PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

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  • Qb
    All Star
    • Mar 2003
    • 8797

    #271
    Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

    Gentlemen, let's keep the impressions thread to PES impressions as much as possible. Pretty please with sugar on top.

    Also, before anyone asks, perhaps this post can answer the inevitable "where can we compare?" questions:

    Originally posted by Qb
    As for comparing specific aspects of the games, I understand they are inevitable and I'm not against it, provided it is used for constructive purposes. Citing a well-executed aspect of one game as a way for the other to improve the same or similar part isn't really an issue. The trouble is when it goes beyond that and devolves into rhetoric without specific purpose other than claims of supremacy.

    However, we'd like to see the impressions threads devoid of talk about other games as much as possible. The idea is people are reading/posting in these threads to gain insight about that specific game. If we're in a thread about FIFA career mode and there is civil discussion which refers to strong points of ML as a way to improve, well, there's more leeway to be had.

    Capiche?
    If you have any questions, please PM me.

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    • kai123
      Rookie
      • Feb 2007
      • 439

      #272
      Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

      Originally posted by spartansocc12
      This game is great, BUT the computer still lacks the idea of keeping possession for the sake of keeping possession. For example, I was playing as rangers against Bayern and was able to keep the ball 65% of the time. Mind you this was on Top Player. This is simply unacceptable and unrealistic. Even if I was sitting on the ball, the computer should force me to pass into tight spaces until I lose the ball or find a scoring opportunity. Don't get me wrong the game is awesome, but this is still a glaring issue.

      It will be very frustrating to play against Barcelona with a far inferior team only for me to keep possession for the majority of the time.

      On top player this should NEVER happen.
      Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard that you are now able to unlock a higher difficulty than Top Player.

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      • ty5oke
        87%
        • Feb 2003
        • 2912

        #273
        Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

        Originally posted by kai123
        Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard that you are now able to unlock a higher difficulty than Top Player.
        Ya, there's a superstar level that can be unlocked this year.
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        • Whitesox
          Closet pyromaniac
          • Mar 2009
          • 5287

          #274
          Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

          How do penalties work, exactly? It didn't appear to me that you could even miss wide this year. Then, as I took Inter into a penalty shootout playing as Chelsea, it went down to the final kick. (Funnily enough) Terry steps up, and completely shanks it. The power meter wasn't too far, it just seemed completely arbitrary. Then their guy steps up and does the same thing.
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          • peigone
            Banned
            • Jun 2010
            • 1050

            #275
            Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

            Originally posted by Whitesox
            The power meter wasn't too far, it just seemed completely arbitrary. Then their guy steps up and does the same thing.
            One of the complaints about PES 2011 was that shooting felt too arbitrary at times as you said. As I understand it, the issue is that the shot accuracy ratings, rather than where you aim, play too big a role in determining whether the shot goes where you want it to go.

            One of the first things I edited in PES 2011 were the shot technique ratings. I globally raised them by 10% as I felt too many top players had the tendency to miss the net. That one edit pretty much changed the whole game for me, improving it to the point where I didn't bother tinkering with shot accuracy or any other shot ratings.
            Last edited by peigone; 09-21-2011, 03:55 PM.

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            • spartansocc12
              Rookie
              • Aug 2002
              • 238

              #276
              Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

              If the higher difficulty results in the computer turning into super AI then this is not going to work out all that well.

              I want a challenge in keeping possession as well as retrieving it. You would think that the possession preset would push the computer AI to hold the ball while moving it around the pitch. This again is simply not the case. They are always looking to score as soon as possible.

              Will Konami read and fix this is the question?

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              • rckabillyRaider
                MVP
                • Jul 2008
                • 4382

                #277
                Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                arrghh. I called one of my other spots today and she said her distributor had it today when she went but she didn't pick it up because she didn't have any requests for it. Should have called her yesterday. Now she isn't going until Friday again. Damn.

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                • cookusu
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1685

                  #278
                  Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                  Originally posted by Whitesox
                  How do penalties work, exactly? It didn't appear to me that you could even miss wide this year. Then, as I took Inter into a penalty shootout playing as Chelsea, it went down to the final kick. (Funnily enough) Terry steps up, and completely shanks it. The power meter wasn't too far, it just seemed completely arbitrary. Then their guy steps up and does the same thing.
                  You can read the exact directions in the command list in the gameplay menus, but assuming you use the L stick to aim your shots that's what you use to aim, less pressure on X keeps the ball low and more puts it high. I haven't had enough attempts to say, but Terry has a strong leg but not necessarily accurate so that could have played into the result too.

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                  • NYJetsfan
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 926

                    #279
                    Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                    Really loving this demo. I've never owned a PES title, anything I should know, either gameplay wise and/or extras that are must haves/dos?

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                    • PeruvianPlaya954
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1463

                      #280
                      Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                      Originally posted by NYJetsfan
                      Really loving this demo. I've never owned a PES title, anything I should know, either gameplay wise and/or extras that are must haves/dos?
                      Must download and have some sort of option file.

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                      • cookusu
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1685

                        #281
                        Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                        Originally posted by NYJetsfan
                        Really loving this demo. I've never owned a PES title, anything I should know, either gameplay wise and/or extras that are must haves/dos?
                        Playing the Master league is what keeps me addicted, I like signing and watching my players grow into a solid team.

                        The option files can be cool if you want realistic uniforms for the English Premier league, you can actually edit that yourself if you want but saves time if someone else does it for you. On the PC people do all kind of mods, I play on the 360 mostly and just used an option file for uniforms and extra stadiums.

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                        • XFactah416
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1708

                          #282
                          Re: 2nd Demo Available on X360 and PS3 Soon?

                          If you're on 360, after you finish a game, is there a way to get out of the like 10 minute feature thing they have when you try to go back to play another game?

                          It's pretty annoying and I don't know how to skip that screen that highlights all of PES's new stuff.

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                          • rckabillyRaider
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 4382

                            #283
                            Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                            Just paid for my game at one of my spots. Picking it up tomorrow after work. $5 cheaper than retail too. Fifa and pes....gonna be a good weekend.

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                            • ezio
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 2853

                              #284
                              Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                              Originally posted by rckabillyRaider
                              Just paid for my game at one of my spots. Picking it up tomorrow after work. $5 cheaper than retail too. Fifa and pes....gonna be a good weekend.
                              Looking foward to impressions on both games

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                              • rckabillyRaider
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 4382

                                #285
                                Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                                Originally posted by ezio
                                Looking foward to impressions on both games

                                For sure man. One of the first things I wanna do is watch a cpu vs cpu game but with all their tactics set to Possession. I wanna see if they do indeed maintain possession and slowly build up vs the gun ho attack (which I really don't see much, TBH)

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