FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

[Sarezar]

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Good to see you, Stim

Sarezar - it's more so as you're already sprinting. So you can hold down sprint and cut inside, and veer across the bank, and back in, untouched.

I experimented this morning, threw some values together. Tested Analog Sprint Off, and some other things.

And, yes - I did test bursting, just watch the video.

In some ways, this video was by far the most realistic FIFA play I have seen. I think pass error will need a lot more testing. Would love to see how the top teams play with the setting at 70. First touch error certainly made it interesting, though I'm sure it's another setting that needs testing.

I understand what you mean by bursting but because it's not often successful (as seen in all the videos, including yours) and because it happens in real life, I don't see it as a problem. Still, some ideas to try:
- Would decreasing Marking instead of increasing it work in our favour against bursting?
- Is there a way to make it so that if you were to use bursting, you spend that player's stamina faster so that at least it takes something back?
- Maybe decreasing team width will cut the running lanes/areas down?

[Matt10]

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In some ways, this video was by far the most realistic FIFA play I have seen. I think pass error will need a lot more testing. Would love to see how the top teams play with the setting at 70. First touch error certainly made it interesting, though I'm sure it's another setting that needs testing.

I understand what you mean by bursting but because it's not often successful (as seen in all the videos, including yours) and because it happens in real life, I don't see it as a problem. Still, some ideas to try:
- Would decreasing Marking instead of increasing it work in our favour against bursting?
- Is there a way to make it so that if you were to use bursting, you spend that player's stamina faster so that at least it takes something back?
- Maybe decreasing team width will cut the running lanes/areas down?

I love your thinking, and can get on board with the mindset. Some of the questions can be answered, but depends on multiple values being addressed as a combo.

- Decreasing marking can work if it's paired up with the right Sprint/Acceleration and Line Length discrepancy.

- Stamina depletion/conservation is primarily based on the acceleration value. Lower acceleration = more stamina and higher acceleration = less stamina. The problem you run into is the very fast look of the game with a higher acceleration, or if it's too low you see little effect to players' fatigue levels.

- Decreasing team width would be relative to marking value. If you decrease it too much, with a lower marking, it could work, but it could also result in absent minded defending, or worse ADD (attention deficit defending). If marking is too high, then they'll try to mark too many players at once. From what I have seen, width may again be only for the offense, and not the defense. Similar to how it was when 1.05 patch came out in FIFA 16.

[Non Idoneo]

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I don't know about this bursting thing, I mean does it exist? It does, but, and this is my problem with it, you have to seek it out, you have to "try" to do it,and that for me makes it a cheese move, an exploit if you will, that is totally avoidable by simply playing football. Why waste our valuable time on fixing an exploit? Just don't do it!

Sorry man but an "exploit" is kick a corner with effect to sign a gol. But run and acceleration is the base of game, if the base is broken, the game is broken. What do you play this game if you don't run of acceleration to change the pass of your player?

It's one of the base of football.

This is a second year that EA dont't fix this. No excuse

[Matt10]

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I don't know about this bursting thing, I mean does it exist? It does, but, and this is my problem with it, you have to seek it out, you have to "try" to do it,and that for me makes it a cheese move, an exploit if you will, that is totally avoidable by simply playing football. Why waste our valuable time on fixing an exploit? Just don't do it!

This is a tough call, man. Bursting is a sign of other things not working right.

I personally feel like it's enemy #1, but it can still be addressed after other areas are solidified.

It's going to be another year of compromises, that should be expected. As someone who hates forcing house rules on myself, in any video game, I'll be focusing on fixing the bursting - just like last year - after a set is solidified.

[Sarezar]

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Matt, are your videos on Slow or Normal?

[Matt10]

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Matt, are your videos on Slow or Normal?

That one was actually on Normal. Was just curious if bursting was possible on it.

[Sarezar]

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That one was actually on Normal. Was just curious if bursting was possible on it.

OK that makes sense. I was wondering if it was me

[Lashley93]

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What exactly is bursting? Sorry, just not sure I know what it is

[kazemaky]

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Btw, you can balance stamina depletion of lower acceleration values by editing the .ini file. For example you want 10 min halves with lower acc. Put it on 8 min or so in the game, but change it in thr local ini or w/e it was. This way they balance each other out. You just have to find the best ingame value for half times.

[Sneaky Deaky]

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If you like to dribble like Messi, Ben Arfa, Cazorla, Mahrez or anyone like that, the burst exploit in a big problem.

I always like to have a dribbler on my teams that can create those moments of magic when you take on two or three guys and get through them and hit the perfect pass, or get a 1v1 with the keeper, but I feel like I'm just cheating with the burst glitch, which ruins a part of the sport I enjoy a lot.


I mean George Best is one of my favourite players ever, I feel dribbling is a beautiful aspect of football. (Not big into lots of "skill" moves though' just feints and using small bursts, so yeah, the "glitch" is a problem for me lol)

[orion523]

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Has anyone made EA aware of the issue on Twitter? If we can show them that yes this is a definite problem, with proof that is above and beyond the norm, then we may have a chance it gets fixed.

[Josam27o7]

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Has anyone made EA aware of the issue on Twitter? If we can show them that yes this is a definite problem, with proof that is above and beyond the norm, then we may have a chance it gets fixed.

If they didn't fix it in the Fifa 17 development cycle it ain't getting fixed.

Bursting is the worst bc it completely ruins the authenticity of dribbling past a defender bc the game is actually just giving it to you. Completely ruins the game.

[JimmyDeicide]

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What exactly is bursting? Sorry, just not sure I know what it is

You don't want to know. If you aren't seeing it play on!!!

(Gif of ref running with arms in front of him)

[FelaKuti]

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It's just taking the ball past players with dribbling/sprinting, and the AI is totally incapable of dealing with it. Just try holding sprint and running through the midfield, it's way too easy and kills the fun for me knowing I can get into dangerous positions essentially for free.

It's mostly because A) the pressing player either just gives up or zips forward with this stupid twitchy animation and gets left for dead and B) the second player doesn't cover properly. I don't think sliders can't address either of these issues, certainly not the first one. Maybe one of those cl.ini files could.

[Josam27o7]

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I don't know about this bursting thing, I mean does it exist? It does, but, and this is my problem with it, you have to seek it out, you have to "try" to do it,and that for me makes it a cheese move, an exploit if you will, that is totally avoidable by simply playing football. Why waste our valuable time on fixing an exploit? Just don't do it!

It definitely exists just in normal gameplay movements. If you lower the acceleration slider .... whenever you are face to face with a defender and try to dribble with pace by them the CPU can't handle it and just lets you go by. You don't need to seek it out... dribbling with pace is normal gameplay...


So, you are left with playing FIFA with a high acceleration setting (to combat bursting) which is tough to stomach bc the game is so fast then.


After hearing FIFA 17 still has bursting I didn't even waste my time downloading the EA access trial.