FIFA 18 Full Manual Realistic Sliders

[tinpanalley]

Re: FIFA 18 Full Manual Realistic Sliders

Interesting developments here. I've never bothered looking to the community for slider help because I don't believe one set of sliders can accomodate everyone in any game. But there are certain sliders that speak globally to just regular planet earth physics, and my observations of manic pace and constant forward push of the AI players in 18 have annoyed me when I've been playing PES which is much more tempered.
In FIFA, I've always played on the slowest possible setting and on Pro. Anything above and the game gets even more arcade than it already is and I don't prescribe to the ideology many people have that you don't get realism unless you play on the highest difficulty level in sports games.
I also have my running and sprinting speeds down a few notches.

Run Frequency: 0/0 (Yep. And there's still many runs, don't be fooled. RF is hyped in FIFA 18)

It's funny, this is one of those sliders you get in sports games, where you have a range of 0 to 100 but the actual range of the slider's control is actually more like 0-5.

[GaloVingador]

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I've never bothered looking to the community for slider help because I don't believe one set of sliders can accomodate everyone in any game.

This is true and the reason why I always make a set of my own, but the community helps a lot in giving directions.

I agree with what you said about difficulty to some extent. Pro seems to play more realistic than the difficulty levels above in FIFA 18, totally agree with that. But the game as a whole is an overpowered mess and it gets very easy to totally dominate Pro CPU for people who are mildly competent in the game. So in my case, the bump to Legendary is just because otherwise I would see no challenge, not particularly to make it "realistic".

[GaloVingador]

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I'm back into playing FIFA 18 a lot and in a serious case of slideritis.

Wasn't really feeling my set. Went back to Matt's and man, that plays so much better... The reason, I guessed: pace and pass speed. At 42 sprint and 46 pass speed, the ball feels soft, there's jogging animation in some players and overall it lacks "bite".

Wasn't too happy with line settings too. Every time I watched a game on TV I was like "man, my line settings are so wrong", lol. But this is a TOUGH thing to adjust, because some settings induce you and the CPU to play in particular ways (like always attacking on the flanks and things like that). The trick is finding a setting that is at the same time realistic compared to real world and which enables every style of play to be effective.

So I copied Matt's sprint speed and pass speed, and readjusted line settings from scratch.

Other changes:

Shot error to 48. Accuracy gets a bit hyped, but this is a way to make shots go a little stronger without having to resort to 51 shot speed (which imo is just too much). Shots and passes hold a bit more power the lower the error sliders are.

Pass error to 50. Kinda whatever. I just had a sequence of boring matches at 51 so I tried changing it to 50 and it worked like magic.

Injuries to "whatever". I can't get injury severity in this game. I saw a post from Liverpoolred with his stats from 380 games @ 3 severity with kinda severe results, then just for the sake of it I left frequency and severity sliders at default to see what happens and actually I ain't seeing nothing too out of the ordinary. So do whatever you wish here, I don't even think these sliders deserve too much thought.

Run frequency to 1. The actual frequency of runs at zero is okay to me, but players stutter too much when they go for it. 1 really seems to be the sweet spot.

First touch to 53. Dribbling is hard in this game (at least for someone as helpless with skill moves as me). Even harder on legendary. A lower FTE helps a bit, especially in tight spaces, as you'll have better balance right after you receive the ball.


Difficulty: Legendary
Half Lenght: 10 minutes
Game Speed: Slow
Controller settings: manual shooting, semi crossing, assisted everything else

Sprint Speed: 45
Acceleration: 50
Shot Error: 48
Pass Error: 50
Shot Speed: 50
Pass Speed: 48
Goalkeeper Ability: 46
Marking: 50
Run Frequency: 1
Line Height: 53
Line Lenght: 49
Line Width: 50
Fullback Positioning: 50
Power Bar: 50
First Touch: 53


Also changed my camera to Tele Broadcast, Height 18, Zoom 2

It might be a bit open, but I'm loving this set. Can compete with Legendary on level terms, and it's the longest I played FIFA 18 without thinking if I should change any setting, which is always a great sign.

[GaloVingador]

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For whoever came to this post because of the "full manual" in the title, it's just a matter of adjusting pass errors to your skill level. I myself would need an user pass error in the 40's and a cpu pass error over 80 to be able to compete with Legendary, but people used to it maybe wouldn't need that much.

[GaloVingador]

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This set is the nuts! I played the entire day with it, lots of friendlies with teams from different leagues and a couple of short tournaments. Very fluid, very balanced, so many great games... Nothing to change. Loving the game now.

I was finally able to definitely solve the very first balancing issue I noticed in FIFA 18, which was the tendency of CPU to miss shots at default shot error. They just weren't able to match my shot accuracy, it didn't matter if my shooting was assisted or not. As I have pointed before, the reduction in shot error seems to have a greater effect for the CPU, even if the user slider is reduced as well. At 48/48, at least on this set, it's all perfectly balanced here, even when I use assisted shooting.

FWIW, I believe the set is fine for manual or semi or any combination of these, or even lower difficulty levels, as long as you're used to play with any other set that doesn't give advantages to user or cpu.

Now I'm happy for real. Besides injuries, if I ever mess with them in the future, the sliders above are my final settings. I'm ready to start my career.

[villabraves]

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Difficulty: Legendary
Half Lenght: 10 minutes
Game Speed: Slow
Controller settings: manual shooting, semi crossing, assisted everything else

Sprint Speed: 45
Acceleration: 50
Shot Error: 48
Pass Error: 50
Shot Speed: 50
Pass Speed: 48
Goalkeeper Ability: 46
Marking: 50
Run Frequency: 1
Line Height: 53
Line Lenght: 49
Line Width: 50
Fullback Positioning: 50
Power Bar: 50
First Touch: 53[/b]


Also changed my camera to Tele Broadcast, Height 18, Zoom 2.

Decided to give these a go yesterday with all slider values as shown but on WC, 6 min halves, broadcast camera and semi shooting, all other settings as stated. Played about 10 games in my EPL tournament mode (playing every game, in week 28 currently). Have to say I quite like them. Had a variety of scores and even on 6 min halves it’s not overwhelmingly fast and there are still plenty of runs made and chances created. Going to carry on with these for a while and see if they continue how they have been playing. [emoji106]



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[GaloVingador]

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Glad you like it. I actually went back to assisted shooting, but any setting is fine as long as you feel the challenge is fair.

I'd only be concerned about low scores if playing 6 min halves. But if it works for you, that's great! In my experience, World Class plays a game a bit more open than Legendary, so maybe it isn't too bad at short half lenghts.

[villabraves]

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Glad you like it. I actually went back to assisted shooting, but any setting is fine as long as you feel the challenge is fair.

I'd only be concerned about low scores if playing 6 min halves. But if it works for you, that's great! In my experience, World Class plays a game a bit more open than Legendary, so maybe it isn't too bad at short half lenghts.

I’ve played 20 or so games now and had all possible scores from 0-0 to 3-2. Had a great game today in week 28, Man Utd 2-2 with Chelsea and had a couple of 3-0 too with Liverpool over West Ham and West Brom over Huddersfield. I’ve really enjoyed this set so far. Great job!


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[GaloVingador]

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Thanks, that's great!

[GaloVingador]

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I've uploaded a video of me playing as Man Utd using these sliders, simulating the upcoming FA Cup final against Chelsea.

I didn't play my best (as it seems to be the case every time I pick United). It serves as a good visual representation of how the game plays with the latest set though.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/s3RBj4iVBwY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[GaloVingador]

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After 16 rounds of my Bundesliga career, finding myself sitting at 2nd place with M'gladbach winning the last four games after struggling in the start of the season, I just realized muscle memory sat in and Legendary became too easy for me. I never thought I'd say that.

Ran some tests playing friendlies with evenly matched teams and the suspicion was confirmed.

Don't get me wrong, the sliders still hold up pretty well. It's just a matter of skill level.

I tried different alternatives to make the game harder:
- Semi passing: hated it, the errors feel totally random (unlike manual, that makes you miss even more but at least you know it's you). Frustrating.
- Broadcast camera: I still dominated possession and chance creation in the game I tried and I didn't like how shot placement becomes guesswork unless if shooting from the near side.
- Giving advantage to the CPU in pass error: small advantage was not enough. Bigger advantage made the game feel strange, like the physics in the CPU passes just weren't right.

At the end, what worked best was giving a couple of points of advantage to CPU in sprint speed. Games got more frantic, but I liked, it makes me feel in danger. And I switched to semi shooting. Shot accuracy if assisted is a bit too much, but this is fine fine tuning, really.


So I changed sprint speed to 45/47 and shot assistance to semi. Everything else remains the same. Not a mandatory change, just a suggestion to everyone everywhere in case the game feels easy and there's no higher difficulty level to climb to.

[GaloVingador]

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47 CPU sprint speed still hasn't got me there. So I increased it to 48, decreased 1 point in CPU pass error and the challenge looks far more balanced.

And now my set looks more and more like nothing but an adaptation of Matt's - which is a sign that Matt knows what he's doing, lol.


In case you lost track of what is the current set, here it goes.

Difficulty: Legendary
Half Lenght: 10 minutes
Game Speed: Slow
Controller settings: All default, except semi shot assistance

Sprint Speed: 45/48
Acceleration: 50/50
Shot Error: 48/48
Pass Error: 50/49
Shot Speed: 50/50
Pass Speed: 48/48
Injury Frequency: 50/50
Injury Severity: 50/50
Goalkeeper Ability: 46/46
Marking: 50/50
Run Frequency: 1/1
Line Height: 53/53
Line Lenght: 49/49
Line Width: 50/50
Fullback Positioning: 50/50
Power Bar: 50
First Touch: 53/53

[GaloVingador]

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Having settled on the settings above, I decided to restart my career. I was trying to overlook the small number of real stadiums at the Bundesliga, but seeing all those same generic managers on top of this was just too much. I hope the other big leagues get the same attention as the EPL in the future, right now they're kinda lacking.

I decided to go with Arsenal, being a team with which I can realistically hope for a Champions League title, but that's not qualified for it in the first season already.

Then I recorded this video from our game against Milan in the preseason tournament to showcase the new settings.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/zLOzH1bKqOI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Maybe you notice that this is a South American tournament but colors are normal, without that ugly greyish filter. If you're on PC, you can add this code to locale.ini on the "Data" folder and all those useless lightning filters that change according to the country of the match will be deactivated, thank me later.

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FORCE_REGIONALIZATION_COLOR = 0

(don't forget the empty brackets)

[RJK2]

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Having settled on the settings above, I decided to restart my career. I was trying to overlook the small number of real stadiums at the Bundesliga, but seeing all those same generic managers on top of this was just too much. I hope the other big leagues get the same attention as the EPL in the future, right now they're kinda lacking.

I decided to go with Arsenal, being a team with which I can realistically hope for a Champions League title, but that's not qualified for it in the first season already.

Then I recorded this video from our game against Milan in the preseason tournament to showcase the new settings.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/zLOzH1bKqOI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Maybe you notice that this is a South American tournament but colors are normal, without that ugly greyish filter. If you're on PC, you can add this code to locale.ini on the "Data" folder and all those useless lightning filters that change according to the country of the match will be deactivated, thank me later.


(don't forget the empty brackets)

Can it work with 15 minute halves?

[GaloVingador]

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With some adjust, I believe so. With the set as posted, scores will probably be too high. You can try higher marking (1 or two ticks up will make a great difference already) and/or higher GK ability (no need to go over 50, IMO).