AI defensive tackling HELP!

[kooch66]

Just got this years game though I have a decent amount of experience. I'm doing a manager career with Dortmund. For the life of me I can't get my defenders to step up to the ball, close gaps, jockey, stand tackle, slide tackle, anything. I'm playing on world class and legendary and have tried default sliders and the community sliders here. I've also messed with the tactics, setting aggression to 100. Makes no difference.

The opposing team will tackle me like crazy, they are really aggressive and they slide tackle me all the time. I'd say opposing AI teams avg 2 yellows per game. They press, jockey, attempt tackles, etc. My AI defenders do NONE of this. All they do is what I'd describe as contain, just shadow their man and CONSTANTLY leave them 2 or 3 feet to maneuver, even in the box. If I don't constantly switch to usering a defender they will allow the opposition to stroll into the box and take a clean shot every possession.

Oddly, if I player lock to say a striker, then my defenders will tackle! But if I'm controlling the team the 10 guys that I'm not directly controlling at the time will NEVER tackle. It's kind of ruining the game for me.

Any suggestions?

[OhMrHanky]

Re: AI defensive tackling HELP!

Just got this years game though I have a decent amount of experience. I'm doing a manager career with Dortmund. For the life of me I can't get my defenders to step up to the ball, close gaps, jockey, stand tackle, slide tackle, anything. I'm playing on world class and legendary and have tried default sliders and the community sliders here. I've also messed with the tactics, setting aggression to 100. Makes no difference.



The opposing team will tackle me like crazy, they are really aggressive and they slide tackle me all the time. I'd say opposing AI teams avg 2 yellows per game. They press, jockey, attempt tackles, etc. My AI defenders do NONE of this. All they do is what I'd describe as contain, just shadow their man and CONSTANTLY leave them 2 or 3 feet to maneuver, even in the box. If I don't constantly switch to usering a defender they will allow the opposition to stroll into the box and take a clean shot every possession.



Oddly, if I player lock to say a striker, then my defenders will tackle! But if I'm controlling the team the 10 guys that I'm not directly controlling at the time will NEVER tackle. It's kind of ruining the game for me.



Any suggestions?

Yeah, that's interesting u say when u player lock, they tackle. That tells me there's something in the code. Because, when I play online h2h, I feel the same way or see the same thing. I think the game, in general, wants YOU to make tackles. It doesn't want your AI 'robots' to make all the big tackles. They're just there to get into position. U need to switch at the right time and tackle at the right time. It can be somewhat frustrating, though. As I say, I only play h2h, and I can get totally screwed when switching sometimes. So, sometimes, u see your AI player in position and u expect him to do something, and if u switch, u might switch to the wrong player, or pull him out of position, lol, so I get stuck in those moments every game where I think your players will just get the ball themselves. But, they won't. ☹️


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[3ShowTime2]

Re: AI defensive tackling HELP!

Oddly, if I player lock to say a striker, then my defenders will tackle! But if I'm controlling the team the 10 guys that I'm not directly controlling at the time will NEVER tackle. It's kind of ruining the game for me.

I know what you mean and its pretty obvious I think.

Its because they want YOU to play and control the game instead of letting your ai teammates do the work. A soccer game would become pretty easy if you could just lock on and control uninvolved players every time in every situation and let your ai teammates do the work.

Instead the game brings your defenders into position so you can take over and then decide if want to tackle or something else.

[roll2tide]

Re: AI defensive tackling HELP!

I know what you mean and its pretty obvious I think.

Its because they want YOU to play and control the game instead of letting your ai teammates do the work. A soccer game would become pretty easy if you could just lock on and control uninvolved players every time in every situation and let your ai teammates do the work.

Instead the game brings your defenders into position so you can take over and then decide if want to tackle or something else.

I agree in a sense but a 90 rated defender should play the same across all modes with the lone exception of when I control him.

Parallel example: If I am usering the MLB in madden and a pass is thrown, the CB should play to his attributes if I don't switch to him and that's what he does.

I assume that if I am usering James Harden on defense in NBA Live and LBJ drives the lane then the Rockets defenders will play to their attributes and do not require me switching to them.

Why should soccer be an exception to this?

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Let's play Madden or Fifa!

[OhMrHanky]

Re: AI defensive tackling HELP!

I agree in a sense but a 90 rated defender should play the same across all modes with the lone exception of when I control him.

Parallel example: If I am usering the MLB in madden and a pass is thrown, the CB should play to his attributes if I don't switch to him and that's what he does.

I assume that if I am usering James Harden on defense in NBA Live and LBJ drives the lane then the Rockets defenders will play to their attributes and do not require me switching to them.

Why should soccer be an exception to this?

Be Good Or Be Gone
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GT roll2tide
Let's play Madden or Fifa!

And, on top of this, what's incredibly frustrating are opponents that take advantage of this. They run parallel to the penalty box edge, and it's tough to switch players defensively in that situation because u might turn into the wrong player and quickly tackle and give up a free kick or worse if he just stepped inside the penalty box. So, I find myself 'watching' my D players and expecting them to make that tackle because the O PLAYER IS THERE!!! JUST TACKLE HIM! JUST DO IT! If I try to switch, it's going to throw things off. Lol.

And, seriously, on a personal level, this is absolutely how I give up a large % of goals, and it kills me cause I don't play that way. I'm always trying to pass my way into a great scoring opportunity, and some of these guys just run parallel with Ronaldo knowing u can't touch him! Lol.

And, I understand that if AI defenders broke up every ball/pass near them, the game might not progress well, and/or scoring would be even more limited than it is now, so I admit, it's a tough spot for the developers. But, again, on a personal note, this truly is one of the most frustrating aspects of playing D. Everywhere else on the pitch, I'm ok with switching and tackling. But, when you're in your final third on or in the penalty box, it can be very difficult to switch and know which player u will become. And, watching a player walk right by 3 of your defenders where any one of them could/should've made a tackle just kind of sux. Lol.


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