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  • Anton10
    Rookie
    • Sep 2015
    • 39

    #61
    Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

    Originally posted by Peter_OS
    the AI in the demo is horrendous... clear path to the goal (after goalkeeper mistake on kick) and AI decides to pass the ball to another player behind him (midfielder). really?? AI passes are way off. Hope they can tweak the AI before the game ships at the end of this month.

    Played on Professional difficulty btw.
    Yes it's too easy, even Superstar isn't that difficult. Don't hold your breath for an update. On Twitter I asked Adam Bhatti last year if the 2018 demo was going to be updated and his response was - Absolutely Not! All resources are towards the final release of the game and will not be used to update the demo!
    Last edited by Anton10; 08-10-2018, 12:07 AM.

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    • Panther84
      Rookie
      • Sep 2003
      • 359

      #62
      Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

      They got hdr lighting down!

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      • bxphenom7
        Pro
        • Feb 2012
        • 593

        #63
        I really don't understand people saying Superstar is easy. I've played about 12 games or so, only won 3 on pass support 1. Playing as a weaker side has been a challenged for me. Only 1 of my 3 wins came as a weaker side. Players seem to go out of bounds here and there. The whole stamina thing leading to injuries...doesn't seem to happen. And when players do get injured, the AI doesn't sub them out. That's disappointing.  GKs need to come out a little more. I feel they changed that from E3 because GKs were getting chipped all the time. Could have just made it harder to chip the ball. Looking forward to the final build. 

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        • Walt Frazier
          Pro
          • Jan 2014
          • 989

          #64
          Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

          Originally posted by Panther84
          They got hdr lighting down!
          HDR looks phenomenally good i must say.

          Maybe the best I have seen in any game.

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          • RoyceDa59
            Chillin
            • Aug 2003
            • 3830

            #65
            Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by CujoMatty
            I just want one persons impressions to contain the words cpu commited a penalty and then I’m all in.*
            In my games today I conceded and was rewarded a penalty.

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            • ODogg
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2003
              • 37953

              #66
              Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

              I really liked this game but man that demo was 47 menus going through it to get to the demo, LOL

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              • dodgerblue
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 1239

                #67
                PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

                This is my first year with the demo. I’m a new player who up to this point has only played FIFA so take it fwiw.

                I like the tic tac toe passing, that you can’t sprint down field with possession. I also like the footwork by the best players without having to know some magical combinations.
                Haven’t figured out how to lead pass without my receiver stopping. Also not as physical as I would like compared to fifa 18 and the atmosphere is pretty bland-could just be that it’s a demo. I’m on the fence tbh.

                I have to say though, scoring is pretty awesome. You really feel like you’ve done something special.

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                • bwiggy33
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 2003

                  #68
                  Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

                  The biggest thing that makes me on the fence is whether back tracking AI has been fixed. I don't think it has because I played yesterday and there was a situation where all of my defenders immediately retreated towards my box and the opponent I was playing raced through midfield without a player close to him. Needless to say he scored because of it. I'm sure I could have done something better defensively to stop it, but the back tracking was the main reason the goal was given up.

                  These 5 minute halves against the CPU just make it so damn hard to judge though. In past years we've at least had 10 minute halves. Last year I jumped the gun and got it on day one. I played the game for probably 8 hours total because the back tracking bugged me so much, so this year I will wait. There is so much give take with the game.

                  Positives

                  Gameplay: my goodness this blows FIFA out of the water minus the back tracking. Just to show off the smarts of the best players and dynamic AI, here is a situation I faced. I was playing Liverpool. They sent a ball over the top to Mane on the edge of the box. He was in a position to one-touch with momentum heading towards my goal. Instead Mane does an ever so slight header to Firmino who was just next to him. I played it thinking Sane was going to one-touch and try to dribble past my defender for a shot or cross. The slightly headed pass took me off guard and Firmino had an easy 1 v 1 with the keeper. My jaw dropped by the skill and smarts of the AI in that situation. I truly think it's the smarts of Sane that made the play and if it was a lower rated guy, he wouldn't have made that decision or would have screwed up the touch all together. I don't think I'd see something like that in FIFA.

                  Ball physics: Always has killed FIFA in this department. Just awesome seeing the deflections and ball spins that go out for throw-ins, goal kicks, and corners.

                  Passes and skills: Awesome seeing the best players in the game pull off amazing link up plays. Also, I like seeing less accurate CPU passing. I am nowhere near talented enough to pull off any sort of moves or skill passes. It's something I've always needed to learn but I don't know if I have the stick skills. I also hate the PS4 controller but it's the system I play it on due to the option files.

                  Lighting: Holy crap! The lighting and graphics are just amazing. As mentioned I was on regular PS4. Afterwards, I played FIFA 18 on regular Xbox one. FIFA looked so grainy and dull. It was just crazy the difference in coloring and graphics. Maybe adjusting FIFA visual settings may help, but I'm not sure that's the issue.

                  Negatives, besides the already mentioned back tracking.

                  Goalies: I just cannot put my finger on it but I have never liked goalie animations in PES. There is just something about it. Maybe I'm too used to FIFA, but I love the reactions from goalies in that game. After playing FIFA 18 after this demo, it confirmed my belief on that.

                  Slide tackling: While I feel it's better than last year, I still hate how far players slide in certain situations. If you miss a slide tackle sure there should be fouls, but I just don't feel it should be possible that you take down a player who was not even in the play, and was a long distance from the guy you were trying to slide tackle. It's always annoyed me. Idk, maybe it's just me.
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                  • hooligangy
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 32

                    #69
                    Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

                    Game is much better than last year, which was awful with that pass to the wingers and the open spaces everywhere, but ML will be just as boring so there is no way Im getting it.

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                    • Turbojugend
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 2242

                      #70
                      Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

                      I booted up 2018 last night, mainly to get the discount on the 2019 Legendary Edition pre-order. I then decided to play a few games and my goodness, the difference in visuals from 18 to 19 is night and day, especially on a 4K TV with HDR on the PS4 Pro. Probably the biggest year-to-year graphical leap I've seen in either FIFA or PES since I've been playing these games.

                      5 minutes halves vs. the CPU is super-frustating though. I love the demo, but there's no way for me to get a proper feel for a match at this rate.
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                      • Jatt96
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 260

                        #71
                        Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by Turbojugend
                        I booted up 2018 last night, mainly to get the discount on the 2019 Legendary Edition pre-order. I then decided to play a few games and my goodness, the difference in visuals from 18 to 19 is night and day, especially on a 4K TV with HDR on the PS4 Pro. Probably the biggest year-to-year graphical leap I've seen in either FIFA or PES since I've been playing these games.

                        5 minutes halves vs. the CPU is super-frustating though. I love the demo, but there's no way for me to get a proper feel for a match at this rate.
                        Hm I wouldn't say it's the biggest year to year I've ever seen.

                        I'll have to wait for some side by side videos but I booted it up on my 4K OLED TV PS4 Pro and wasn't blown away by an enormous graphical leap...grass was the most noticeable improvement.

                        Is PES 19 HDR? Don't think PES 18 was.

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                        • Turbojugend
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 2242

                          #72
                          Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by Jatt96
                          Is PES 19 HDR? Don't think PES 18 was.
                          Yep, HDR and 4K as well. 18 was neither. Add in touches like 60fps cutscenes (18 seemed to hover around 30fps) and improved net physics and it's a massive improvement IMO.

                          Speaking of 4K, I wonder how this is going to affect option files. For example, if there will be an option to upload super-HD kits in exchange for having fewer kits. We already have something similar for 1024 vs. 2048, but I have a feeling those 1024 kits aren't going to cut it anymore, at least not on a 4K screen.
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                          • RogerDodger
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 1082

                            #73
                            Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

                            I love the demo, definitely buying the full release. Atmosphere for games at the Non Camp was almost perfect, among the best I've experienced in a video game.

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                            • huskyds
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2016
                              • 39

                              #74
                              Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by Anton10
                              Good summary mate.

                              A few times I have closed the attacker down and the CPU just chips the ball over my player to another attacker even when there are safer options to the side. The passing around is better but it's a bit unrealistic as you don't see that many chip passes in actual football. Anyone else noticed this?
                              Yeah, there are too many chip passes. Looks cool but in fact is not realistic.

                              Pes2019 looks graphically very nice with the new grass and lightning, but still have a lot of the same problems. Horrible impact engine (always with premade animations), lag in the gamepad controls, the defensive system still very basic, the fatigue is very bad implemented (all players run the same with the stamina bar at full than at minimun), a lot of IA problems (the cpu never shoots from long range or try individual chances of goal, always pass-pass-pass...), the cpu golkeepers in 1vs1 situations still on de goal line,...etc

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                              • KG
                                Welcome Back
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 17583

                                #75
                                Re: PES 2019 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by Turbojugend
                                Yep, HDR and 4K as well. 18 was neither. Add in touches like 60fps cutscenes (18 seemed to hover around 30fps) and improved net physics and it's a massive improvement IMO.



                                Speaking of 4K, I wonder how this is going to affect option files. For example, if there will be an option to upload super-HD kits in exchange for having fewer kits. We already have something similar for 1024 vs. 2048, but I have a feeling those 1024 kits aren't going to cut it anymore, at least not on a 4K screen.


                                18 was HDR/4K on the PS4. I don’t think the newer capable 4K/HDR Xbox was around during the development so it couldn’t be optimized.

                                I do know that when I boot up ‘18 on the PS4 and switch imports to the XB1 its like night and day. Then you boot up ‘19 and it’s like “DAMN!”.


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