Gameply is awful

[Gee_Simpson]

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don't wory. If you liked fifa 23, you'll like eafc24.

Yeah I loved Fifa 23. I'm looking forward to trying it out, I actually played the beta and really enjoyed it so I'm hoping they haven't ruined it. Just going to play tomorrow, too late now.

[Fifatas]

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Honestly mate I believe this is the best football game there is. I brought a copy after my 10 hour trial.

It has a lot of depth and tactic that work. Game with matt's sliders plays really well.... All the talk about the defence not being good enough is true but I don't have any problems flicking to the player I need to defend.

My main gripe is that ea should be face scanning way more players than they do. Also should be more stadiums as well.

Yeah I loved Fifa 23. I'm looking forward to trying it out, I actually played the beta and really enjoyed it so I'm hoping they haven't ruined it. Just going to play tomorrow, too late now.

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[Gee_Simpson]

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Honestly mate I believe this is the best football game there is. I brought a copy after my 10 hour trial.

It has a lot of depth and tactic that work. Game with matt's sliders plays really well.... All the talk about the defence not being good enough is true but I don't have any problems flicking to the player I need to defend.

My main gripe is that ea should be face scanning way more players than they do. Also should be more stadiums as well.

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Nice, sounds good, looking forward to trying it tomorrow. Tbh in terms of defending I've been used to having to control the defenders for years, even in the most recent PES (21) you had to control your defenders if you wanted to defend properly. I don't really see the issue here.

I agree with you regarding the faces especially, they should be doing more in that area. Luckily I have chosen PC again so will be using face mods etc when they are released. Hopefully we get more official ones over the next few months too.

[PAPERNUT]

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I think we are all playing different games at this point. I am on the love it side and that is the first time I have said that for a FIFA game since like 19 or so. I have to wonder if there is a lot more going on under the hood such as all the assists/auto settings, tactics, and other things. It is certainly more than sliders effecting the game this year......

[MiracleMet718]

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Genuine question and not having a dig at anyone, but when people complain about AI defenders being terrible, are these players that don't always switch to the nearest defender whenever the ball moves around? I am always playing like this so find I'm not relying on AI defenders anyway (other than help defense), but I've just realized that maybe not everybody plays this way. Or is the complete more about how the AI defenders position themselves (tracking back etc.) before engaging with the attacker?

I switch defenders all the time, but the issue I have is that the game has been pushed to fast paced attacking football, so they want the defenders to not keep shape to open up opportunities to score rather than forcing you to find those opportunities. It seems like they test only with player vs player rather than against CPU because it’s probably the first year that I’m enjoying online significantly more than offline.

Like I said, for offline there is absolutely no midfield play and the AI just forces everything forward with quick ping pong passes or dribble moves. I end up winning all my games by score of 5-2 or 7-2 since it’s way to easy to score on legendary.

I’ll admit that I haven’t tried messing with sliders and doing so in 23 did help a little bit, but it’s nowhere close to the great, much more simulation-like gameplay in FIFA 15. It was a great balance of different play styles, build up and possession, and rewarding breaking down defenses (as well as the AI doing the same to you). If there wasn’t anything open, you could pass back to your CBs and regroup and try to break them down on the other side (I don’t think I’ve seen the AI ever pass back to a defender in the last few years). It actually gave PES a run for its money for gameplay back then (which is funny because eFootball/PES is terrible now). It was also so much more challenging and manual passing worked much better back then.

But just the lack of proper build up football and defending that ruins it for me. I’ll still play FIFA 15 for offline, but EAFC 24 will be mostly for pro clubs with my friends and FUT, until I get tired of it because I’m not a huge FUT fan.

[Gee_Simpson]

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@desouza7

What do you mean when you say manual passing worked better back then? In what way?

[hecbel]

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@desouza7

What do you mean when you say manual passing worked better back then? In what way?

I think I know what he means. In recent fifas, if you pay attention, passes aren't 100% manual. There is a little % that the player who gets the ball gets assisted. For example, when you cross into the area, if you previously pressed L1 for the striker to make a run, the cross will be better because the CPU knows who you are and is looking to pass the ball with a little bit of assist to help you.

[MiracleMet718]

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I think I know what he means. In recent fifas, if you pay attention, passes aren't 100% manual. There is a little % that the player who gets the ball gets assisted. For example, when you cross into the area, if you previously pressed L1 for the striker to make a run, the cross will be better because the CPU knows who you are and is looking to pass the ball with a little bit of assist to help you.

This is exactly it. Also you used to be able to pass in tight space on manual with little power and have the ball not move too far and it would go to the correct player. In the more recent versions it was impossible to do that since the ball would go a little too far, even if you just tapped the pass button and it was easier for the CPU to take the ball away in those situations since it would “lock on” to a different player than expected. It seems to get confused which player you are trying to pass too when there are multiple players of yours nearby.

I tried it out this year and it seems to be a better for those short passes, but still feels weird when it comes to having multiple players that are close to each other. I’m wondering if the precision passing has something to do with the improvement, but I hope it eventually gets back to how it was in 15.

[Freakywwe]

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I think we are all playing different games at this point. I am on the love it side and that is the first time I have said that for a FIFA game since like 19 or so. I have to wonder if there is a lot more going on under the hood such as all the assists/auto settings, tactics, and other things. It is certainly more than sliders effecting the game this year......

I'm hardly the one to talk as I am a casual fan at best of soccer but I agree, I haven't had this much fun in a FIFA game in quite a while, but I'll also be the first to admit nothing that's happening on my screen feels very "sim" like so if that's what you're looking for, I feel like you'll be disappointed

[PAPERNUT]

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I'm hardly the one to talk as I am a casual fan at best of soccer but I agree, I haven't had this much fun in a FIFA game in quite a while, but I'll also be the first to admit nothing that's happening on my screen feels very "sim" like so if that's what you're looking for, I feel like you'll be disappointed

No doubt. “Sim” died in footy games several years ago with Ultimate Team and Myclub. I do not see that changing anytime soon, so have to find enjoyment in some other way or move on. I am looking at things from a fun to play perspective and “real” in terms of the EA experience.

[Gee_Simpson]

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I think I know what he means. In recent fifas, if you pay attention, passes aren't 100% manual. There is a little % that the player who gets the ball gets assisted. For example, when you cross into the area, if you previously pressed L1 for the striker to make a run, the cross will be better because the CPU knows who you are and is looking to pass the ball with a little bit of assist to help you.

Damn, that's a shame. I wish it was 100% manual.

[MiracleMet718]

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No doubt. “Sim” died in footy games several years ago with Ultimate Team and Myclub. I do not see that changing anytime soon, so have to find enjoyment in some other way or move on. I am looking at things from a fun to play perspective and “real” in terms of the EA experience.

This is exactly why I play more Pro Clubs with my crew and occasionally FUT, but play older versions of the game like FIFA 15 for my offline/career mode.

I think I’d like the current offline modes more if the game was more challenging, but it’s way to easy to win on Legendary difficulty since the AI for the CPU opens up way too easy. But I’m having fun with pro clubs still and they def improved the mode for the AI defending and having them not totally crap the bed at all times (which was my biggest gripe the last few years).

[wkhalil]

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Honestly mate I believe this is the best football game there is. I brought a copy after my 10 hour trial.

It has a lot of depth and tactic that work. Game with matt's sliders plays really well.... All the talk about the defence not being good enough is true but I don't have any problems flicking to the player I need to defend.

My main gripe is that ea should be face scanning way more players than they do. Also should be more stadiums as well.

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I agree, the game is the best option at the moment. Content , level of editing you can do especially with sliders adjustments. I used Matt sliders and was very surprised that with how little changes in slider settings can transform the game.

[JayD]

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So I am using Matt10's sliders on default pace and I have to say, I am enjoying the gameplay now. Obvious improvements need to be made for marking and goalkeeping, but all in all, I'm having a blast now. Just need a patch to fix the excessive bugs in career mode.

[Gee_Simpson]

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So I am using Matt10's sliders on default pace and I have to say, I am enjoying the gameplay now. Obvious improvements need to be made for marking and goalkeeping, but all in all, I'm having a blast now. Just need a patch to fix the excessive bugs in career mode.

What bugs in career mode? I haven't played yet. Oh and btw, is it just me or do they always seem to introduce bugs in career mode at the start of every fifa game nowadays? It's pretty ridiculous.