FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

[Gnemi]

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I'm not talking about what I do, I'm talking about what my AI teammates do while defending. I don't like having to either take control of them within a split second or use teammate contain. It's too much micromanaging. EA just need to allow human players to take control of a single player while the rest of the team defends *capably* and according to player ratings. That's all I ask and in this year's FIFA, they totally failed IMO. Nonetheless, that issue bothers me 10% as much as the CPU pressure/tackling. If my AI teammates defended with the "pride" (Matt, /hi5!) that the CPU defends with, I'd be utterly thrilled. Instead, they act like they're on sedatives.

[fearwhatnow]

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Do me a favor bro, post a video of this big bursting issue, because last night Matt and I tried everything to recreate it, and I've tried this morning and cannot. Now of course, using a Gareth Bale on the wing he's going to run by a flat footed defender, but that's football, and it happens, but as long as the help arrives, which is does from what I've seen then we're good right?

Nope I watched the stream and you didn't try correctly to recreate it. Just take any midfielder (especially RM or LM) and start a straight run. Stop suddenly and in a second move diagonal inside. Stop again and change direction again with a diagonal move. You've already messed the whole cpu D. It's a confirmed exploit. The only way to fix this is to give a big speed advantage to cpu via the slider option. Or if you're on pc you can use the ini file and set the parameters there for cpu defending.

[jeffjr1980]

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These sliders are really good, the game is much better on world class, but i am getting the bursting issue, dont know if it is the sprint and accel or the marking value. In my last game i was Chelsea and i scored 3 goals with Hazard running from his own box going through the defense like a hot knife through butter, maybe its because he is just op but i felt like i could have scored 10 goals with him.

[Matt10]

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Damn, 3 pages already.

Let's remember one thing here, guys. This is considered a base - and it is there. If you see a consistent issue, make sure to post it - and let us know what specifically.

Something I've learned from Orion is that the changes do need to be subtle (except for line height) and tweaked from there. I mean, the thought of 45 shot speed baffled me - but it works nicely.

Jogging Animation:

Player is jogging too much - increase Speed value

Ballhogging CPU:

Increase Pass Error - CPU will tend to make bad passes and into space, also might dribble to get out of trouble more.

Increase Acceleration for User - doing this will allow the user enough time to recover from space given up - and force the CPU to make tough passes. Be careful, for realism sake, that the bursting or any other offensive advantages do not occur.

User Marking:

Think it looked pretty good with what we had last night. CPU marking was spot on as well. The defensive shape of both sides was intact for the most part.

Line Height:

Despite the line height where it is, the man marking takes over. So while it is high for a zonal system - it's not high for a man-marking system. This is why it's not easy to send balls over the top. I think this will take convincing, but if I could do it, I would have last night in my bout with 3-back Juve as Udinese...eventually losing 4-0 for all to see.

I'm not going to go crazy with tweaks, my CM starts today and these are the sliders. If you have little issues, reference these suggestions. I think we should take advantage to have this community thread to be able to come together with ideas and be constructive. Afterall, Orion and I are not customer service - and we aren't providing a service - we are showing the base of what we're working with - and if you figure out another tweak or fix, by all means, share it.

[Matt10]

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These sliders are really good, the game is much better on world class, but i am getting the bursting issue, dont know if it is the sprint and accel or the marking value. In my last game i was Chelsea and i scored 3 goals with Hazard running from his own box going through the defense like a hot knife through butter, maybe its because he is just op but i felt like i could have scored 10 goals with him.

Were defenders just looking at eachother or simply couldn't accelerate? I know what it looks like in my head, but basically they ignore the dribbler or simply seem to lag behind.

Did you try to increase ACC for both sides, just to see? What about marking lowered or raised?

I too am big on the burst - I absolutely hate it. I did not see it last night in my testing, honestly, and I really did try. I got fouled a couple times too. It's always good to see the CPU defender drop back into space and wait for the dribbler to come at him - that's the good sign.

[nunogomes]

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Im on a Career mode with Chelsea and im 28 games in. Im 3rd place, with 7 less points than 1st place City. So, its been a really good CM.

Now, my sliders are extremely similar to his ones except line height that i have lower (66), and the shot error is at 53/51. So, basically Orions sliders with these two personal preference differences.

I must say that the reason my CM reached 28 games is that it seemed obvious to me that this would be as good as it would get without changing team tactics to all teams, and i accepted this facts:

No slider adjustment will make the CPU take realistic outside shots, or even shoot when it should (they will ALWAYS pass up on GREAT opportunities.

No slider adjustement will make passing percentages from CPU go down to realistic levels. In world class difficulty, the CPU pass error above 58 makes all crosses bad, except the ones made by extremely good players.

And to me this two things are basically the biggest grip i have with the game... the speed burst and defending problems, etc... i think they are manageable.

Now, about that CPU pressure... everyone can make teir own players press like that, just up the team pressure and agression sliders in the team tactics (but then watch in horror your team always out of position defending).

And the line height so high really works against great teams, it recreates two great teams playing with a high line wanting to win. But when you see... West Bromwich for example, playing with a high line... it feels odd. So, i prefer a lower line height so that the teams own tactic gets more into a factor.

Three solutions for all this problems:

Suck it up and play the game with these (or very similar) sliders and accept the faults of the game.

Play Fifa 15 on PC with gameplay edits! It´s... it´s not even the same game really.

Close your eyes to the terrible graphics, animations, sounds, licenses of PES 15, and watch in delight how a REALLY good CPU A.I. plays!

[Gnemi]

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Three solutions for all this problems:

Suck it up and play the game with these (or very similar) sliders and accept the faults of the game.

Play Fifa 15 on PC with gameplay edits! It´s... it´s not even the same game really.

haha, both are so true. If you can't manipulate the game because you're not using a PC, then you just have to eat it. There is only so much you can do with sliders.

[jeffjr1980]

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The defenders just seemed to be letting him fly by and not trying to catch up, and they were not accelerating when they were beside him just jogging, it may just be Hazard because he is really op, he is probably the best player i have played with. I did give the cpu a 1 point bump in accel but he was still torching them, maybe i will play with marking to see if that works.

[Klinsi]

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Matt and Orion,
I agree with you guys.Fantastic sliders.I do not know actually but i even played professional and it is also cool.And also realized that whatever pass and shoot speed u apply for cpu,doesnt matter much.actually i enjoyed pro level much with these sliders.İ play full manual and i wanna be dominant in the game.when cpu is dominant,he doesnt have much chance to make mistake but i do.so it must be eaiser for me.it seems stupid when im with arsenal againist stoke or sunderland and they play dominant than me.i just realized something last night.when cpu attack and shoot,they scored %90.not much mistake.played milan againist rome.i did not like it.shouldnt be that perfect.camera angle,orion,loved 12-16.that really effects gameplay.guys who havent tried this angle,pls try and comment about sliders again.it seems slow and laggy when play far tele or tele broadcast but u can see every details when u play on this angle.default is also nice but not much usable.I play full manual except semi shoot cos i wanna score realistic goals.manual is not much realistic.45 shoot speed is great.That is all my feedback.thanks..

[Matt10]

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The defenders just seemed to be letting him fly by and not trying to catch up, and they were not accelerating when they were beside him just jogging, it may just be Hazard because he is really op, he is probably the best player i have played with. I did give the cpu a 1 point bump in accel but he was still torching them, maybe i will play with marking to see if that works.

Decerease CPU marking and increase CPU Sprint Speed. Let me know

[orion523]

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The defenders just seemed to be letting him fly by and not trying to catch up, and they were not accelerating when they were beside him just jogging, it may just be Hazard because he is really op, he is probably the best player i have played with. I did give the cpu a 1 point bump in accel but he was still torching them, maybe i will play with marking to see if that works.

Plus, you are playing with arguably one of the 3 or 4 best clubs in Europe, it SHOULD feel like you can dominate. Try it with Burnley.

[orion523]

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Nope I watched the stream and you didn't try correctly to recreate it. Just take any midfielder (especially RM or LM) and start a straight run. Stop suddenly and in a second move diagonal inside. Stop again and change direction again with a diagonal move. You've already messed the whole cpu D. It's a confirmed exploit. The only way to fix this is to give a big speed advantage to cpu via the slider option. Or if you're on pc you can use the ini file and set the parameters there for cpu defending.

Well all video games are going to have exploits, somewhere. If it is an exploit,well then it's a do I cheese or don't I. If sliders create the issue that's a different matter altogether.

[wordtobigbird]

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About to play some more, on Xbox One, so no gameplay edits for me and I still love this game.

I see people talk about this "bursting issue". So you want to completely negate the speed and acceleration ratings of the players? It sounds like in Madden when people say there is a "deep ball issue" because if you take a fast WR and throw it deep he will outrun a slower CB an catch the ball. Well.. that's the mathup. Chances are if Hazard in real life made that same run over and over it would work but you have to realize this is a video game and we are playing MUCH better than they would play in real life.

We have a HUGE camera angle advantage so we can see the whole pitch and make crazy passes that you would rarely see in real life. We can see defenders and the ball and make moves while seeing the next move that only the greats should be able to do. Back to Madden comparison, it's like the advantage of being able to see ALL your WRs at the same time. No NFL QB can do that, so in a way the game will never be full simulation unless they implement that disadvantage.

I also suggest people start posting some video evidence. Those of us lucky enough to be on X1/PS4/PC have very easy ways to record and share videos quickly. If we spend as much time as we don on this site it wouldnt hurt to SHOW these guys the issues if youre relying on them to fix it for you..

[Brahvocado]

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Hazard often has the highest successful take-on percentage in Europe, just gonna throw that out there. Most skilled midfielders have a take-on success rate of over 50 percent, just keep that in mind.

Obviously it's not optimal to be able to do this every time, but to be able to do it often IS technically realistic.

[Gnemi]

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Hazard often has the highest successful take-on percentage in Europe, just gonna throw that out there. Most skilled midfielders have a take-on success rate of over 50 percent, just keep that in mind.

Obviously it's not optimal to be able to do this every time, but to be able to do it often IS technically realistic.

Agreed. If you're going to talk about the so-called burst exploit, don't start your sentence with:

"I was running through the midfield with {Hazard} {Sanchez} {Robben}..."