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  • Matt10
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    • Apr 2006
    • 16624

    #106
    Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

    I've changed two values from the default gameplay. Results aren't too shabby so far:

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    • tv25man
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      • Aug 2004
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      #107
      Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

      Pressing and compactness?

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      • Matt10
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        • Apr 2006
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        #108
        Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

        Originally posted by tv25man
        Pressing and compactness?
        Nope!

        It is a global editor for the players:

        Attack Awareness = 3

        and

        Tenacity = 80-99
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        • bwiggy33
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          • Jul 2006
          • 2003

          #109
          Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

          So Matt what attributes/tactic sliders are you using now?

          I know before you had changed those three tactic sliders to max, which I have been using. Have you changed anything since then? I'm just trying to make this game play out as real to life as possible. I'm only on XBOX so I don't have the option of mass editing or mods but I'm waiting for Daymos' V3 option file to come out so I can edit the sliders or player attributes so I can start my Master League. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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          • Matt10
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            • Apr 2006
            • 16624

            #110
            Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

            Originally posted by bwiggy33
            So Matt what attributes/tactic sliders are you using now?

            I know before you had changed those three tactic sliders to max, which I have been using. Have you changed anything since then? I'm just trying to make this game play out as real to life as possible. I'm only on XBOX so I don't have the option of mass editing or mods but I'm waiting for Daymos' V3 option file to come out so I can edit the sliders or player attributes so I can start my Master League. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
            bwiggy, you could get away with just changing those two values (above) and you'll have an incredible game.

            Since you're on console, that is what I would recommend, until there is a global editor released -which I have no idea anyone is working on for the consoles.

            I have worked with nenadmc on here, he is incredibly strong in his knowledge of global editing also - and we've been using his option file. it's incredible and he has a lot of documentation.

            Within this thread and evo web, I plan on making a new video that is going to compare default gameplay, global edit tactic gameplay, 2 value edited gameplay and then the entire put together plus more. There are sooooo many things that can be done, and it's not like FIFA 13 where no matter what you do - the players animations are still super fast, and the CPU seems to have the agility of elastic man.
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            • miketheslummy
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              • Sep 2004
              • 80

              #111
              Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

              I'm waiting for compared videos too.
              I'm planning something big about custom tactics.
              My idea is : I want every team has its custom tactics in the game. It will be an hard job but I want to put all my knowledge into the game.
              I edited database for PES in 2011 in the italian community with amazing results but then I was disappointed by 2012. Now we have again a decent game.

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              • Matt10
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                • Apr 2006
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                #112
                Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                Originally posted by miketheslummy
                I'm waiting for compared videos too.
                I'm planning something big about custom tactics.
                My idea is : I want every team has its custom tactics in the game. It will be an hard job but I want to put all my knowledge into the game.
                I edited database for PES in 2011 in the italian community with amazing results but then I was disappointed by 2012. Now we have again a decent game.
                I like the idea, and I think a lot of patch editors (PES EDIT, etc) are trying to go for that even more. It's a matter of finding the balance of editing player values versus editing global tactics. The thing about global tactics that they do not "stick" in Football Life modes. I am still testing some values to verify this though.
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                • sancho_cap
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1

                  #113
                  Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                  Hi everybody,
                  i'm new in this forum but i've read all the post.
                  Matt could you post the complete list of editing that you've used in the match juventus-udinese.
                  are you still using jenkey gameplay? if yes which values are you using?
                  Are this the global edit in that video:
                  pressing=100
                  difensive line=100
                  compactness=100

                  attack value=3
                  tenacity between 80 and 99

                  sorry for my bad english and thanks a lot for your work, i'm insane for soccer realism and i really appreciate your job.

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                  • miketheslummy
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                    • Sep 2004
                    • 80

                    #114
                    Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                    In time, I will posto my job about tactics
                    Then we should try to integrate both jobs !
                    But It will take some time to me...

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                    • Matt10
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                      • Apr 2006
                      • 16624

                      #115
                      Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                      Originally posted by sancho_cap
                      Hi everybody,
                      i'm new in this forum but i've read all the post.
                      Matt could you post the complete list of editing that you've used in the match juventus-udinese.
                      are you still using jenkey gameplay? if yes which values are you using?
                      Are this the global edit in that video:
                      pressing=100
                      difensive line=100
                      compactness=100

                      attack value=3
                      tenacity between 80 and 99

                      sorry for my bad english and thanks a lot for your work, i'm insane for soccer realism and i really appreciate your job.
                      You got it. Remember those are just values to see the difference, from there it's about what you want to tweak> i would say globally between 70-100. remember you want teams to play with variety and look different than others.

                      mike - definitely, man. Looking forward to it. Check out this thread on evo-web in the meantime, it's getting into some good discussions.

                      http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=69196
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                      • senhorxxx
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 22

                        #116
                        Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                        Originally posted by Matt10
                        Here is the most recent video. It is reflecting defensive line @ 100 (high). I kept everything that is on the front page. Amazing what a difference having defensive line puts it at. What is funny is that it doesn't even have that high of a line because by default the CBs retreat, breaking that line no matter what, with a high line - at least the retreat is compensated, making it look more realistic. Notice also how great the CPU keeps possession and still goes for the dagger

                        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EwsfFBkpIKY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                        Good job, Matt.
                        But I do like to play with this camera and these graphics ?
                        Here, I put everything on max including the nVidia drivers and the picture does not seem to stay put in the video.
                        And the camera in the video (seems to be a broadcast with less zoom) does not have in my game. Some patch camera?

                        Thank you.

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                        • niharjhatn
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                          • Dec 2009
                          • 130

                          #117
                          Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                          Hey Matt, just wondering what sort of values are you using now?

                          Do you still prefer just editing the two values or are you using some tactic edits as well?

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                          • Matt10
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                            • Apr 2006
                            • 16624

                            #118
                            Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                            Originally posted by senhorxxx
                            Good job, Matt.
                            But I do like to play with this camera and these graphics ?
                            Here, I put everything on max including the nVidia drivers and the picture does not seem to stay put in the video.
                            And the camera in the video (seems to be a broadcast with less zoom) does not have in my game. Some patch camera?

                            Thank you.
                            What is going on with you picture anyways? As far as the camera, I use the Broadcasting Live camera, and it's modified inside Jenkey's gameplay tool. I believe I zoomed it out just a bit and slightly lowered the height.

                            Originally posted by niharjhatn
                            Hey Matt, just wondering what sort of values are you using now?

                            Do you still prefer just editing the two values or are you using some tactic edits as well?
                            Apologies, I know I need to update this thread. A similar one I created has taken off on evo-web forums now.

                            http://evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=69196

                            And per one of the posts - the most recent:

                            No gameplay patches applied.
                            1. Pressing (All Teams) + 10
                            2. Compactness (All Teams) + 20 (max)
                            3. Attack (All Players) to value of "1"
                            4. Defense (All Players) to value of "1"
                            5. Attack Awareness (All Players) = 3
                            6. Attack Awareness (GK) = 1
                            7. Tenacity = 99

                            ALL SWP/CB = Anchor Man (Player Index Card)

                            *I am still messing with the Gameplay tool advanced settings*.
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                            • dubcity
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                              • May 2012
                              • 17872

                              #119
                              Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                              Originally posted by Matt10
                              What is going on with you picture anyways? As far as the camera, I use the Broadcasting Live camera, and it's modified inside Jenkey's gameplay tool. I believe I zoomed it out just a bit and slightly lowered the height.



                              Apologies, I know I need to update this thread. A similar one I created has taken off on evo-web forums now.

                              http://evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=69196

                              And per one of the posts - the most recent:

                              No gameplay patches applied.
                              1. Pressing (All Teams) + 10
                              2. Compactness (All Teams) + 20 (max)
                              3. Attack (All Players) to value of "1"
                              4. Defense (All Players) to value of "1"
                              5. Attack Awareness (All Players) = 3
                              6. Attack Awareness (GK) = 1
                              7. Tenacity = 99

                              ALL SWP/CB = Anchor Man (Player Index Card)

                              *I am still messing with the Gameplay tool advanced settings*.
                              Any advice to people playing on consoles as far as what to edit? I can edit some of those (offensive awareness, team tactics), but I don't know how to change tenacity, and I'm pretty sure I can't touch the "Attack" or "Defense" coding for each player.

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