing is absolutely true, especially evidenced when chelsea go in at half time winning 3-0 vs Bury and then come out completely incompetent of shooting without hesitation or delaying the shot until they are tackled unless, say, Bury, score one back and then Chelsea will start to play like top players again (until they score again to make it 4-1 and then the elastic band effect I think you call it kicks in again).

Please find a way to nullify this. What program can I use to open the file you mention in order to edit it?

Lads (Gonira and
matt10), and what about my evidence then?

[KTBFFH]

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Sorry to anyone that disagrees, but could we please keep the discussion in this thread to adaptive difficulty in Fifa? Just trying to get it back on track. Thanks!

[Gonira]

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48% home win record? interesting. i did the same kind of testing in fifa 14 and got no home field advantage at all. so home advantage was finnaly implemented in fifa and no one noticed that? strange, but it would be great if this is conclusive and not only random chance (hard to be random after 60 hours, i admit).

about the scoring, as i said, 8 minutes is above default but still not that big of a half lenght. even if the goal scoring average you got was realistic, there's less room for variance than in real life... real life averages 20-30 scoring attempts per game. what would you get in a 8-minute half fifa match? less than half of that?

and yep, there's this adaptive difficulty thing. i'm almost sure it's the root of a lot of the issues you saw.

even then, anyway, it happens but it's probably less common than you might think to see a team score 5+ goals. take the current premier league, for example. 120 games and it only happened four times. but yeah, sucks if it NEVER happens.

you can open the file to deactivate adaptive difficulty with notepad. just change "enabled = 1" to "enabled = 0" and save, very simple.

[Millennium]

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i don't believe you.

if i'm wrong and you really made this experiment as you described, props for you and in your place i would definitely be loud in calling ea about this bull****.

but sorry, i think you're lying. 10 hours should be enough to score at least 30-50 goals in normal conditions, and imo no ammount of scripting would be able to prevent you from scoring at least a handful.

btw, the ammount of bs i'm reading in the last few pages is incredible, i won't even start arguing.

Good. Maybe when your ban is up on 7 days you'll understand how to talk to people you don't agree with.

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[bad_philanthropy]

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I wasn't lying about the ten hours thing. I played the match over and over for several days. Sometimes the whole match, sometimes restarts at various junctures. I was obsessed.

I expressed how certain parts of my team felt nerfed and the cpu buffed. I understand the necessity for this mechanic in order to represent/simulate the diversity of experience one would typically observe over the course of a season in a sport. It just felt a little extreme to me in this instance—more specific to how Yeovil was capable of performing athletically more than anything else.

It obviously could have been that I fell into some pattern or habit in relation to the cpu's tactics in that particular match, but I tried to be mindful of that and be detailed and critical in my approach.

Additionally, subsequent matches in that career mode and outside did not and have not troubled me in the same way—including a 4-1 loss in a Cup tie.

I wasn't blaming the cpu or ranting about it. I was simply discussing my strange experience with what felt like a variable in a game mode that needs a bit of attention and tuning. I also didn't dismiss the possibility that this was a user issue, but was just as confused by that scenario given my experience with the series.