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  • BL8001
    MVP
    • Jul 2010
    • 1884

    #241
    Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

    Another thing fixed, and I am still in shock the demo has changed...

    On top and superstar the cpu used to do this annoying thing where at kickoff the opposing ST would bum rush you right after you tapped it to the other player.

    Played 4 matches now and have not seen that happen once. That is a welcome change as well.

    Notice the D overall is better.

    Posting 2 vids showing barca swarm and wizardry vs me as arsenal

    1st half
    <iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/4GyLxZhQAY4" allowfullscreen="" height="360" width="640" frameborder="0"></iframe>

    2nd half
    <iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/oiH827Pa4L0" allowfullscreen="" height="360" width="640" frameborder="0"></iframe>
    Last edited by BL8001; 08-30-2016, 12:41 AM.
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    • Gnemi
      Rookie
      • Jan 2012
      • 1519

      #242
      Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

      Originally posted by BL8001
      Another thing fixed, and I am still in shock the demo has changed...



      On top and superstar the cpu used to do this annoying thing where at kickoff the opposing ST would bum rush you right after you tapped it to the other player.



      Played 4 matches now and have not seen that happen once. That is a welcome change as well.



      Notice the D overall is better.



      Posting 2 vids showing barca swarm and wizardry vs me as arsenal


      I'm confused. How is it fixed? Like Konami is fixing it magically? I'm confused.


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      • papinho81
        Pro
        • Feb 2015
        • 673

        #243
        Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

        Originally posted by BL8001
        Ps4 and xbox one are both playing better. Matt and I and the peeps in his stream sussed it all out.

        This game is incredible now.

        You don't have to make any changes the demo is just fixed
        Could you explain just a bit more please? What? How?
        Last edited by papinho81; 08-30-2016, 12:43 AM.

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        • Matt10
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2006
          • 16628

          #244
          Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

          No idea how it's been done, but it's definitely fixed.

          Here is my archived stream, go to minute 35 when Derek and co. jumped in and I had to explain it all again

          Sorry for no game audio.
          <iframe width="750" height="422" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NoGgNJUjJCE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

          Here is my video from the other day that illustrated the issue with the defensive midfielder's position to begin with:

          <iframe width="750" height="422" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rdJr_L8BoWE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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          • Slider79
            Rookie
            • Apr 2015
            • 50

            #245
            Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

            My Highlights of my first Superstar Win against France...


            Love this game

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            • BL8001
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 1884

              #246
              Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

              The cdm moves up into the open spaces now if not needing to defend

              The whole defensive back line is less static.

              No more felony assault right after kickoff.

              IMO everything about the gameplay which was great feels even greater.

              And no clue why. I am as shocked as I think matt is. He had been putting it out to konami what was wrong but nobody thought they would fix it for the demo.

              I am Derek in matts vids and to make it more confusing, worldrevolver on youtube
              Last edited by BL8001; 08-30-2016, 01:54 AM.
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              • papinho81
                Pro
                • Feb 2015
                • 673

                #247
                Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                Originally posted by BL8001
                The cdm moves up into the open spaces now if not needing to defend

                The whole defensive back line is less static.

                No more felony assault right after kickoff.

                IMO everything about the gameplay which was great feels even greater.

                And no clue why. I am as shocked as I think matt is. He had been putting it out to konami what was wrong but nobody thought they would fix it for the demo.

                I am Derek in matts vids and to make it more confusing, worldrevolver on youtube
                How has it been fixed without downloads? Have you checked your downloading record?

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                • dubcity
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • May 2012
                  • 17872

                  #248
                  Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                  Man, it's gonna be a long year if people are already talking about gameplay changes before the game is even out, let alone before a patch. Gotta watch out for placebo and confirmation bias, guys. Lol. Don't see how (or why) Konami would touch gameplay on a demo.

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                  • papinho81
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 673

                    #249
                    Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                    Great videos Matt!!!

                    Edit: at minute 26 of the video (name:Konami listen me?) you are in a very similar situation to the video I posted on which I was reporting that CB were running out from the ball carrier until they reached the penalty area. On your video the two CB behaved so much better. They retreated a few meters then stopped to block the progression of the ball carrier. Great!
                    Last edited by papinho81; 08-30-2016, 05:24 AM.

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                    • nunogomes
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1107

                      #250
                      Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                      Originally posted by BL8001
                      Ps4 and xbox one are both playing better. Matt and I and the peeps in his stream sussed it all out.

                      This game is incredible now.

                      You don't have to make any changes the demo is just fixed
                      This is literally impossible, any changes they would do to a demo it had to be through a download, an update, a patch, whatever. At least in the PS4, don´t know about PC or Xbox...

                      Im not saying there are no differences, but those are the result of something else besides an update.

                      Meanwhile, i stopped playing every game i was playing and im glued to the demo!

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                      • BL8001
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 1884

                        #251
                        Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                        Look, I agree. I have no idea how any of this happened.

                        But look at Matt's videos.

                        And I did not see it at first when I grabbed the demo, it's tough to see because it's off screen. If you are pushing the ball forward why would you be looking at your CB's or CDM?

                        I saw it after Matt explained it in one of his streams last thursday or friday.

                        Then I see his post from last night and jumped onto his stream and he showed us how it was fixed in the demo.

                        So I jumped out and tested it myself on PS4. The CDM moves up and fills the space.

                        You have to go into replay to see it.

                        All I know is it was an issue since the demo came out and now as of some time yesterday it is not an issue anymore.
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                        • Thrash13
                          MVP
                          • May 2005
                          • 1133

                          #252
                          Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                          I played the demo for another hour or so last night, and it's going to be really tough to play FIFA now. I'm getting used to the PES controls, and it'll make it even tougher switching back and forth.

                          I haven't played FIFA 17 yet, but the PES 2017 demo is definitely stronger than FIFA 16 in the gameplay department. There are so many more little things in this game that catch my attention and impress me.

                          It looks great, and I won't be surprised if the final product looks even more crisp. I played mostly night games to start with, but day games look magnificent. I'm looking forward to playing more tonight.

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                          • RoyceDa59
                            Chillin
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 3830

                            #253
                            Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                            Has anyone been able to draw a penalty kick against the CPU? I have given away two so far but haven't had to CPU get commit one against me.

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                            • papinho81
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 673

                              #254
                              Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                              Originally posted by RoyceDa59
                              Has anyone been able to draw a penalty kick against the CPU? I have given away two so far but haven't had to CPU get commit one against me.
                              Had one! No straight red card so far despite having been aggressed a hand full of time.

                              No trace of a download but I agree this game has changed for the better.

                              Truly amazing!
                              Last edited by papinho81; 08-30-2016, 12:35 PM.

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                              • BL8001
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 1884

                                #255
                                Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                                Yeah this makes me wonder if they can change gameplay server side.

                                Which would be huge if so.

                                But only of course if they make the right changes. So far so good if that is what is happening.
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