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  • ImTellinTim
    YNWA
    • Sep 2006
    • 33028

    #241
    Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Brahvocado
    Skrtel is just very reckless and honestly gets away with a lot of silly fouls and bonehead plays. He's not a top defender and you guys will need to replace him eventually if you want to become an elite European power again.
    His replacement is already on the team, and I'd like to see him get the starts. Sakho. Lovren was a good purchase, but yes, Liverpool needs a bona fide star central defender at some point. Midfield is also becoming a concern. Lucas shouldn't be starting, and Joe Allen isn't exactly a great first backup. I'd like to see Emre Can start getting some looks.
    Last edited by ImTellinTim; 08-17-2014, 08:08 PM.

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    • Brahvocado
      MVP
      • Oct 2012
      • 7480

      #242
      Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by ImTellinTim
      His replacement is already on the team, and I'd like to see him get the starts. Sakho. Lovren was a good purchase, but yes, Liverpool needs a bona fide star central defender at some point. Midfield is also becoming a concern. Lucas shouldn't be starting, and Joe Allen isn't exactly a great first backup. I'd like to see Emre Can start getting some looks.
      There's still a bunch of players that need to be weeded out on your way to becoming a consistent power again, it will take some time. I'd agree with your midfield assessment as well. To be honest, Rodgers toughest test is going to be whether or not he can drop Gerrard as a central figure in your midfield. I realize he was great for you guys last season, but it isn't going to happen like that again and Gerrard can't be a crucial feature if your club wants to move forward. He's not a Pirlo type player, which means he will get increasingly less effective with age. You guys have the same situation we have had with Lampard the last couple years, still a great player, but not the world class midfielder you need to progress.

      Steven Gerrard will either make or break Rodgers. Speaking as purely a supporter of the game, as opposed to a rival club supporter, it will be very interesting watching your club over the next couple years. I'm actually still not convinced Rodgers is the man that will take you forward, despite the fantastic season you guys had. I've said before to my buddies who are Pool fans that I think Rodgers is Van Gaal to your Bayern. He's going to help push your club forward a great deal but he won't be your Heynckes.

      That's my opinion anyways. Sorry I have too many friends that are Pool supporters.

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      • Notsle12
        Rookie
        • Jun 2014
        • 40

        #243
        Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ImTellinTim
        His replacement is already on the team, and I'd like to see him get the starts. Sakho. Lovren was a good purchase, but yes, Liverpool needs a bona fide star central defender at some point. Midfield is also becoming a concern. Lucas shouldn't be starting, and Joe Allen isn't exactly a great first backup. I'd like to see Emre Can start getting some looks.
        If Emre Can gets a couple of starts and can establish himself I think he will be a much better option to Lucas and Joe Allen. At the same time Glen Johnson shouldn't be starting he hasn't been convincing sense he came back from injury last season.

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        • carko32
          Rookie
          • Oct 2013
          • 270

          #244
          Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

          Well, most of our fullbacks aren't ready yet, since Moreno is up to speed yet and Flanagan is injured. So I think that Rodgers was thinking about Johnson as RB and Enrique as LB, but then decided that Manquillo is better option.

          I like Lovren, even though I was opposing his purchase. But he looks like he's going to be our next commanding CB and that he has overcome some issues he had at Lyon. And yes, Skrtel gets away with lots of fouls and I can't wait to see Sakho play instead. I think that somewhere over this season our defence will be Manquillo-Lovren-Sakho-Moreno. But before we have to figure out what to do with Johnson(who is probably going to stay this season, since managers doesn't like 2 youngsters as their only players on one position), Agger(he is probably at the moment our 4th defender, but who knows, since when he is healthy he can be our best D) and also with Coates, since he need playing time to improve(and he showed in preseason that he can be great defender one day).

          And yes, I'm hoping for Can instead of Lucas, his running and energy would be great for our 1-2 midfield, where Can and Henderson are box-to-box midfielders, and Gerrard is deep-lying-playmaker. Lucas was good in first half, but he is just a defensive midfielder, we doesn't offer anything in attack. Allen actually gave us some passing and speed that helped to move away from our goal and put more pressure on Soton's D.

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          • KG
            Welcome Back
            • Sep 2005
            • 17583

            #245
            Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

            IMO Pool needs a player like Lucas sitting in front of your back 4. Hendo is your box-to-box with Stevie as your deep playmaker. Lucas will stay back and is good in the tackle, plus he's a vet of the league. It's a shame injuries robbed him of a better career. He was starting to lessen the blow of Alonso leaving although I felt Pool fans wanted him to be something he wasn't.



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            • ImTellinTim
              YNWA
              • Sep 2006
              • 33028

              #246
              Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

              Yes, we do need a true defensive midfielder. However, Lucas hasn't played nearly up to what he did before the injuries. He turns the ball over way too much and is lackadaisical on the ball. That is bad in any system, but especially damaging for that position in this system where turnovers anywhere other than the final third put the central defense in an especially horrible position.

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              • VTPack919
                We Go Again
                • Jun 2003
                • 9708

                #247
                Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                Yes, we do need a true defensive midfielder. However, Lucas hasn't played nearly up to what he did before the injuries. He turns the ball over way too much and is lackadaisical on the ball. That is bad in any system, but especially damaging for that position in this system where turnovers anywhere other than the final third put the central defense in an especially horrible position.


                This is indeed where he falls short. It is frustrating to watch but you just kind of learn to live with it when it comes to Lucas.
                YNWA

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                • gopher_guy
                  The Kaptain
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 7389

                  #248
                  Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

                  Burnley!!!

                  That was a beauty!
                  University of Minnesota Golden Gopher Hockey
                  Minnesota's Pride on Ice: 1974, 1976, 1979, 2002 & 2003 NCAA National Champions

                  "The name on the front of the jersey is a hell of a lot more important than the one on the back."
                  -Herb Brooks

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                  • gopher_guy
                    The Kaptain
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 7389

                    #249
                    Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

                    Short lived, Costa a few minutes later.
                    University of Minnesota Golden Gopher Hockey
                    Minnesota's Pride on Ice: 1974, 1976, 1979, 2002 & 2003 NCAA National Champions

                    "The name on the front of the jersey is a hell of a lot more important than the one on the back."
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                    • Bellsprout
                      Hard Times.
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 25652

                      #250
                      Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

                      It was fun for a minute, Burnley.

                      Literally a minute. I dreamed a dream in that minute.
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                      Originally posted by l3ulvl
                      A lot of you guys seem pretty cool, but you have wieners.

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                      • The_Wise_One
                        Why Not Us?
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2633

                        #251
                        The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

                        Yep that's why they brought Costa in.

                        EDIT: Cesc to Schurrle what a goal!!!
                        SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
                        MISSOURI TIGERS
                        CHELSEA FC

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                        • dubcity
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • May 2012
                          • 17876

                          #252
                          Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

                          Gotta love seeing these recently promoted teams give their home supporters something to cheer for early on.



                          I mean they're probably gonna get destroyed, but still.

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                          • gopher_guy
                            The Kaptain
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 7389

                            #253
                            Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

                            What a pass from Fabregas.
                            University of Minnesota Golden Gopher Hockey
                            Minnesota's Pride on Ice: 1974, 1976, 1979, 2002 & 2003 NCAA National Champions

                            "The name on the front of the jersey is a hell of a lot more important than the one on the back."
                            -Herb Brooks

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                            • ImTellinTim
                              YNWA
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 33028

                              #254
                              Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

                              You poked the bear. You never poke the bear.

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                              • Krebstar
                                is looking at stats.
                                • May 2005
                                • 12906

                                #255
                                Re: The 2014-15 EPL Discussion Thread

                                Just give them the trophy now.

                                (Chelsea)

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