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  • jfrost32
    Banned
    • Nov 2006
    • 982

    #751
    Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

    Originally posted by PrinceKasra
    I think EA sports has finally made me dislike soccer. I can't play online against all those cheap *** Madrid players. I can't play against the CPU ridiculous strength boost in CM and Ultimate Team mode is the least enjoyable mode. I am really waiting for these sliders but maybe we can't create a game where the CPU doesn't have the advantage and where we can actually enjoy playing and where our skills and performance indicate whether we win or lose.
    You mean where the ratings of the players actually matter? And we win or lose depending on the skill of our players against the cpu? For instance, Leicester city plays Chelsea Stamford bridge and you know winning is going to be tough, but you lose because Chelsea has the better players and are in form. Not because they ran over your defender or score because your dude didn't mark the only player in front of him.

    Ya its ea, good luck lol but I was watching matt last night and it seems like its getting close with these sliders. Though the overpowered strength of the cpu and the perfect tackles are just part of world class

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    • t0tten123
      Rookie
      • Oct 2012
      • 58

      #752
      Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

      Originally posted by Matt10
      Tested line length, played nice. Needs more testing. Please adjust with the Test Set.

      Marking 60/60
      Run Freq: 50/30
      Length: 34/33
      Width: 40/40
      FB: 100/100
      Hi Matt just tried these new setting works well but finding it to easy now in my second season with Spurs just beat palace 5-0 away last season they were my bogey team with old sliders played them 4 times drew 2 won 1 lost 1 and they were pretty hard to break down with these sliders could av won least 8/9-0 just about to play West Ham who I lost twice to last season I let u tho the out cone of that match loving the game a lot not was gunna give up on it but now it's taken over my life lol thanks again for the effort u av put in think I say this for everyone ur a genius and a God lol also I have played on tele broadcast but I find co-op is best it just feels so smooth and realistic
      https://www.youtube.com/user/Kidby1979

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      • Matt10
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2006
        • 16621

        #753
        Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

        Originally posted by coach422001
        I'll give these a try later today. I still don't like the speed =50. Animations seem like all players are on a combination of caffeine, speed and coke. I tried lowering speed to 40 and raising acc to 60 (trying to keep a total of 100). The animations looked better to me, and it 'seemed' like the CPU was dishing the ball off more quickly rather than running from sideline to sideline with it (take that with a huge grain of salt with a limited viewing thus far).

        I tried to see if setting the fullback instructions to 'overlap' vs a team set to normal. For grins I let the CPU play it out as Man U vs Man U. The side set to 'overlap' seemed to have a few more runs by Valencia. I may try a few games after trying the slider set where I set a team to all offense at all positions and one with everyone told to hang back. I did notice when 'overlap' Man U was up 2- 0 late, non-overlap Man U started playing long ball to get forward.

        Lastly I think there needs to be something in the 'shooting' tactic as we mentioned at least increase frequency of shots by CPU. I let India play Spain (using their default tactics for both clubs), and several times the India front men would get into the box 1 v 1 and dribble it out again. Game end nil-nil. I had tried shooting at 70 with 15 minute halves and had way too many shots, will try a few variations. I like to try the changes letting the CPU play itself so that my bad play doesn't interfere with the testing of these tactics.

        Interestingly was that Spain brought on Pedro, and he played the final 20 minutes in full warm up track suit. More interesting than that, one of their CB was also in full track suit sitting at midfield on an invisible bench. Never moved with the ball played around him. Wish I knew how to grab and post the screenshots. Apparently the Olympik Stadion has some kind of fancy stealth furniture technology!
        My hate for the jogging animation is the reason speed is @ 50. Most guys have hated it too, which is why we just left it.

        Regarding shooting by the CPU. It's addressed - and the CPU absolutely shoots on command. Are you playing with the exact settings as posted? The reason I ask is because on more than one occasion guys have given their input but haven't used the settings posted exactly. Last night's matches were filled with CPU shooting at will - including a bomb by a Watford players from 30 yards for a goal.

        Originally posted by jfrost32
        You mean where the ratings of the players actually matter? And we win or lose depending on the skill of our players against the cpu? For instance, Leicester city plays Chelsea Stamford bridge and you know winning is going to be tough, but you lose because Chelsea has the better players and are in form. Not because they ran over your defender or score because your dude didn't mark the only player in front of him.

        Ya its ea, good luck lol but I was watching matt last night and it seems like its getting close with these sliders. Though the overpowered strength of the cpu and the perfect tackles are just part of world class
        I'm not sure where this perfect CPU tackling is? They have the same right to get the ball in the same manner as I do. As I've mentioned a couple times on Twitch and on here, if you really want the CPU to be off with their tackles - lower the pass speed, as a test, to 5 - and you'll see they will have diffiuclty tracking the ball, and the ref will be more apt to call fouls. Of course the mentality of '5' is hard to get over for some, but I've enjoyed it in FIFA 14 - and the other night - so it's a really a matter of what you want to give up for realism.

        Originally posted by t0tten123
        Hi Matt just tried these new setting works well but finding it to easy now in my second season with Spurs just beat palace 5-0 away last season they were my bogey team with old sliders played them 4 times drew 2 won 1 lost 1 and they were pretty hard to break down with these sliders could av won least 8/9-0 just about to play West Ham who I lost twice to last season I let u tho the out cone of that match loving the game a lot not was gunna give up on it but now it's taken over my life lol thanks again for the effort u av put in think I say this for everyone ur a genius and a God lol also I have played on tele broadcast but I find co-op is best it just feels so smooth and realistic
        What part is easy? Please be specific. Thanks for trying them out.

        Guys, the modification to 34/33 line length, and fb positioning @ 100, resulted in the positives we were looking for:

        - Defensive players stay up on corners and set pieces (no retreating)
        - Defensive players support the attack, and are available for transition - including CPU clearances.

        I'm jumping on Twitch now, using the settings, going to look at some things.
        Youtube - subscribe!

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        • Matt10
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2006
          • 16621

          #754
          Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

          Live now:

          These are the exactly sliders being used, Width is the only thing I'm looking at to finalize this:

          11/15/14 - Test Set

          10-15 Mins, WC/Legendary, Slow/Normal, Any settings

          *I tested on Slow, manual all except for semi passing, legacy defending

          () = Legendary

          Sprint: 50/50
          Acc: 50/51(50)
          Shot Error: 52/50
          Pass Error: 53/60
          Shot Speed: 49/49 --- 11/14/14 (from 48/48)
          Pass Speed: 35/30 --- 11/14/14 (personal pref, from 30/30)
          Inj Freq: 63/63
          Inj Sev: 30/30
          GK: 46/46 --- 11/14/14 (from 65/65)
          Marking: 60/60 --- 11/15/14
          Run Freq: 50/30 --- 11/15/14 (from 50/50)
          Height: 63/63
          Length: 36/33 --- 11/15/14 (from 26/25)
          Width: 50/50
          FB: 100/100 --- 11/15/14 (from 52/52)
          FT: 65/65 --- 11/15/14 (from 85/85)

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          Last edited by Matt10; 11-15-2014, 01:44 PM.
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          • Trustpt
            Rookie
            • Jul 2009
            • 151

            #755
            Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

            Cheers Matt, I'm streaming my career mode with your sliders as well. Here it is if anyone wants to watch it:

            <iframe src="http://www.twitch.tv/angrymofo/embed" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" height="378" width="620"></iframe><a href="http://www.twitch.tv/angrymofo?tt_medium=live_embed&tt_content=text_lin k" style="padding:2px 0px 4px; display:block; width:345px; font-weight:normal; font-size:10px;text-decoration:underline;">Watch live video from AngryMofo on www.twitch.tv</a>

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            • PrinceKasra
              Rookie
              • Mar 2012
              • 96

              #756
              Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

              You are amazing Matt. I think EA need to fire all their game testers and put you as the lead developer lol. I'll be patient and see once you got the best sliders possible for this game. I honestly would enjoy testing but if only i had that extra time to. My AI on my team are not only letting the CPU at times run in and score but i see it all happening but i can't even select 3 guys to run them back. When the game wants me to lose im going to lose. Even when i select someone to run back the AI is moving him towards the CPU forward and my alteration makes my player slide and slow down with this animation that only happens when i have been winning in my CM and first in th league. Then the worst part is how my goalkeeper happens to punch the ball right to the CPU for an easy tap in goal where 5 or 6 of my players couldn't recover the ball even though they were all in the box defending. It is so dumb that i don't get mad anymore. I just can't play. I feel like as low as my skill is to the pros in Europe that i would play in a real game with my own body better than they do on my team lol.

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              • orion523
                All Star
                • Aug 2007
                • 6709

                #757
                Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

                The riddle has been solved, the quest is over. Using these sliders make me happy.

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                • Pat_Fenlons_Hibs
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 14

                  #758
                  Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

                  Princekasra has a good point

                  ive been fighting the script since fife 08 and have always dreamt of flying to vancouver and applying some script to the Devs face.

                  I just cant believe theres no one like Matt10 working over there who goes "hold up guys we cant release with this gameplay"

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                  • coach422001
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1492

                    #759
                    Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

                    I was running the Nov 14 set with these two changes: Speed =30 and CPU pass speed =35. I was also letting the CPU play out the games to see how things looked. I did see the FB up without having to instruct them so this is good. It may be the team I was using, West Ham and Chelsea. West Ham would go to great lengths to move the ball to the wings to cross rather than taking a swing directly. Playing 15 minute halves shot totals were in the range of 8-10 per side.

                    The reason I upped the pass speed was to see if they could get more passes right to feet rather than having to come back to it or wait for it. It seems a little better for me at the slightly higher setting. I've had a number of games at the 50 and 30 speed settings and it just seems that at 50 players just want to carry the ball too much IMHO. There's probably a spot between 30 and 50 that would be optimal for me.

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                    • jfrost32
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 982

                      #760
                      Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

                      Hey matt so after watching you play 4 games last night, I will try these sliders out to the T. But I wanted to ask while I'm playing what do you want me to look for? Or do you just want me to enjoy them?

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                      • jamesbeaver
                        Rookie
                        • May 2014
                        • 332

                        #761
                        Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

                        Originally posted by Matt10
                        Sprint: 50/50
                        Acc: 50/51(50)
                        Shot Error: 52/50
                        Pass Error: 53/60
                        Shot Speed: 49/49 --- 11/14/14 (from 48/48)
                        Pass Speed: 35/30 --- 11/14/14 (personal pref, from 30/30)
                        Inj Freq: 63/63
                        Inj Sev: 30/30
                        GK: 46/46 --- 11/14/14 (from 65/65)
                        Marking: 60/60 --- 11/15/14
                        Run Freq: 50/30 --- 11/15/14 (from 50/50)
                        Height: 63/63
                        Length: 36/33 --- 11/15/14 (from 26/25)
                        Width: 50/50
                        FB: 100/100 --- 11/15/14 (from 52/52)
                        FT: 65/65 --- 11/15/14 (from 85/85)
                        Guys, I have missed something in the development of these sliders. In manual shooting we have a considerable error rate due to our thumbs. Why is the shooting error for human higher than for the cpu?

                        Also, I hope an FT of 65 gives realistic first touches and keeps überdribbling at bay.
                        Playing with Community sliders V4 beta.
                        Full manual, legacy defending, slow, world class, 10 min halves.
                        Southampton career.

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                        • Fernand126
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 342

                          #762
                          Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

                          If I try the sliders on the demo, how far off will it be? Cuz I'm trying it right now.

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                          • Benja190782
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 149

                            #763
                            Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

                            I'm done! It's over - the passing is so broken that not even Matt or Orion can fix this mess with sliders!

                            OPTION 1:
                            If the CPU pass error is set between 65 and 85 the CPU actually plays and build up very realistic and much more like a human! In other words - the CPU and me feels like we're in the same boat when I'm on Manual or using Semi-passing.
                            But then the CPU can't cross... AT ALL! So this option makes the game extremely frustrating!

                            OPTION 2:
                            If the CPU pass error is set between 50 and 65 the CPU can actually cross!
                            But then teams like Leicester City and QPR can play tiki taka and one-two pass like only FC Bayern München and FC Barcelona should be able to.

                            The passing is broken and can't be fixed to a realistic point where the gameplay is enjoyable!
                            It's either sh*t... or more SH*T!

                            That's a fact!
                            Xbox One - FIFA 17 - Full Manual - 15 min. - Slow - Legendary!

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                            • FluffyTonka
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 1680

                              #764
                              Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

                              nah ... raise FT control to 85 and over & reduce pass speed for CPU to 30 (human 35) and I hardly ever see any tiki-taka with pass error on 58/58.

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                              • Benja190782
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 149

                                #765
                                Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

                                Originally posted by FluffyTonka
                                nah ... raise FT control to 85 and over & reduce pass speed for CPU to 30 (human 35) and I hardly ever see any tiki-taka with pass error on 58/58.

                                I'm already playing with that set, dude...
                                Xbox One - FIFA 17 - Full Manual - 15 min. - Slow - Legendary!

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