PES 2016 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

[gabs485]

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I don't know. Maybe some of these issues can be improved upon with different settings but the number of easy chances I'm seeing is reminiscent of FIFA 15 to me in that they are due to AI programming issues, issues that can't be fixed with fluid formations, different tactics, different settings, whatever. It's the same as not being able to "fix" last year's defensive issues in FIFA with sliders. Same thing.



For example, I'm creating super easy one-on-one chances by simple 1-2s, with defenders not properly tracking runs; I'm seeing CBs not properly mark attackers, allowing for too much space and easy chances; I'm conceding far too many goals because my keeper parries and a CPU attacker responds quicker than defenders in the area.



It shouldn't be up to the community to adjust the game to accommodate for its flaws, whether it's with sliders, passing settings, fluid formations, manual passing, whatever.



And by the way, FIFA plays anything but an up and down affair this year right out of the box. In the FIFA demo, I have to work for my goals. In this, it just feels all too easy to create chances.

I was doing the same thing on Top level.

I was really killing the AI.

However, once I switched to Manual passing and manual shooting. The game plays great.

Also, I get killed in tournament modes. The AI defense is so aggressive and solid.

It's so hard to beat defenders 1 v 1 when playing during tournament mode.


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[elprez98]

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The replays on PES are amazing(always have been). It is probably the only game that I choose to watch the replays at halftime and at the end of the game.


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[gabs485]

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Can't agree with that. Yes, Fifa has better overall atmosphere as you play the game, stands look better, etc, but the graphics aren't bad. I also think PES nails player likeness much better than FIFA, especially their face scans.

Graphics from the Fans View Camera suck!

Up close graphics are amazing.




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[stlducks]

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I actually did the camera view from behind (not sure what it's called) but it was fun for a game here or there. Gives you a different view of the field and passing lanes.


My favorite thing about PES is what a lot of people hate and that is it's customization. I love changing kits, editing players(hairstyles in this game are great if that's your thing) and changing formations and tactics.

[TheDutchDad]

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I actually did the camera view from behind (not sure what it's called) but it was fun for a game here or there. Gives you a different view of the field and passing lanes.


My favorite thing about PES is what a lot of people hate and that is it's customization. I love changing kits, editing players(hairstyles in this game are great if that's your thing) and changing formations and tactics.

Agreed. I decided when the squad update comes out, I'll start a ML with original PES lineup and use my home town team, the Colorado Rapids and put them in the Championship and move my way up. I like that I can change their kits each year if I want to.

[Tomba]

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IF you guys want best player movemt

do this for motion settings for EVERY player

3/6

3/3

WHAT a difference looks almost real

[mo2119]

3 games played so far. Absolutely love it!

I play 10 min halves on superstar with -1 game speed and manual passing.

Fouls:
-CPU fouls me 2-3 times per game - no complaints here.
-I foul the CPU 5-6 times per game. (I'm a cynic so I take tactical fouls to stop the CPU from countering). I was playing as ManU in my second game versus Chelsea and Fellaini got a second yellow in the 70th minute as I was trying to stop a Chelsea counter attack. Ended up scoring a 85th minute equalizer with 10 men and drawing 1-1. That game was so friggen satisfying!

Atmosphere:
Chants for licensed teams are authentic. I'm a Juve fan and when they started singing songs I recognized I joined in no joke

[Money99]

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As you move up in difficulty do the CPU players get attribute boosts, or does it just get smarter?

[duffman]

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How has the cpu goal variety been? In demo and in most videos I've seen online, looks like they like to dribble into the box and shoot low almost all of the time. Is that the same in retail from what you guys have seen so far?

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[nunogomes]

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This thread has become hard to read through.

Yes, too many people playing on low difficulty settings with assisted controls, gives a wrong idea about the game...

See, this is exactly what I had highlighted several months ago. It's Not Alive (like Bhatti says), but it's seriously Chaotic. It's like PES took FIFA 15's and PES 14/15's defending ADD and just ported it into PES 16

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Matt, play the game on Superstar and see if the CB gives you the space you complain early in the video. Play with no assisted settings also, to see how hard it is to create chances against CPU.

Really, we complain about the people in FIFA thread who play with the default demo difficulty (semi-pro) and say the game is easy, we can´t do the same here. Your videos are great, but this one is "tainted" by judging the defensive AI of the game on a very low difficulty setting...

BUT the games DOES have a very severe problem on controlled shots inside the box to the far post, the go in at an alarming rate. This is the biggest problem with the game and possibly a game killer one...

[Rangerneb]

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The fouls issue is bothersome but it's not the biggest problem for me. The biggest problem is this is basically a PES version of FIFA 15 - easy chance creation; poor defending; counter-attack dominant; lots of open space for easy long sprints; no real skill or intelligence needed to score.

Certainly not feeling anything like a sim experience that's for sure.

Try upping the difficulty a bit.

[Matt10]

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Yes, too many people playing on low difficulty settings with assisted controls, gives a wrong idea about the game...



Matt, play the game on Superstar and see if the CB gives you the space you complain early in the video. Play with no assisted settings also, to see how hard it is to create chances against CPU.

Really, we complain about the people in FIFA thread who play with the default demo difficulty (semi-pro) and say the game is easy, we can´t do the same here. Your videos are great, but this one is "tainted" by judging the defensive AI of the game on a very low difficulty setting...

BUT the games DOES have a very severe problem on controlled shots inside the box to the far post, the go in at an alarming rate. This is the biggest problem with the game and possibly a game killer one...

Yeah the video was from a couple months ago when the first look of the demo was posted showing Bhatti playing (the IGN one). I couldn't verify of the lower difficulty, but throughout the video I mention that I believe it was on a low difficulty - so I hoped that was the case.

I bought the game last night expecting to sneak in some time with it before work - but no such luck arrived. I definitely plan on providing my thoughts as the defensive animations are what I'm most concerned about - and not just from the demo, but videos I've viewed on youtube.

[orion523]

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Yeah the video was from a couple months ago when the first look of the demo was posted showing Bhatti playing (the IGN one). I couldn't verify of the lower difficulty, but throughout the video I mention that I believe it was on a low difficulty - so I hoped that was the case.

I bought the game last night expecting to sneak in some time with it before work - but no such luck arrived. I definitely plan on providing my thoughts as the defensive animations are what I'm most concerned about - and not just from the demo, but videos I've viewed on youtube.

I'm going to hold off until I read what you have to say, I must admit though I spent some more time with the demo today and I came away pretty happy

[Zac]

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I tried. I tried to love it. But its just not possible. I can't play this anymore.

In 12 games the CPU scored directly after me, every time. On that kick off they would find some way to get an insane almost magical like run into the box. Within in seconds of kick off, with 2 or 3 players vs all 10 of mine. And once the CPU is in the box its all over. They hit the far post top corner every damn time. Its crazy. And not a single one of those games had less than five total goals scored. And not a single CPU foul. I just can't play this game.

[PeruvianPlaya954]

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I tried. I tried to love it. But its just not possible. I can't play this anymore.

In 12 games the CPU scored directly after me, every time. On that kick off they would find some way to get an insane almost magical like run into the box. Within in seconds of kick off, with 2 or 3 players vs all 10 of mine. And once the CPU is in the box its all over. They hit the far post top corner every damn time. Its crazy. And not a single one of those games had less than five total goals scored. And not a single CPU foul. I just can't play this game.

Very odd. Must be the way you play then. No one has directly score off a kickoff after me yet, and my goalkeeper comes up with big saves in the box a bunch.