Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

[ltw0303cavs]

It's getting to the point that it they don't rip out a lot of the coding and rebuild the AI from the ground up its never going to get better

[CujoMatty]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

I'd like to see more as well.

The good news is I've had 3 penalties in 3 games and that's 3 more than I had in PES in 3 years. lol

[alex2202]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

For career mode, this is simply the worst edition of Fifa I have ever played.
I don't know, if it works for other modes of play. But for career mode, it is unplayable. There are so many things wrong with it, which make it unrealistic, it is a joke.

The suggested slider set makes it a little bit better, but this game cannot be saved by these changes.

I don't want to list all of the problems, but from the CPU always running the same undefendable plays, which would never work in real football to the midfielders on my own team, who look like they make a vertical run into an open space, and then stop all of a sudden, when I play a through pass into that space, to the center striker always either hiding behind defenders or running offsides, it looks just like this game has been developped and programmed by people who have never seen a real football game.

[aholbert32]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

I'd love to see more but I'm seeing some on next gen with Matt10's slider set and team sheet edits.

You could also always go the PC route where there are gameplay mods that significantly increase the fouls.

[TeeRex]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

I want to love this game! Animations are brilliant. The green grass on a sunny matchday, the Fan Choreos and all the ambiance, the immersion could be so complete. Dirty Jerseys from players, all great looking. One thing i always wanted to be good are the real time commentaries and banter during gameplay from the hosts and co's. The evolution from Fifa96 or France98 to here is frigging mind boggling. I like to play career Mode on Worldclass, and i like to hang in my Game Sofa relaxed, but i found myself soon sitting up in aggro Mode on the edge of the Sofa. I mean, after 50-100 hours of play, you usually have a steep learning curve and with sliders you can balance the game to a level which you can enjoy it but still have a challenge. But holy f... Is it just me, or does some1 encounter the following fine nuances while playing against the Computer? (i cant adapt to the word AI, cause this is far away from an intelligent opponent)


- When the AI tackles, it does feel more like a pass. As the ball usually travels nicely to the AI's team mate. The tackles are never wrong, never late, more or less always spot on.
- Air Balls, long Balls, Air 50-50. I somehow feel that the AIs player usually is better with taking down an air ball, or controlling a loose ball, is somehow always some frames ahead of me. When my player manages to control and get an air ball, it still happens that the AI snatches it miracolously away on hip high or with a nice spin
-Crowded fights midfield. When several players fighting for the ball within small space, i can shield the ball, trying to go for it, but somehow, the AI player is much quicker and has enormous flexibility to win balls in tight spaces
-50-50 Headers. When i miss a 50-50 fight for a ball. My recovery frames take much longer, same for when my player goes down, takes lots more frames to get back up while the AI does it with fantastic speed
-My tackling seems to be much more inefective. Ai players only gets to stumble but is able to control the ball. My tackled ball usually never goes to my player, direction of the tackle sometimes random
-Interceptions. I dont even want to start here. Baseline is that my general feel is that even if i play an average better team that i am never able to intercept passes, shots and slide into passing lanes on this very level.



Why do they do this????


Regards
T

[alex2202]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

but i found myself soon sitting up in aggro Mode on the edge of the Sofa.

This is exactly, what this game does to me as well.
I didn't quote all the details you added, but yes, yes and yes.
I could bring up about 20 more points which bring out aggro mode in me, probably the worst being that pressing CPU players can shoot and score, when it looks like my defender has control of the ball.

[ltw0303cavs]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

I think also the same way CPU attacks and defends leads to it. Pressing is just the CPU on Turbo running your players over and on attack the CPU never crosses...someone really needs to explain that to me

[voodoo_magic]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

We would see a few more fouls if the ref would just stop giving warnings.

[TeeRex]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

How do you guys time headers? Do you wait for your player to move to the correct spot and then press the button to hope the timing is right? i recently tend to try to press the buttons as early as possible with the desired power and it seems to work better, the player does move then to the spot, sometimes even moves in front of the opponent and wins. But it still feel random.

[nam4u]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

For career mode, this is simply the worst edition of Fifa I have ever played.
I don't know, if it works for other modes of play. But for career mode, it is unplayable. There are so many things wrong with it, which make it unrealistic, it is a joke.

The suggested slider set makes it a little bit better, but this game cannot be saved by these changes.

I don't want to list all of the problems, but from the CPU always running the same undefendable plays, which would never work in real football to the midfielders on my own team, who look like they make a vertical run into an open space, and then stop all of a sudden, when I play a through pass into that space, to the center striker always either hiding behind defenders or running offsides, it looks just like this game has been developped and programmed by people who have never seen a real football game.

I have to agree.. this is the worst FIFA edition in respect of where it should be considering the programming skills of 2020. The goalkeepers are a piece of **** , the crossing is not real at all, the running of the players.. well, like a hord of lemmings on drugs....it is basically a copy of FIFA 20... those gk where better... I regret buying this edition..

[nam4u]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

I have to agree.. this is the worst FIFA edition in respect of where it should be considering the programming skills of 2020. The goalkeepers are a piece of **** , the crossing is not real at all, the running of the players.. well, like a hord of lemmings on drugs....it is basically a copy of FIFA 20... those gk where better... I regret buying this edition..

EA: you messed it up.... nothing more to say..

[Mackrel829]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

EA: you messed it up.... nothing more to say..

If there's nothing more to say, why are you continuing the conversation by commenting on your own replies?

I'm also unsure why you're addressing EA directly. You know they're not reading your random forum posts right?

[nam4u]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

I want to love this game! Animations are brilliant. The green grass on a sunny matchday, the Fan Choreos and all the ambiance, the immersion could be so complete. Dirty Jerseys from players, all great looking. One thing i always wanted to be good are the real time commentaries and banter during gameplay from the hosts and co's. The evolution from Fifa96 or France98 to here is frigging mind boggling. I like to play career Mode on Worldclass, and i like to hang in my Game Sofa relaxed, but i found myself soon sitting up in aggro Mode on the edge of the Sofa. I mean, after 50-100 hours of play, you usually have a steep learning curve and with sliders you can balance the game to a level which you can enjoy it but still have a challenge. But holy f... Is it just me, or does some1 encounter the following fine nuances while playing against the Computer? (i cant adapt to the word AI, cause this is far away from an intelligent opponent)


- When the AI tackles, it does feel more like a pass. As the ball usually travels nicely to the AI's team mate. The tackles are never wrong, never late, more or less always spot on.
- Air Balls, long Balls, Air 50-50. I somehow feel that the AIs player usually is better with taking down an air ball, or controlling a loose ball, is somehow always some frames ahead of me. When my player manages to control and get an air ball, it still happens that the AI snatches it miracolously away on hip high or with a nice spin
-Crowded fights midfield. When several players fighting for the ball within small space, i can shield the ball, trying to go for it, but somehow, the AI player is much quicker and has enormous flexibility to win balls in tight spaces
-50-50 Headers. When i miss a 50-50 fight for a ball. My recovery frames take much longer, same for when my player goes down, takes lots more frames to get back up while the AI does it with fantastic speed
-My tackling seems to be much more inefective. Ai players only gets to stumble but is able to control the ball. My tackled ball usually never goes to my player, direction of the tackle sometimes random
-Interceptions. I dont even want to start here. Baseline is that my general feel is that even if i play an average better team that i am never able to intercept passes, shots and slide into passing lanes on this very level.



Why do they do this????


Regards
T

yes to all the points... and if they would fix the rotten goalkeepers, I could play WC as a carrer mode..But scoring 11 goals in one match ( half of the goals could have been saved by a normal goalkeeper remaining on his feet, instead fo falling to the ground like a shot zombie, not to mention the weak performance near post) is not what I want, and no, I don´t like the unplayable legend or ultimate.. and no, I don´t want manual controls...It would be fine giving us an update on the GK...EA, wake up

[alex2202]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

I don´t want manual controls...It would be fine giving us an update on the GK...EA, wake up

It is possible to improve the GK by using the sliders.
I have GK ability set to 65 ATM (maybe even 70, have to look that up) for both CPU and myself.
I also increased shot error sor CPU and player, with the rest of the sliders and other settings like described in the OS sliders thread, and I have found that this makes exactly the difference I was looking for. It doesn't fix the rest of the gameplay, but 3-3 is the highest score I have encountered so far, and the GKs don't look any better, but they do save the shots you would expect to be saved in real life.

This also almost completely stopped the ridiculous unrealistic near post goals.

[Cod]

Re: Will EA ever fix the lack of CPU fou!s ?

I thought the fouls, specifically how cards were handled, was great when the game was first released. However, over time, that went downhill and led us back to the 2020, 2019, etc. standards of yesteryear.

The reason for this is simple, EA makes updates based on what the Ultimate Team community wants. If the FUT players are upset because their best players are always getting cards, then they complain loudly. When the never ending stream of revenue complains, EA listens. All the same applies for influencers.

As hard as it is for me to do, I can't blame EA...they're a publicly traded company with a requirement to make money. Publicly traded development studios are bad for business (see CDPR, EA, Activision, etc.) whereas the privately owned studios continue to do well (Supergiant, etc.).