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  • pedrito79
    Rookie
    • Dec 2016
    • 215

    #1

    Make REAL the Database of FIFA

    Hi Fifers today I would like to talk to you about the project I was referring to some time ago, more concretely, giving some examples to make you understand better.



    I could do 100 or maybe even 1000 so you understand how the fifa stats for some players are really ridiculous and made "ad muzzum". And to us who like football simulation it's like a kick in the lower parts.



    For those who know me from fifa 11 I switched from the console version to the PC because it was impossible to get fouls, in fact as you know in any football match in the world there are always more fouls than shots on goal, what cannot happen in the console version. In fifa PC during these years we have succeeded.



    Anyway, no more chatter









    As you can easily see from the photos, Romagnoli who did not miss a minute of play last year and the "stamina" value is too low. Moreover Romagnoli last year was one of the players to have a very high percentage of correct passes, he is close to 90. As you can see from the photo, he cannot have 70. Even in various games he made 100% correct passes.







    Suppose we play against Milan and we win due to a wrong pass by the Rossoneri defender, which is also trivial. Here there is no more realism because he probably would never have made that mistake. And so on.





    And believe me there are many players with wrong mistakes. First of all I could change the players of the main teams obviously many would have to change even the role, for example to Mertens to put the COC or to CAN put DC etc

    But it also and above all depends on whether it interests you. Because I repeat to you I am sick of tactics and personalization of the playere, if I don't see them that come close to reality even I play.
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  • Fifatas
    Rookie
    • Oct 2018
    • 298

    #2
    Re: Make REAL the Database of FIFA

    Originally posted by pedrito79
    Hi Fifers today I would like to talk to you about the project I was referring to some time ago, more concretely, giving some examples to make you understand better.







    I could do 100 or maybe even 1000 so you understand how the fifa stats for some players are really ridiculous and made "ad muzzum". And to us who like football simulation it's like a kick in the lower parts.







    For those who know me from fifa 11 I switched from the console version to the PC because it was impossible to get fouls, in fact as you know in any football match in the world there are always more fouls than shots on goal, what cannot happen in the console version. In fifa PC during these years we have succeeded.







    Anyway, no more chatter



















    As you can easily see from the photos, Romagnoli who did not miss a minute of play last year and the "stamina" value is too low. Moreover Romagnoli last year was one of the players to have a very high percentage of correct passes, he is close to 90. As you can see from the photo, he cannot have 70. Even in various games he made 100% correct passes.















    Suppose we play against Milan and we win due to a wrong pass by the Rossoneri defender, which is also trivial. Here there is no more realism because he probably would never have made that mistake. And so on.











    And believe me there are many players with wrong mistakes. First of all I could change the players of the main teams obviously many would have to change even the role, for example to Mertens to put the COC or to CAN put DC etc



    But it also and above all depends on whether it interests you. Because I repeat to you I am sick of tactics and personalization of the playere, if I don't see them that come close to reality even I play.


    Sorry but what do we do with this? Not sure what you are getting at. But I’m interested [emoji106]


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    • jrnlgrn
      Pro
      • Oct 2018
      • 3076

      #3
      Re: Make REAL the Database of FIFA

      Originally posted by Fifatas
      Sorry but what do we do with this? Not sure what you are getting at. But I’m interested [emoji106]
      I think he saying that FIFAs ratings are poor and don't properly reflect real life.
      "Listen son, you only have enough runs when you’re showering after a win."

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      • Fifatas
        Rookie
        • Oct 2018
        • 298

        #4
        Re: Make REAL the Database of FIFA

        Originally posted by jrnlgrn
        I think he saying that FIFAs ratings are poor and don't properly reflect real life.


        That’s what I sort of thought. I was thinking he maybe had a squad file to download. 🤙🏻


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        • 3304Life
          MVP
          • Sep 2016
          • 3002

          #5
          Re: Make REAL the Database of FIFA

          Attributes are representative though. A centre back doesn’t need high stamina because they don’t move much, unless you play with a high line and have to defend a lot.

          In terms of short passing too, that doesn’t have to be much higher because the short passing attribute doesn’t affect accuracy too much. The higher values for that attribute represent the ability to play passes into tighter spaces, which a central defender shouldn’t really be doing.

          I do agree that Fifa has some (many) issues with their database and there should be more ‘hidden’ attributes that affect certain facets of play, but I don’t take an issue with these ones.

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          • pedrito79
            Rookie
            • Dec 2016
            • 215

            #6
            Re: Make REAL the Database of FIFA

            In fifa 21 the stamina is more pronounced than in the previous fifa in fact if you notice it even the defenders get tired if they play 3 games a week.
            btw that of Romagnoli is just an example. I could give examples and many for example of players who in fifa have 50 in dribbling and then in reality are very strong and so on.
            Obviously for fifa pc it would be much easier to share the database. For console it is not possible so a manual and meticulous job should be done.
            Of course it is a long project (not feasible for all teams) but once completed we will have an even more simulated fifa.

            In this moment I am doing all tactics team of EFL ,and when I Examine the players I notice many difference.Btw if you are interesting I can do some videos.
            Last edited by pedrito79; 11-05-2020, 09:47 AM.
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            • 3304Life
              MVP
              • Sep 2016
              • 3002

              #7
              Re: Make REAL the Database of FIFA

              Originally posted by pedrito79
              In fifa 21 the stamina is more pronounced than in the previous fifa in fact if you notice it even the defenders get tired if they play 3 games a week.
              btw that of Romagnoli is just an example. I could give examples and many for example of players who in fifa have 50 in dribbling and then in reality are very strong and so on.
              Obviously for fifa pc it would be much easier to share the database. For console it is not possible so a manual and meticulous job should be done.
              Of course it is a long project (not feasible for all teams) but once completed we will have an even more simulated fifa.

              In this moment I am doing all tactics team of EFL ,and when I Examine the players I notice many difference.Btw if you are interesting I can do some videos.

              I would be interested in those videos. Having tactics set up for the AI team will make this game much better to play.

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              • pedrito79
                Rookie
                • Dec 2016
                • 215

                #8
                Re: Make REAL the Database of FIFA

                Already I have a thread about tactics.I did all the Premier League and for the weekend I hope finish EFL.

                https://forums.operationsports.com/f...l-systems.html
                Originally posted by 3304Life
                I would be interested in those videos. Having tactics set up for the AI team will make this game much better to play.
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