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  • indiblue
    Banned
    • Nov 2013
    • 956

    #10711
    Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

    Originally posted by jamiec47
    No, the players job is to entertain fans. Tell me, do you really find it interesting to watch your team park the bus. Now, I'll agree, the teams job is also to win games and they deserve the title more than anyone. When they attack, they attack well and it is interesting. But you have to admit, you're team is boring. They play boring football, and it works, so credit to Mourinho. Everywhere he's been his team plays boring football. So, the people who call you boring, the fans, the ex-footballers, the pundits. They don't understand football?
    The highlighted part of your post explains why you aren't a football club manager/coach/owner. Players are paid to win. Entertainment is secondary. And as I mentioned, I'm not discussing this anymore. You can go ahead and look up ALL the matches for this season to find the answer yourself. I enjoy watching my team win games. As a Chelsea fan, I'm entertained when I see us win games and lift trophies. So I would say that's my players doing their jobs right.

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    • jamiec47
      Pro
      • May 2014
      • 920

      #10712
      Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

      Originally posted by indiblue
      As I mentioned, I'm not discussing this anymore. You can go ahead and look up ALL the matches for this season to find the answer yourself. I enjoy watching my team win games. As a Chelsea fan, I'm entertained when I see us win games and lift trophies. So I would say that's my players doing their jobs right.
      Woah man. I was just having a bit of banter, as was Simppu. It's just something that Chelsea fans will learn to live with, being called boring. It's the same thing as constantly having yourself taking the piss out for not winning a Premier League title. Slippy G! I respect your team and the players. Hazard is by far and away the best player in the league. You have 2 of the best keepers in the world and imo Terry is the best centre-back in the world. You play to your strengths. Plus, I am a teency bit jealous that you keep winning :P

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      • indiblue
        Banned
        • Nov 2013
        • 956

        #10713
        Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

        Originally posted by jamiec47
        Woah man. I was just having a bit of banter, as was Simppu. It's just something that Chelsea fans will learn to live with, being called boring. It's the same thing as constantly having yourself taking the piss out for not winning a Premier League title. Slippy G! I respect your team and the players. Hazard is by far and away the best player in the league. You have 2 of the best keepers in the world and imo Terry is the best centre-back in the world. You play to your strengths. Plus, I am a teency bit jealous that you keep winning :P
        Sorry, mate. Didn't mean for my reply to you to come off with any aggro. Simppu's post was childish, so my reply to his was definitely not in a kind tone, but I was simply debating with you. Sorry if it come across as angry. No, the truth is that no team goes through a whole season playing attractive football. Even Barcelona with their attack have had to play tight and hit teams on the break throughout this season. The 5-3 loss to Spurs and 4-2 to Bradford came after weeks of excellent, free-flowing football. Jose wanted to avoid us dropping points and losing the title like Liverpool did last season or United did three years ago, so he reverted to type. And you'll not find many Chelsea fans who have a problem with that, and we pay our players' salaries, so while other clubs' fans have a right to their opinions, they shouldn't expect those opinions to have any weight.

        Also, fair play to you for admitting that you're a bit jealous. Takes a big man to front up about that, and I have tremendous respect for you as a bloke after that. Your club enjoyed a tremendous run of success for years and years. It's our turn now, and one day, you'll be back at the top and we'll be back at the bottom. May not happen concurrently, but football is cyclic. You will win again someday.

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        • Simppu12
          MVP
          • Mar 2014
          • 1069

          #10714
          Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

          Originally posted by indiblue
          The highlighted part of your post explains why you aren't a football club manager/coach/owner. Players are paid to win. Entertainment is secondary. And as I mentioned, I'm not discussing this anymore. You can go ahead and look up ALL the matches for this season to find the answer yourself. I enjoy watching my team win games. As a Chelsea fan, I'm entertained when I see us win games and lift trophies. So I would say that's my players doing their jobs right.
          I don't think you're a manager/coach/owner, either :P I agree with Jamie on this one. Even though winning is very important in football pretty much everyone prefers the team to play football that's at least slightly entertaining. Parking the bus in the 20th minute doesn't fit in that category. Teams like Barca, Real and Bayern also win very often but they still play attractive and interesting football. If they can do it Chelsea can do it. Jorge Valdano is one example of football experts who do not like too defensive football.

          Originally posted by jamiec47
          You have 2 of the best keepers in the world and imo Terry is the best centre-back in the world. You play to your strengths. Plus, I am a teency bit jealous that you keep winning :P
          Keepers? Pretty much, I agree. Terry is the best centre back? I have to disagree on that one but we all have our opinions. I'm still glad to see that Terry is doing a wonderful job even at such a high age.

          Originally posted by indiblue
          Simppu's post was childish, so my reply to his was definitely not in a kind tone, but I was simply debating with you.
          Hey, see the little ":P" at the end of the post? It means that it's not that serious of a post. Also, there's nothing wrong with the players obeying their manager. It's Mourinho's fault that you play so defensively.
          -Simppu12-

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          • indiblue
            Banned
            • Nov 2013
            • 956

            #10715
            Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

            Originally posted by Simppu12
            I don't think you're a manager/coach/owner, either :P I agree with Jamie on this one. Even though winning is very important in football pretty much everyone prefers the team to play football that's at least slightly entertaining. Parking the bus in the 20th minute doesn't fit in that category. Teams like Barca, Real and Bayern also win very often but they still play attractive and interesting football. If they can do it Chelsea can do it. Jorge Valdano is one example of football experts who do not like too defensive football.
            Who is it you support?

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            • jamiec47
              Pro
              • May 2014
              • 920

              #10716
              Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

              Originally posted by indiblue
              Sorry, mate. Didn't mean for my reply to you to come off with any aggro. Simppu's post was childish, so my reply to his was definitely not in a kind tone, but I was simply debating with you. Sorry if it come across as angry. No, the truth is that no team goes through a whole season playing attractive football. Even Barcelona with their attack have had to play tight and hit teams on the break throughout this season. The 5-3 loss to Spurs and 4-2 to Bradford came after weeks of excellent, free-flowing football. Jose wanted to avoid us dropping points and losing the title like Liverpool did last season or United did three years ago, so he reverted to type. And you'll not find many Chelsea fans who have a problem with that, and we pay our players' salaries, so while other clubs' fans have a right to their opinions, they shouldn't expect those opinions to have any weight.

              Also, fair play to you for admitting that you're a bit jealous. Takes a big man to front up about that, and I have tremendous respect for you as a bloke after that. Your club enjoyed a tremendous run of success for years and years. It's our turn now, and one day, you'll be back at the top and we'll be back at the bottom. May not happen concurrently, but football is cyclic. You will win again someday.
              OK man. Yeah, just seemed a bit hostile in that response I agree with what you say, as I said, they're brilliant tactics. That was our downfall last season. We should have gone defensive against you. That way, no slip, title is ours, Suarez stays, world class players like Sanchez join, we're back in the title race for the second season. But unfortunately for us, Rodgers last season was too focused on attack.

              I hate being jealous, but it's true. You've got the money to attract the players, a solid defence and league titles. Well at least we've got a history dating further back than '03

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              • Simppu12
                MVP
                • Mar 2014
                • 1069

                #10717
                Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

                Originally posted by indiblue
                Who is it you support?
                Let's see. I support two clubs: the other one is -surprise, surprise- Hertha Berlin and the other one is Real Madrid. Why I support RM, you may wonder. It's a long story but basically it's because my dad used to work in Madrid and he started supporting them and it carried over in the family.
                -Simppu12-

                Playing at the moment: FIFA 17
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                • Simppu12
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1069

                  #10718
                  Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

                  Originally posted by jamiec47
                  OK man. Yeah, just seemed a bit hostile in that response I agree with what you say, as I said, they're brilliant tactics. That was our downfall last season. We should have gone defensive against you. That way, no slip, title is ours, Suarez stays, world class players like Sanchez join, we're back in the title race for the second season. But unfortunately for us, Rodgers last season was too focused on attack.
                  That's the beauty of football and destiny. Even if you had played defensively against Chelsea Gerrard could have always slipped. It was just meant to happen. The most ironic and funny thing imo is that he said "this will not f*cking slip" after some game few weeks earlier. I'm not sure if Suarez would've stayed but hey, it's not worth speculating anymore.
                  -Simppu12-

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                  • jamiec47
                    Pro
                    • May 2014
                    • 920

                    #10719
                    Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

                    Originally posted by Simppu12
                    That's the beauty of football and destiny. Even if you had played defensively against Chelsea Gerrard could have always slipped. It was just meant to happen. The most ironic and funny thing imo is that he said "this will not f*cking slip" after some game few weeks earlier. I'm not sure if Suarez would've stayed but hey, it's not worth speculating anymore.
                    He may have slipped, but we'd have had players back to defend rather than at the half way line.

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                    • indiblue
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 956

                      #10720
                      Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

                      Originally posted by jamiec47
                      OK man. Yeah, just seemed a bit hostile in that response I agree with what you say, as I said, they're brilliant tactics. That was our downfall last season. We should have gone defensive against you. That way, no slip, title is ours, Suarez stays, world class players like Sanchez join, we're back in the title race for the second season. But unfortunately for us, Rodgers last season was too focused on attack.

                      I hate being jealous, but it's true. You've got the money to attract the players, a solid defence and league titles. Well at least we've got a history dating further back than '03
                      Nah, didn't mean for it to be hostile at all. Apologies again for that, I can see why you thought that way. But yes, there are times when it looks like you need to play a bit more conservatively. Personally I feel Jose stopped our boys from going all out because he no longer had faith in Cahill, plus Oscar and Fabregas dried up after January. Credit to Cesc, he has put on another show since March, but Oscar has been useless since the new year as he always is. Don't know if that's fatigue or a loss of interest, but it needs sorting out. Personally I think he should be sold in order to sign someone who can give us more balance. I'd like to see Fabregas in the hole and a Pogba/Vidal/Marchisio type next to Matic, but Jose and Emenalo know better than I do. I'll leave it up to them to decide.

                      As for your point about Suarez, he'd have gone regardless. Barcelona was always his end target because his wife has family there, and nothing matters more to him than Sofia. As for signing world class players, that is something you will need to take up with the committee. Rodgers was a tw*t even when he was coaching our academy, and there's not a single coach at Chelsea or Reading who have a good word to say about him. This season is proof that Suarez made him look like a genius.

                      But I can see where the boring jibes come from, and while I think it's mostly down to selective memory or a way for people to mask their jealousy, I guess it's part of the way things are. But hell, the season we scored 103 goals I actually had Arsenal fans telling me that we were too cruel to the teams we beat by 4, 5 and 6 goal margins! I guess people will always find a reason to hate what they hate. I agree that we can play with the handbrake off more often, but only when we have complete balance in the team. People forget how Mourinho attacked nonstop the season Madrid won the league. He just needs to have balance and absolute faith in that balance, and until he finds something he can trust enough to play openly each game, he'll do what he must. And even then, he'll always do what has to be done for each individual game. I admire that about him and hope it never goes away.

                      And oi, again with the history! Do you not remember that we're the first team to win a European trophy? Must have.... slipped your mind.

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                      • indiblue
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 956

                        #10721
                        Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

                        Originally posted by Simppu12
                        Let's see. I support two clubs: the other one is -surprise, surprise- Hertha Berlin and the other one is Real Madrid. Why I support RM, you may wonder. It's a long story but basically it's because my dad used to work in Madrid and he started supporting them and it carried over in the family.
                        And how many Chelsea games have you watched this season?

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                        • Simppu12
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 1069

                          #10722
                          Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

                          Originally posted by indiblue
                          And how many Chelsea games have you watched this season?
                          The one against Arsenal, the first one against PSG and the first one against ManC. I don't watch that much English football.
                          -Simppu12-

                          Playing at the moment: FIFA 17
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                          • jamiec47
                            Pro
                            • May 2014
                            • 920

                            #10723
                            Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

                            Originally posted by indiblue
                            Nah, didn't mean for it to be hostile at all. Apologies again for that, I can see why you thought that way. But yes, there are times when it looks like you need to play a bit more conservatively. Personally I feel Jose stopped our boys from going all out because he no longer had faith in Cahill, plus Oscar and Fabregas dried up after January. Credit to Cesc, he has put on another show since March, but Oscar has been useless since the new year as he always is. Don't know if that's fatigue or a loss of interest, but it needs sorting out. Personally I think he should be sold in order to sign someone who can give us more balance. I'd like to see Fabregas in the hole and a Pogba/Vidal/Marchisio type next to Matic, but Jose and Emenalo know better than I do. I'll leave it up to them to decide.

                            As for your point about Suarez, he'd have gone regardless. Barcelona was always his end target because his wife has family there, and nothing matters more to him than Sofia. As for signing world class players, that is something you will need to take up with the committee. Rodgers was a tw*t even when he was coaching our academy, and there's not a single coach at Chelsea or Reading who have a good word to say about him. This season is proof that Suarez made him look like a genius.

                            But I can see where the boring jibes come from, and while I think it's mostly down to selective memory or a way for people to mask their jealousy, I guess it's part of the way things are. But hell, the season we scored 103 goals I actually had Arsenal fans telling me that we were too cruel to the teams we beat by 4, 5 and 6 goal margins! I guess people will always find a reason to hate what they hate. I agree that we can play with the handbrake off more often, but only when we have complete balance in the team. People forget how Mourinho attacked nonstop the season Madrid won the league. He just needs to have balance and absolute faith in that balance, and until he finds something he can trust enough to play openly each game, he'll do what he must. And even then, he'll always do what has to be done for each individual game. I admire that about him and hope it never goes away.

                            And oi, again with the history! Do you not remember that we're the first team to win a European trophy? Must have.... slipped your mind.
                            I agree with all your points, especially about Rodgers. I'm in the camp that says, I Klopp can come, get rid of Brendan. I just hope Sterling stays. It's like Man U are trying to give us 4th and we keeps saying, "No, you keep it. We're happy with Thursday nights on ITV4" Ridiculous. It's like Rodgers is playing us with small club mentality, and I don't like that at all! Granted, I wasn't alive when we last won the league but the first memory I have in football was staying up late when I was 6 years old to watch Liverpool win the Champions League! That was only 10 years ago and look where we are!

                            Alsp, no you weren't. Tottenham Hotspur were in 1963 winning the European Cup Winners Cup.

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                            • indiblue
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 956

                              #10724
                              Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

                              Originally posted by Simppu12
                              The one against Arsenal, the first one against PSG and the first one against ManC. I don't watch that much English football.
                              So let me get this straight. You watched three games of ours, yet you have enough knowledge to criticise the way we played over the course of an entire season?

                              Originally posted by jamiec47
                              I agree with all your points, especially about Rodgers. I'm in the camp that says, I Klopp can come, get rid of Brendan. I just hope Sterling stays. It's like Man U are trying to give us 4th and we keeps saying, "No, you keep it. We're happy with Thursday nights on ITV4" Ridiculous. It's like Rodgers is playing us with small club mentality, and I don't like that at all! Granted, I wasn't alive when we last won the league but the first memory I have in football was staying up late when I was 6 years old to watch Liverpool win the Champions League! That was only 10 years ago and look where we are!

                              Alsp, no you weren't. Tottenham Hotspur were in 1963 winning the European Cup Winners Cup.
                              Yeah, he's a bit daft at times. Also lacks self-confidence. But hell, that night in Istanbul is a fantastic way to get into the game. Mine was the 2000 FA Cup final, smashing contest.

                              And yes, I know Tottenham won before us. But that's a line many Chelsea fans use when fighting the no history claim. It's actually supposed to be that we won a European trophy before Liverpool, often gets turned into that...

                              Sarcasm doesn't do well over text.

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                              • Simppu12
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 1069

                                #10725
                                Re: How's Your FIFA Career Mode Going?

                                Originally posted by indiblue
                                So let me get this straight. You watched three games of ours, yet you have enough knowledge to criticise the way we played over the course of an entire season?
                                I don't think I said that Chelsea were boring over the course of the entire season. But from what I've seen and read on 1) social media and 2) various football sites they have been boring in 2015. Yes, I will criticise the way you play.

                                PS: What did the teams I support have to do with this?
                                -Simppu12-

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