Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

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  • fideco
    Rookie
    • Sep 2015
    • 282

    #46
    Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

    Maybe i'm wrong, but the more I see videos of the beta, the more it seems to me that the cpu defense has become worse: they don't do the basic movements:
    no pressing, no tackling on ball carriers.
    I hope i have only seen outdated videos
    Difficult to evaluate improvements because users don't say the difficulty level and if they are using custom sliders.
    Any opinions?
    Last edited by fideco; 08-22-2021, 02:29 AM.

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    • sadler
      Pro
      • Sep 2017
      • 529

      #47
      Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

      I have the Beta on PS5.

      It's unplayable for me (I never use that term). Every team turns into Pep's Barcelona around your box and it's almost impossible to defend. It doesn't stop until they get a clear shot on goal. The defensive line drops so deep at times it's almost on your goal line playing the opposition onside. It's bizarre to see. Not enjoyable at all when you're playing. Oddly enough when you have the ball the game has improved massively, really enjoyable!

      When I've gone back to FIFA21 it feels sooo much better. If FIFA22 releases in this state it will be carnage. They have a lot to fix...

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      • k1ngofny
        Rookie
        • Sep 2018
        • 65

        #48
        Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

        I have a beta code as well. The CMs do a better job at tracking back than FIFA 21 for sure, but still not to the point where it's realistic. I feel like they could certainly expand so much on the defensive side of the game by expanding defensive instructions (such as for the CAM (or maybe even your 2nd striker) to man-mark the lone CDM) to shut him down.

        Instead when you tell your wingers to come back on defence, many times they will still stay forward and do nothing just because EA wants the game to be high scoring so that the casual players will have fun. The quick tactic "striker drop back" does nothing either unless you've already got three players on stay forward. Frustrating.

        I think it would be fair if the midfielders and wingers continually dropped back to the point where I can select them manually and press from behind myself. What really bothers me is when they refuse to drop back across an arbitrary line that's set way too high.

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        • jrnlgrn
          Pro
          • Oct 2018
          • 3076

          #49
          Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

          Originally posted by k1ngofny
          I think it would be fair if the midfielders and wingers continually dropped back to the point where I can select them manually and press from behind myself.
          Literally this!

          The "well you should switch defenders sooner" or "the AI shouldn't defend for you" is a tired reply to the complaint about the defenders.

          A) Most here are offline if we want to watch the computer defend who cares but really...
          B) Most don't want the AI to defend for them but to just be in a proper position that is realistic so we can take control when appropriate.

          If defending the wing and the attacker crosses it how in the world are we supposed to switch to the mid that's 5-10 yards off the ball and some how get them caught up and in position. Is the logic to leave the wing undefended for an easy cross and take control of the midfielder to leave the AI to "defend" the wing for us.
          "Listen son, you only have enough runs when you’re showering after a win."

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          • fideco
            Rookie
            • Sep 2015
            • 282

            #50
            Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

            An unexpected find: take a look...
            I wonder why so far, from what has been seen, the gameplay offline is worse than Fifa 21
            Still the offline feedback is the first on the list, the most popular.

            Last edited by fideco; 08-25-2021, 01:53 AM.

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            • KG
              Welcome Back
              • Sep 2005
              • 17583

              #51
              Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

              Originally posted by fideco
              An unexpected find: take a look...
              I wonder why so far, from what has been seen, the gameplay offline is worse than Fifa 21
              Still the offline feedback is the first on the list, the most popular.

              There's some good feedback on there from not only the offline crowd but also FUT people highlighting major issues with the gameplay. Now whether the devs listen and/or have time to implement it before the game releases is another thing.
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              • jrnlgrn
                Pro
                • Oct 2018
                • 3076

                #52
                Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                Originally posted by fideco
                An unexpected find: take a look...
                I wonder why so far, from what has been seen, the gameplay offline is worse than Fifa 21
                Still the offline feedback is the first on the list, the most popular.

                Quantity of offline feedback whether it be on a beta or the actual release has never been an issue. The fact is that the online base holds the sway over what really gets changed. The company already has the offline players money so words from those users are less important.

                I think the midfield thread from '21 had over a 100 replies within the first few weeks after release and not once did anyone from the company ever stepped foot in that thread and say what the deal was. That thread has steadily grown and still grows with nothing but silence from anyone at the company.




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                "Listen son, you only have enough runs when you’re showering after a win."

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                • ImmortalMindz
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 494

                  #53
                  Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                  Originally posted by jrnlgrn
                  Quantity of offline feedback whether it be on a beta or the actual release has never been an issue. The fact is that the online base holds the sway over what really gets changed. The company already has the offline players money so words from those users are less important.

                  I think the midfield thread from '21 had over a 100 replies within the first few weeks after release and not once did anyone from the company ever stepped foot in that thread and say what the deal was. That thread has steadily grown and still grows with nothing but silence from anyone at the company.




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                  Exactly this. Learned a long time ago that FIFA betas are a waste of time in terms of giving meaningful feedback. The beta for FIFA is just another part of the marketing machine and little else.

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                  • KG
                    Welcome Back
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 17583

                    #54
                    Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again...

                    I suspect that EA, or whoever’s job it is to navigate those forums feeds that information back to the dev team but at this point I think all they can do is fix bugs and sadly the midfield issue isn’t a bug, it’s a design choice.


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                    • fideco
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 282

                      #55
                      Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                      These are the notes at the bottom of the patch downloaded by a user on his Beta.
                      I'm getting more and more worried....2 and 3 are clearly inspired by the logic imposed by Sam Rivera: the game must be fun.
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                      1. Added some fixes to help lobbed through balls being overpowered
                      2. Adjusted the defensive shape in the final third to be slightly wider to create more space in the penalty area
                      3. Re-tuned the goalkeeper mostly on the higher attribute end to allow more goals


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                      • adoptedscouse
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 883

                        #56
                        Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again...

                        The defenders are now sliding in more with tackles which is good news, however they totally ruined this with the now dumb goalkeepers!!!!


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                        • PPerfect_CJ
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 3693

                          #57
                          Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                          Originally posted by fideco
                          These are the notes at the bottom of the patch downloaded by a user on his Beta.
                          I'm getting more and more worried....2 and 3 are clearly inspired by the logic imposed by Sam Rivera: the game must be fun.
                          -----------
                          1. Added some fixes to help lobbed through balls being overpowered
                          2. Adjusted the defensive shape in the final third to be slightly wider to create more space in the penalty area
                          3. Re-tuned the goalkeeper mostly on the higher attribute end to allow more goals


                          -------------------
                          Why do they insist on completely turning this game into FUT goal fests?!
                          #LFC
                          #ChiefsKingdom
                          #STLCards
                          #WeAreND

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                          • jrnlgrn
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2018
                            • 3076

                            #58
                            Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                            Originally posted by PPerfect_CJ
                            Why do they insist on completely turning this game into FUT goal fests?!
                            If you're not scoring you're not having "fun" as they keep saying in recent interviews. They've long since abandoned any pretence of wanting to simulate real football gameplay or tactics.

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                            Last edited by jrnlgrn; 08-26-2021, 03:46 PM.
                            "Listen son, you only have enough runs when you’re showering after a win."

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                            • fideco
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 282

                              #59
                              Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                              After the last patch (25/8 ), several users say that the gameplay has improved.
                              I myself have seen a video (FC Porto vs Benfica) where for the first time
                              the logic of the movements of the cpu both in defense (always well deployed and careful) and in attack (long throws and crosses ..) has improved.Midfield controlled quite well and thick, with some CM coming back (a bit late) to give density to the cpu defense...
                              Also no goleada... (1-0)
                              I report a comment from a user, but there are others who more or less say the same concepts.
                              Maybe things are changing.....???
                              ------------
                              26/98 EA has changed a lot of things and FIFA 22 is better with this patch. The lack of faults is always there but the global gameplay is far better.

                              Defense is the Key : each game I have now 3-4 occasions, before it was minimum 10! I confirm there is less space, marking is better and more agressive. I don't know if with default sliders it's the same.

                              GK are more human. They always make greats stops but you can beat them if you play good.
                              Yesterday evening, game speed was too high, this morning is perfect, always with my personnal sliders.

                              The game is more physic and AI finds clever passes and shoot angles it didn't do before that.

                              I haven't win one of my 9 matchs! I love that.
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                              Last edited by fideco; 08-27-2021, 04:39 AM.

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                              • 1860fan
                                Pro
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 696

                                #60
                                Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                                Hello fideco that sounds very good what you are describing, after the new beta patch you may have a link from the video Porto against Benfica would like to have a look at it ..

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