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  • SAJ323
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    • Jan 2011
    • 58

    #76
    Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

    Do you play on professional or top player. I feel as if I'm already dominating enough possession wise and if I drop down it will be even easier. Also when you say attack value , is there a rating on the CPU version called that? I went into editing players and all I saw was offensive awareness that could be 1,2 or 3

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    • Matt10
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      • Apr 2006
      • 16626

      #77
      Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

      Originally posted by El Niche
      Good video Matt. Changing the option of Auto-tackle and tackling to Hard really, really helped. This should be on default, no wonder my AI players won't do **** before. Thanks for the heads up!

      What options did you change with Jenkey Tool? Also, have you played only exhibition? Or have you gone into ML?

      (Again, sorry to ask this question again, how are you crossing and heading the ball? I havent hit a header in 1 week I think)
      Crossing is tricky, man. I still haven't figured out. I know last night I used R2 (jockey) before the ball got there. It was a standing headed goal by my big man up top.

      For jenkey's tool - I just used whatever he had when you load the tool. I increases shot power by about 2, and ball weight to 83 from 80 I believe.

      The auto tackle really does help. It's everything FIFA was trying to do - without having to smash the pressure button. I can still go mark the zone in one area to prevent a pass - while I know my CPU defender will contain.

      Originally posted by SAJ323
      Do you play on professional or top player. I feel as if I'm already dominating enough possession wise and if I drop down it will be even easier. Also when you say attack value , is there a rating on the CPU version called that? I went into editing players and all I saw was offensive awareness that could be 1,2 or 3
      I'm on Top Player. Possession can be dominated. If you don't have the attack value (it's a rating per player, it should be within the first set of rating vlues) at the "1" mark for all players - the game play differences between yours and mine will be huge.

      The attack value at "1" prevents those constant aggressive runs and bulldozing dribble moves past your defenders. It also allows the CPU to build the attack because the mentality isn't to ATTACK right away, it's to BUILD based on the tactic and mentality of the players surrounded.
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      • SAJ323
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        • Jan 2011
        • 58

        #78
        I'm pretty sure the console does not have a attack rating .... I'll check again but it would be a huge bummer.

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        • Matt10
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          • Apr 2006
          • 16626

          #79
          Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

          Originally posted by SAJ323
          I'm pretty sure the console does not have a attack rating .... I'll check again but it would be a huge bummer.
          Yeah, that's what someone said on youtube. Try the "offense" rating, I understand that is rating value of 1-100 as well. So it could be the "attack" value.
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          • SAJ323
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            • Jan 2011
            • 58

            #80
            Will do! Will report back tonight

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            • Mrgavro5
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              • Oct 2010
              • 28

              #81
              Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

              I got the game yesterday and today i tried Matts10 adjustments.Game is definitly more close and more pass,pass,pass to go,because of the hard pressure,but Im not sure if it is somehow better than out of the box where the game is more open and have more variety for oportunity to score the goal.

              I have question.With compactness,pressing,defensive line,attack value set at 100 (except attack value set at 1) is it possible to play with these settings just on the CPU side and my have at default such as quick counter,all out attack,defence,long ball...I just want to have more varyetis in attack and defence.

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              • Matt10
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                • Apr 2006
                • 16626

                #82
                Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                Originally posted by Mrgavro5
                I got the game yesterday and today i tried Matts10 adjustments.Game is definitly more close and more pass,pass,pass to go,because of the hard pressure,but Im not sure if it is somehow better than out of the box where the game is more open and have more variety for oportunity to score the goal.

                I have question.With compactness,pressing,defensive line,attack value set at 100 (except attack value set at 1) is it possible to play with these settings just on the CPU side and my have at default such as quick counter,all out attack,defence,long ball...I just want to have more varyetis in attack and defence.
                Do you mean to just have the values go towards only CPU teams? If that's the case, well yeah - you can just edit your own tactics to however you'd like.

                If you mean that just to have it for one tactic (preset)? Then yes, but you'd have to manually go into each preset tactic of your choosing and change it.
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                • Tomba
                  TOMBA IS ONLINE
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 8908

                  #83
                  Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                  I played more default and STILL had fun and thought gameplay was better than Fifa. fifa 13 needs MAJOR slider adjustments to even get close to pes2013's default gameplay. but add some of Matt10 theories along with my own which im still testings out and you get some gameplay that is a mix of football kingdom and winning eleven 6 final evolution!
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                  • Matt10
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                    • Apr 2006
                    • 16626

                    #84
                    Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                    Originally posted by Tomba
                    I played more default and STILL had fun and thought gameplay was better than Fifa. fifa 13 needs MAJOR slider adjustments to even get close to pes2013's default gameplay. but add some of Matt10 theories along with my own which im still testings out and you get some gameplay that is a mix of football kingdom and winning eleven 6 final evolution!
                    Multiple thumbs up for mentioning football kingdom!! Ah, so awesome.

                    Based on requests, I'm making a video tonight on how to do this for pes 13 editor.
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                    • Tomba
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                      • Sep 2006
                      • 8908

                      #85
                      Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                      Originally posted by Matt10
                      Multiple thumbs up for mentioning football kingdom!! Ah, so awesome.

                      Based on requests, I'm making a video tonight on how to do this for pes 13 editor.
                      Not to go off topic but football kingdom was better than winning eleven in some regards.

                      camera angles and overall running were superb

                      PES2013 does outthrone it tho LOL
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                      • RaptorMania
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                        • Aug 2009
                        • 116

                        #86
                        This looks great, even tho I love the way the game plays on default, just wish the comp was more aggresive when defending. Can you possibly add to the first post which settings need to be changed for consoles. I want to test it out see how it plays, great work man.

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                        • Matt10
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                          • Apr 2006
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                          #87
                          Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                          Originally posted by RaptorMania
                          This looks great, even tho I love the way the game plays on default, just wish the comp was more aggresive when defending. Can you possibly add to the first post which settings need to be changed for consoles. I want to test it out see how it plays, great work man.
                          Definitely, I'm making an all around video right now. From setting it up, to playing a game.
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                          • tv25man
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                            • Aug 2004
                            • 194

                            #88
                            Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                            There is a definite correlation between your formation and the CPU tactics. I was playing a 4-4-2 last night and the cpu was pretty direct. I scored in the 51st minute and parked the bus, because we (Ajax) needed the 3 points, badly. I took of a striker and put CB, and went ultra defensive. with 5 at the back, the cpu became much more fluid with the ball. They were having some great buildups, but couldn't get through (until the 80th when they scored on a set piece). I tested some games with 5 at the back, and the cpu really held possession well. Its good to see they adapt.

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                            • RaptorMania
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                              • Aug 2009
                              • 116

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Matt10
                              Definitely, I'm making an all around video right now. From setting it up, to playing a game.

                              Sounds good bro.

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                              • Tomba
                                TOMBA IS ONLINE
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 8908

                                #90
                                Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

                                Matt10 said it best to me.

                                Adjusting the tactics in this way is the back way into making actually sliders for PES2013
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