Official Spurs Thread

**Krebstar** · 08-17-2021, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by stlducks

I want to win the whole thing. Based on some of his comments it sounds like young players and fringe players will be playing or players regaining fitness.

I see the competition as a positive for a team like Spurs. Let guys like Sessegnon, Devine, Scarlett, Rodon, Gollini play so they have 6-9 extra games of experience under them.

It's a positive as long as the manager does what he says, but when push comes to shove and playing first-team regulars means advancing in the competition, therefore more revenue, he might be pressured to do something different than he said he would originally.

That would be my concern—the longer you go, the better the chance a first-team player gets injured in the chase for revenue.

Nuno notoriously loves working with a small squad, so it'll be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw the ECL as a chance to continue to drill first-team players and tactics, but I guess we'll see.

**stlducks** · 08-17-2021, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Krebstar

It's a positive as long as the manager does what he says, but when push comes to shove and playing first-team regulars means advancing in the competition, therefore more revenue, he might be pressured to do something different than he said he would originally.

That would be my concern—the longer you go, the better the chance a first-team player gets injured in the chase for revenue.

Nuno notoriously loves working with a small squad, so it'll be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw the ECL as a chance to continue to drill first-team players and tactics, but I guess we'll see.

I understand that but to me, I just want Spurs to win a trophy and if that trophy has to be ECL first and that is something to build off for the young players then I’m happy with it.

I look at Europa league the same. Once we win it my opinion might change but for now I want to the team try winning everything.

KG · 08-17-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by stlducks

I understand that but to me, I just want Spurs to win a trophy and if that trophy has to be ECL first and that is something to build off for the young players then I’m happy with it.

I look at Europa league the same. Once we win it my opinion might change but for now I want to the team try winning everything.

I have the same sentiments when Chelsea is in the Europa League. If we're in it...I wanna win it... /bars

Just need squad depth and a manager who can manage fatigue. Hell we did it with Sarri and he's so damn resistant to change/rotation.

I wasn't that impressed by Nuno tactically vs City. I thought his gameplan was spot on but it was similar to Mourinho's and even Ryan Mason BUT the big difference for me was mentality. Where as Mou would have just stayed on the backfoot eventually allowing City to get control of the game he told the players to break as much as possible. Had Bergwin had any sort of end product it would have been 2,3-0.

**stlducks** · 08-17-2021, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by KG

I have the same sentiments when Chelsea is in the Europa League. If we're in it...I wanna win it... /bars

Just need squad depth and a manager who can manage fatigue. Hell we did it with Sarri and he's so damn resistant to change/rotation.

I wasn't that impressed by Nuno tactically vs City. I thought his gameplan was spot on but it was similar to Mourinho's and even Ryan Mason BUT the big difference for me was mentality. Where as Mou would have just stayed on the backfoot eventually allowing City to get control of the game he told the players to break as much as possible. Had Bergwin had any sort of end product it would have been 2,3-0.

That is the biggest and most important difference for sure. Watching a few of the post match shows they pointed out a few smaller differences like the front three played higher up and narrow to force City wide. They also tried moving the ball to Mendys side most often.

On the counter we actually played fast instead of long balls like last year.

But I agree, tactically it wasn’t anything special but the effort and aggressive play changed everything. Going up 1-0 and not sitting back the last 20 minutes was nice to see.

I’m interested to see how Nuno sets up against teams we should control the game against. The likes of City, Chelsea, LFC I would expect us to play on the counter like Sunday.

**Krebstar** · 08-17-2021, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by stlducks

I’m interested to see how Nuno sets up against teams we should control the game against.

My guess: poorly. Nuno reminds me of Emery, but he'll be far more successful in the league (with a bigger team than Wolves) if he doesn't revert too quickly, or too often to safety first.

**Krebstar** · 08-17-2021, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Krebstar

My guess: poorly. Nuno reminds me of Emery, but he'll be far more successful in the league (with a bigger team than Wolves) if he doesn't revert too quickly, or too often to safety first.

A fun difference between the two is how they react differently on the touchline when they're anxious or worried—Nuno sucks on his teeth, but Emery pulls his lips back exposing his teeth.

I don't know what's wrong with me.

**stlducks** · 08-17-2021, 04:54 PM

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I have seen a lot of comparison charts but how a manager sucks teeth/lips might be something I have never seen lol.

I think Nuno is better fit for the PL than Emery. If he goes back to his ways of managing before the last season at Wolves, I will remain hopeful.

KG · 08-17-2021, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by stlducks

I have seen a lot of comparison charts but how a manager sucks teeth/lips might be something I have never seen lol.

I think Nuno is better fit for the PL than Emery. If he goes back to his ways of managing before the last season at Wolves, I will remain hopeful.

I also think he was dealt a crazy unfair hand with injuries. Everyone focuses on Liverpool and rightly so because they’re media darlings but

Jimenez (head)
Jonny (ACL)
Marcal (groin)
Podence (abductor)
Neto (patella)

To any squad that would be a lot but for a club like Wolves it’s devastating.

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**ImTellinTim** · 08-17-2021, 06:19 PM

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Liverpool also had I believe TWICE the amount of time missed due to injury as the next highest club last year (think it was Leicester). So there’s kind of a reason they were focused on, and it wasn’t because they’re media darlings haha. I mean they probably had more missed time just from defenders than some clubs had in total.

There’s no “everyone had injuries” to hand wave away what happened with Liverpool last season. It was basically unheard of.

It was what it was and this is the last time I’ll bring it up lol

EDIT: Alright, had to look it up because I was wondering what I remembered seeing towards the end of last season. It was a comparison of the clubs that were going for top 4 and Liverpool was way ahead of Leicester in that group (not quite twice).

Here's where the top 7 shook out - Days missed to injuries (number of players)

1. Manchester City 256 (6)
2. Manchester United 425 (8)
3. Liverpool 1,477 (17)
4. Chelsea 216 (6)
5. Leicester City 936 (13)
6. West Ham United 592 (9)
7. Tottenham 397 (7)

Some other interesting clubs:

Arsenal 190 (3) - No comment there
Crystal Palace (2nd most in league) 1,300 (15) Almost as bad as Liverpool! Yikes
Wolves since they were mentioned 881 (12) So yeah, pretty bad.

Overall injuries as a whole were actually slightly down league-wide compared to the previous season.

**stlducks** · 08-18-2021, 11:44 AM

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Kane, Dele, and Bergwijn among a few other starters from Sunday not in Portugal for tomorrow’s game. Hopefully we see Gil, Scarlett and Clarke with some time in attack then.

**stlducks** · 08-18-2021, 05:07 PM

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https://twitter.com/thespursexpress/status/1428096311052705792?s=21

Answers the question if Nuno will play starters early in ELC. Not one starter from the XI against City traveled.

**Krebstar** · 08-18-2021, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by stlducks

https://twitter.com/thespursexpress/...052705792?s=21

Answers the question if Nuno will play starters early in ELC. Not one starter from the XI against City traveled.

I'm more interested to see what he does if they make the group stage.

**stlducks** · 08-25-2021, 08:19 AM

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Kane announced he’s staying. City really screwed that up.

**Krebstar** · 08-25-2021, 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by stlducks

Kane announced he’s staying. City really screwed that up.

I think you mean Kane announced that Spurs will not sell him.

As for screwed up, Kane also screwed up by hiring his idiot 'agent' brother, who also screwed up.

The whole thing is and will continue to be absolutely hilarious as it's easy to laugh at each aspect of each side.

**stlducks** · 08-25-2021, 10:57 AM

Re: Official Spurs Thread

Originally posted by Krebstar

I think you mean Kane announced that Spurs will not sell him.

As for screwed up, Kane also screwed up by hiring his idiot 'agent' brother, who also screwed up.

The whole thing is and will continue to be absolutely hilarious as it's easy to laugh at each aspect of each side.

I agree, Kane and City both screwed up. Kane should have gone about the whole thing in a better way and fans would have supported his decision to leave. But doing the Neville interview and not showing up to training really hurt his image.

City just had to bid close to £150m and it would have been done but a starting bid of £75m+25m only upset Levy I’m sure.

For once Levy did the right thing and held out. Everyone knows Kane wants the scoring record so he will continue to try.

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