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  • southernmetalhead
    Inter Miami
    • Dec 2012
    • 3862

    #1276
    Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

    Modric comes on in the 75th, scores the winner in the 81st.

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    • ImTellinTim
      YNWA
      • Sep 2006
      • 33028

      #1277
      Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

      Paul Pogba officially banned 4 years for elevated levels of testosterone following a test after a match he didn't even play in.

      Tough break for a good kid.

      I've seen a lot of articles/interviews lately that basically say for years and years, and in various nations (but especially Italy and Spain), that doping was an open secret in the sport and nothing was done. I wonder what kind of stuff is going to come out over the years about that.
      Last edited by ImTellinTim; 02-29-2024, 01:04 PM.

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      • Krebstar
        is looking at stats.
        • May 2005
        • 12904

        #1278
        Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ImTellinTim
        I've seen a lot of articles/interviews lately that basically say for years and years, and in various nations (but especially Italy and Spain), that doping was an open secret in the sport and nothing was done. I wonder what kind of stuff is going to come out over the years about that.
        It's definitely out there—without a doubt. However, whenever it's players from English clubs talking about it (Neville, Keane) I can't help but wonder that maybe, just maybe, certain clubs and even countries were well ahead of the Premier League regarding conditioning, nutrition, recovery, etc. and some of those former players don't want to admit or realize how archaic their training and approach to fitness were. (Yes, even though Keane had his cheese sandwich incident, as a club I'm sure United were still behind those on the continent.)

        Eventually everyone caught up, but there was clearly a time when clubs viewed player fitness very differently in England (cup of tea and a smoke at the half, pints during the off-season) and Italy.

        Yes, there is and was doping, but just as England was far behind tactically from the continent (Ferguson publicly talked about this, I believe), there was a time when they were also very behind regarding fitness.
        Last edited by Krebstar; 03-02-2024, 09:57 AM.

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        • southernmetalhead
          Inter Miami
          • Dec 2012
          • 3862

          #1279
          Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

          What a weird bounce this ball takes on the goalkeeper.

          Heidenheim's Benedikt Gimber scores an own goal thanks to goalkeeper Kevin Muller's calamitous mistake.

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          • DrJones
            All Star
            • Mar 2003
            • 9107

            #1280
            Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

            Trying to put what Leverkusen is doing into perspective:

            1. I'm reasonably sure that their 39-match undefeated streak (in all competitions) from the start of a season is the record for a major European league. The best I could find was 1991/92 Milan (35 games) and 1994/95 Ajax (32 games)

            2. The closest any club has come to a "perfect" season is that 94/95 Ajax team
            - Won Eredivisie undefeated
            - Won Champions League undefeated
            - Won Dutch SuperCup
            - Lost in KNVB Cup QF
            - Final record, all competitions: 37W 11D 1L

            3. The only club I could find that won a treble with an undefeated league season is 2010-11 Porto
            - Won Primeira Liga undefeated
            - Won Europa League - but lost a leg in both the two-leg R32 and SF rounds
            - Won Taça de Portugal - but lost a leg in the two-leg SF
            - Won Supertaça (Community Shield equivalent)
            - Lost in 3rd round of Taça de Liga (League Cup equivalent)

            4. Leverkusen (no league titles to date in their 120-year existence) has had more agonizing near-misses than any other club in a big league (and maybe any team in any sport). Since the 85/86 season, here's how they've placed in the Bundesliga:

            1st ZERO
            2nd 5
            3rd 6
            4th 5
            5th 7
            6th 6

            7th-9th 6
            10th-12th 1
            13th-15th 2
            16th-18th 0

            The most definitive "Neverkusen" experience was May 2002, where they managed to blow a 5-point lead with 3 games to go for their 1st Bundesliga title, then proceeded to lose the DFB-Pokal Final and Champions League Final in the same week.

            5. Here's where Leverkusen is currently:

            a. A 13-point lead over 11-time defending champions Bayern Munich with 7 games to go. No team in a Big 5 league has ever lost the title when leading by 13+ points at any point in a season.

            b. A DFB-Pokal SF vs Fortuna Dusseldorf (currently 3rd in the 2nd division) this Wednesday. If Leverkusen wins, they would face the winner of Kaiserslautern (currently 16th in the 2nd division) and Saarbrucken (currently 11th in the 3rd division).

            c. A Europa League QF vs West Ham. Winning Europa would be a big, big ask with Liverpool and Milan still in the bracket.

            Oh, and have I mentioned that during this streak, Leverkusen has scored NINE game-winning or game-tying goals in the 90th minute or later?

            So soccer's equivalent to the Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Indians/Guardians, and pre-2018 Washington Capitals will almost certainly architect one of the greatest stories in football history, or the biggest bottle job ever. With a (small) chance of an unprecedented perfect season as well. Fun!
            Originally posted by Thrash13
            Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
            Originally posted by slickdtc
            DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
            Originally posted by Kipnis22
            yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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            • ImTellinTim
              YNWA
              • Sep 2006
              • 33028

              #1281
              Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

              We have to acknowledge the funniest part of the story again - Harry Kane showing up at Bayern and them not winning the league for the first time in 12 years.

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              • Brahvocado
                MVP
                • Oct 2012
                • 7480

                #1282
                Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

                Is Pulisic…actually a really good player?

                No that cant be right.

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                • Krebstar
                  is looking at stats.
                  • May 2005
                  • 12904

                  #1283
                  Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Brahvocado
                  Is Pulisic…actually a really good player?

                  No that cant be right.

                  Nah, just a worse Freddy Adu, right?

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                  • Brahvocado
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 7480

                    #1284
                    Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Krebstar
                    Nah, just a worse Freddy Adu, right?
                    Glad Chelsea got rid of him so Mason Mount could flourish

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                    • bhurst99
                      All Star
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 9137

                      #1285
                      Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

                      Congrats Leverkusen. Somebody said it was the most well behaved pitch invasion after a game ever. Pretty great scenes

                      I love to see underdog stories in sports. It's great for the German league after 11 years of Bayern Munich dominance.

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                      • Kayla
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 178

                        #1286
                        Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

                        Switzerland about to win against Germany. It has been a very solid performance by the Swiss team against the hosts.
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                        • dubcity
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • May 2012
                          • 17872

                          #1287
                          Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

                          If Bellingham, Vini, and Mbappe all stay healthy...yikes.

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                          • Krebstar
                            is looking at stats.
                            • May 2005
                            • 12904

                            #1288
                            Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

                            Leverkusen v Leipzig was a great game—watch a replay or some long highlights if you can.

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                            • dubcity
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • May 2012
                              • 17872

                              #1289
                              Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

                              The new Champion's League format is ... what even is it? [emoji19]

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                              • Krebstar
                                is looking at stats.
                                • May 2005
                                • 12904

                                #1290
                                Re: The All Other Leagues/Competitions Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by dubcity
                                The new Champion's League format is ... what even is it? [emoji19]

                                I love something other than the same group stage that became stale in the past, but I hate the idea of no home/away fixtures.

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