Re: eFootball PES 2020 Impressions

[villabraves]

Re: eFootball PES 2020 Impressions

I am not having this issue as your stating it. Only goals ive seen have been solid. Unless i have a stupid giveaway. Actually my only complaint would be free kicks close to goal. You better be ready as cpu is getting it on frame. For this. I am now controlling keeper to try stopping it.

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Well all I can say is you must have a better copy of it than me [emoji23]. I have played about 15 games today, pro level, 15 min games in ML and I sh!t you not, I’ve conceded at least one goal, sometimes two in every game where either,
a) I try to switch to a defender directly involved with the play and nothing happens or
b) the defender I’m controlling literally stops running or just becomes unresponsive and stands there while the cpu scores.

Honestly I’m not making this up. Konami have acknowledged there is an issue with player switching or being unresponsive and will patch it at the end of October! That’s 5 weeks away!

To me personally, at the moment I have no further appetite to play because this is a fundamental flaw that makes the game pointless in playing. Why would I desire to play a game knowing that at some stage this will happen. As I stated earlier, other aspects of the game are great but this is the sort of bull [emoji90] I expect on FIFA, and yes, I’ve tried that out today as well and it’s garbage!

This is so frustrating it’s just [emoji90].


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[phillyfan23]

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Only played few games and no doubt the demo was better, but this is still an enjoyable game and arguably my favorite game since the PS2 days. Disappointing on the recent announcement of not adjusting back to the demo play and fouls.

Other than fouls, what else do you notice that’s better in the demo?





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[PAPERNUT]

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Other than fouls, what else do you notice that’s better in the demo?

Physicality and fouls for sure. Might has been the first time in a while that a DMF mattered and put some fear into challenges. I also noticed the cpu is more aggressive with their dribbling/skill moves and moving forward. However, that could be a product of being careful due to the risk of getting a foul called. Love that chess game from the demo. Now it is just an easy dispossession with no risk at all...….

Was hoping for a DT18 to fix things, but so far no luck as fouls look to be hard coded.

Just finished up 3 teams in my MLS file. Some assets did not make it over for some players, but I will go back in create new faces for those. At least all my ratings and attributes are copying over easily and now that I am getting the hang of things, should not take as long to convert.

[phillyfan23]

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Physicality and fouls for sure. Might has been the first time in a while that a DMF mattered and put some fear into challenges. I also noticed the cpu is more aggressive with their dribbling/skill moves and moving forward. However, that could be a product of being careful due to the risk of getting a foul called. Love that chess game from the demo. Now it is just an easy dispossession with no risk at all...….

Ive been playing the demo recently to compare and you are absolutely right regarding the cpu skill moves/dribbles. This was much better in the demo. Current version, cpu is a bit too pass happy and too rarely runs at the human defender.

However, the cpu in the demo is a little too direct in its attack, has slightly worse defense and aren’t aggressive enough.

Hopefully the october patch will address all these issues:

Increase fouls and cpu dribbles back to demo levels.

Keep current cpu aggressiveness/defense and their slower paced yet dangerous offense.





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[Hunkerdown]

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Well all I can say is you must have a better copy of it than me [emoji23]. I have played about 15 games today, pro level, 15 min games in ML and I sh!t you not, I’ve conceded at least one goal, sometimes two in every game where either,
a) I try to switch to a defender directly involved with the play and nothing happens or
b) the defender I’m controlling literally stops running or just becomes unresponsive and stands there while the cpu scores.

Honestly I’m not making this up. Konami have acknowledged there is an issue with player switching or being unresponsive and will patch it at the end of October! That’s 5 weeks away!

To me personally, at the moment I have no further appetite to play because this is a fundamental flaw that makes the game pointless in playing. Why would I desire to play a game knowing that at some stage this will happen. As I stated earlier, other aspects of the game are great but this is the sort of bull [emoji90] I expect on FIFA, and yes, I’ve tried that out today as well and it’s garbage!

This is so frustrating it’s just [emoji90].


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Maybe I play defense different than you. Usually already switched.

PSN: ORLANDORUCKUS
Twitch: hunkerdown
YouTube: ORLANDORUCKUS

[Hunkerdown]

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Well all I can say is you must have a better copy of it than me [emoji23]. I have played about 15 games today, pro level, 15 min games in ML and I sh!t you not, I’ve conceded at least one goal, sometimes two in every game where either,
a) I try to switch to a defender directly involved with the play and nothing happens or
b) the defender I’m controlling literally stops running or just becomes unresponsive and stands there while the cpu scores.

Honestly I’m not making this up. Konami have acknowledged there is an issue with player switching or being unresponsive and will patch it at the end of October! That’s 5 weeks away!

To me personally, at the moment I have no further appetite to play because this is a fundamental flaw that makes the game pointless in playing. Why would I desire to play a game knowing that at some stage this will happen. As I stated earlier, other aspects of the game are great but this is the sort of bull [emoji90] I expect on FIFA, and yes, I’ve tried that out today as well and it’s garbage!

This is so frustrating it’s just [emoji90].


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I am not saying not an issue. Maybe I play defense different than you? Over compensate and switched already. I use alternate controls so similar to fifa. You use team press at all? No idea man, the game is not **** as you say. I would take pes gameplay over fifa any day as I have played both. Thanks to Matt, he made fifa 19 playable for me and fun. But fifa against cpu way more boring IMO. They have already stated next patch trying to improve things. I hope not for worse. Online crowd dominates patches nowadays. Pes demo had way more fouls, maybe not all realistic, but atleast realistic in numbers. Free kicks by cpu are the only cheese ive seem, anywhere around box and they seem to make 95% of them, even if i control GK. That has been my only real frustration.

PSN: ORLANDORUCKUS
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[curdsta]

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I love Master league this year.

First goal here I was denied an absolute beauty but Castledine sweeps in the rebound for a proper "YASS! GET IN THERE!" moment. He then grabs the assist for the decider following a header won by wee Rojas of all people...

https://youtu.be/8rAc3SgZ-zM

The match pace in Master League can be near glacial at times, but I love it because like the first goal shows it is just one spark (Castlediness rabona pass) that can suddenly switch the tempo up.

Absolutely brilliant. Honestly.

[dubcity]

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"Hug the touchline" and "deep defensive line" are trash and ruin the game lol. Please delete those stupid tactics, Konami. Make the pitch feel 2 miles wide, and the players are like mice.

I highly recommend playing on manual passing this year, and increasing line height and compactness.

[jumbonote]

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"Hug the touchline" and "deep defensive line" are trash and ruin the game lol. Please delete those stupid tactics, Konami. Make the pitch feel 2 miles wide, and the players are like mice.

I highly recommend playing on manual passing this year, and increasing line height and compactness.

100%....The field is in the scale of what under 8's football is....pes is more reminiscent of women's football than pro men's where there is high pressure intensity almost all over the field.

[KG]

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Yes I go into gameplay every game and look at the tactics, adjust positions, instructions, etc etc. still happens though, ball comes into the box, ping pongs around a bit and I can’t change to the player I want who then just stands there while the cpu pass/score. I’ve seen that this will be addressed in the next patch in 5/6 weeks time!


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Not denying your issue, but it takes time to test out gameplay tweaks implemented during patches because they can possibly affect other areas of the game.

100%....The field is in the scale of what under 8's football is....pes is more reminiscent of women's football than pro men's where there is high pressure intensity almost all over the field.

On both games, the field size (whether you think it's too big or too small) is usually camera relative. I tend think the pitch is too big in both games on their default cameras but when I watch my buddy's games on broadcast cam the pitch looks like what I see on TV.

[PAPERNUT]

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MLS file is now moved over from 19 to 20. Only thing left to update is the two new player attributes and sponsors. The program is used to convert the file defaults the new attributes to 70, so I need to test and update those. I suspect the tight dribbling att will mainly effect a few animations when in 1 on 1 battles and the aggression att similar with showing more of the pushing/physical animations new to the game this year. However, I want to fully test to be sure on all effects, so if anyone has done any work with these or have any thoughts, let me hear them. I may post the file tonight as is after work tonight as a version 1 and update the rest shortly.

[Hunkerdown]

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May I say, especially if your new to PES. Team spirit is essential to more success on the pitch in ML. Gameplan screen, number in blue shield top right corner. The higher the number, the better your team will play.
1. Formation and tactics effect this number. So changing these will lower number. But playing with same consistently will increase it.
2. Make sure your captain has "playmaker" ability attribute. Try to have atleast 2 players on squad that have "playmaker" ability to rotate as captain.
Team spirit will change the way your team will play on pitch. So make sure number as high as it can be for every match.
Hope this helps others who like me are coming from fifa.

PSN: ORLANDORUCKUS
Twitch: hunkerdown
YouTube: ORLANDORUCKUS

[joet6683]

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On both games, the field size (whether you think it's too big or too small) is usually camera relative. I tend think the pitch is too big in both games on their default cameras but when I watch my buddy's games on broadcast cam the pitch looks like what I see on TV.

100%. Even watching games on TV (being a lifelong player to this day) I think the pitch looks HUGE and always think our regulation field must be incorrect. But when they swing into a behind the goal view, it looks identical to my real life field.

But even so I don't get all the complaints about the large field in PES but somehow so much more accurate in FIFA. Pause these at the start times...how are these any different? They all seem to be about the same to me? If anything FIFA seems to look smaller than real life (EDIT - Smaller meaning the players look smaller, or a larger field than PES)?

PES

https://youtu.be/8rAc3SgZ-zM?t=32

vs
FIFA

https://youtu.be/fUxrMeuscIk?t=203

vs
REAL LIFE

https://youtu.be/bI4vEeGqWK8?t=97

Either way in both games, each strip of grass is 6 yards wide, each player appears to be around 1/3 of that width putting them around 6 feet.

[KG]

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100%. Even watching games on TV (being a lifelong player to this day) I think the pitch looks HUGE and always think our regulation field must be incorrect. But when they swing into a behind the goal view, it looks identical to my real life field.

But even so I don't get all the complaints about the large field in PES but somehow so much more accurate in FIFA. Pause these at the start times...how are these any different? They all seem to be about the same to me? If anything FIFA seems to look smaller than real life (EDIT - Smaller meaning the players look smaller, or a larger field than PES)?

PES

https://youtu.be/8rAc3SgZ-zM?t=32

vs
FIFA

https://youtu.be/fUxrMeuscIk?t=203

vs
REAL LIFE

https://youtu.be/bI4vEeGqWK8?t=97

Either way in both games, each strip of grass is 6 yards wide, each player appears to be around 1/3 of that width putting them around 6 feet.

From that comparison, PES def looks closer to real life but FIFA default is super zoomed out. It sucks because it makes the graphical enhancements from year-to-year look minimal and it helps with the arcadey gameplay at times because you can literally see nearly all 20 outfield players meaning you can almost ALWAYS pick the best passing option.

[lareka]

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May I say, especially if your new to PES. Team spirit is essential to more success on the pitch in ML. Gameplan screen, number in blue shield top right corner. The higher the number, the better your team will play.
1. Formation and tactics effect this number. So changing these will lower number. But playing with same consistently will increase it.
2. Make sure your captain has "playmaker" ability attribute. Try to have atleast 2 players on squad that have "playmaker" ability to rotate as captain.
Team spirit will change the way your team will play on pitch. So make sure number as high as it can be for every match.
Hope this helps others who like me are coming from fifa.

PSN: ORLANDORUCKUS
Twitch: hunkerdown
YouTube: ORLANDORUCKUS

Yes also if the players that are playing together constantly, team chemistry increases, if you try to put new players all the time to the team, team chemistry will drop and you'd need time for them to gell in the system