Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Originally posted by RoyceDa59
Sounds awesome I hope it is true I feel like the demo is more than playable at the moment.
Make the ball a bit heavier ala yair's patch and the game is good to go. There are certainly other issues with some areas of the game. But IMO they're a result of limitations with the game itself, and aren't anything that can actually be fixed via minor tweaking.
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Originally posted by Yeats
Make the ball a bit heavier ala yair's patch and the game is good to go. There are certainly other issues with some areas of the game. But IMO they're a result of limitations with the game itself, and aren't anything that can actually be fixed via minor tweaking.
You are right those could be fixed also player switching seems weird sometimes, Also I haven't tried Yair's patch yet how is it?
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Originally posted by RoyceDa59
You are right those could be fixed also player switching seems weird sometimes, Also I haven't tried Yair's patch yet how is it?
Ball weight is adjusted (slightly heavier) and is near perfect IMO. He also says he removed all scripting. I know he did that with PES 2011 because I used his patch and it was like night and day, he saved that game for me. I've played a few games on SS and haven't seen anything resembling scripting, so I'd say he accomplished what he claims. Only thing is I have nothing to compare that to as I haven't played the demo without his patch, and some people are saying the scripting was toned way down anyway. He also worked on fixing the issue with player switching, but I play with a fixed cursor so whatever the issue is doesn't affect me.
BTW, his last update doesn't work for me, it crashed the game. He's left the Evo-Web forum for a while and nobody knows if or when he plans on fixing it. Use his earlier patch if you have the same issues I had, that one works fine.
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Originally posted by RLaguna
please explain what you mean by removing all scripting?.....what is scripting as it pertains to PES?
Every sports game has some kind of momentum/confidence coding. FIFA has game coding that gives a momentum advantage to either team at various stages of the match depending on morale and score, as well as home vs away advantages.
PES has scripts that affect online play, giving an advantage to one team over another in order to keep things fair. I don't play online so I don't know anything about it other than from discussions I've read on sites like PESFan.
In the past, the offline game suffered from noticable rating-boost imbalances and issues, depending on the difficulty level one played on. An example from PES 2011: at random times my CPU-controlled teammates would play terribly. They wouldn't just muff tackling assignments, they would turn and run in the opposite direction as the CPU attacker approached, leaving a wide-open lane for the CPU to move in and shoot. It was as if their response or defense awareness ratings were suddenly and dramatically reduced.
The Konami devs have admitted they've used scritping in the game to keep it interesting. Apparently they took note of peoples' negative feedback the past couple of years and have talked about reducing the scripting in the game, and may well have for PES 2013.
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Originally posted by Yeats
Every sports game has some kind of momentum/confidence coding. FIFA has game coding that gives a momentum advantage to either team at various stages of the match depending on morale and score, as well as home vs away advantages.
PES has scripts that affect online play, giving an advantage to one team over another in order to keep things fair. I don't play online so I don't know anything about it other than from discussions I've read on sites like PESFan.
In the past, the offline game suffered from noticable rating-boost imbalances and issues, depending on the difficulty level one played on. An example from PES 2011: at random times my CPU-controlled teammates would play terribly. They wouldn't just muff tackling assignments, they would turn and run in the opposite direction as the CPU attacker approached, leaving a wide-open lane for the CPU to move in and shoot. It was as if their response or defense awareness ratings were suddenly and dramatically reduced.
The Konami devs have admitted they've used scritping in the game to keep it interesting. Apparently they took note of peoples' negative feedback the past couple of years and have talked about reducing the scripting in the game, and may well have for PES 2013.
So far in the demo it does not seem as scripted but then again it was always more noticeable in the Master League so I think we have to wait for the full game to know for sure.
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
If PES comes out before FIFA I might buy both. I've been a PES diehard since Winning Eleven 9, but the scripting in last year's Master League was infuriating. Take the lead, change your team into a 5-4-1 defense and watching your defenders charge ahead ignoring the strikers.
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Scripting... this is the major thing I hope gets fixed. I just couldn't finish my Master League mode with the level of scripting. In the Demo I have played very satisfying games and scored first, only to have the AI overpower itself to a 2 goal win in the last 5minutes. Besides that I really like the demo.
Looking forward to the next demo and happy to know this will release earlier than fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Originally posted by wjmooner
If PES comes out before FIFA I might buy both. I've been a PES diehard since Winning Eleven 9, but the scripting in last year's Master League was infuriating. Take the lead, change your team into a 5-4-1 defense and watching your defenders charge ahead ignoring the strikers.
Originally posted by El Niche
Scripting... this is the major thing I hope gets fixed. I just couldn't finish my Master League mode with the level of scripting. In the Demo I have played very satisfying games and scored first, only to have the AI overpower itself to a 2 goal win in the last 5minutes. Besides that I really like the demo.
Looking forward to the next demo and happy to know this will release earlier than fifa
Gents,
In your limited time with the demo, do you feel that scripting is improved this year? I find the AI teammates more intelligent so less scripting when holding a lead. It feels more like the in-game strategy adjustments actually work whereby changes are immediately reflected in gameplay.
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Re: Rumour that PES may Release 2 Weeks before Fifa
Originally posted by Randiesel75
Gents,
In your limited time with the demo, do you feel that scripting is improved this year? I find the AI teammates more intelligent so less scripting when holding a lead. It feels more like the in-game strategy adjustments actually work whereby changes are immediately reflected in gameplay.
Its been toned down and not as bad as 2012. But its still there. Yes ive made tactical changes and still know when the ai wants to score. I think konami wanted to keep games competitive but its BS how overpowered the ai feels after you go up on the score. At least this is what happens to me...
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