2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

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  • 3304Life
    MVP
    • Sep 2016
    • 3002

    #301
    2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

    Thank you, KG. I appreciate that man

    I think what has been pretty warming to see is that the reports coming out from people in the city and at the stadium, on both sides, paint a picture of mismanagement by the police and by UEFA themselves. Unfortunately this hasn’t extended to a lot of English fans who seem to be taking the version of events being told by the French government. But that doesn’t matter, it’s the role journalists and other witnesses will have in the likely legal proceedings that will matter

    The damage this could have for UEFA going forward is huge. The Super League basically gave them a free run at keeping their stranglehold on European football. Yet they announced the changes to the UCL format, 3 of the semi finalists were Super League members and the eventual winners were the driving force behind it. Having something like this happen at your flagship event is only going to heighten resentment against them as an organisation and call into question their judgement, especially given some of the information I’ve seen about the Saint-Denis area. It is not somewhere that should be hosting a final of this profile

    I’m sure my son will be fine with it eventually. We’ve been to Anfield plenty of times and a couple other stadiums around England and never had any problems there. He’s maybe a little too young to understand the different factors at play and once August comes around I’m sure he’ll be itching to get back into the stadium but Sunday was really hard trying to keep him calm. Like a lot of other people there on Saturday, and it may come across as bull**** to deflect from losing, but I don’t think many people really cared too much with the result afterwards because everything before and after the match could have put a really dark shadow over the game itself


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    • Krebstar
      is looking at stats.
      • May 2005
      • 12904

      #302
      Re: 2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

      Originally posted by 3304Life
      It is not somewhere that should be hosting a final of this profile
      It hosted the final in 2000 and 2006, and has hosted a World Cup final, as well as the Rugby World Cup twice, plus it hosts several Six Nations matches each year.

      My point? It was an absolute failure on the part of UEFA and French authorities on this occasion, and part of that might be due to English fans being in attendance and judged immediately in an unfair light.

      That area has been **** (highest in crime in Europe, basically) for many years.

      It wasn't exactly the location as much as it was authorities not giving a **** this time (and a large English contingent traveling was surely part of that, even though they won't admit it.)
      Last edited by Krebstar; 05-31-2022, 04:36 PM.

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      • 3304Life
        MVP
        • Sep 2016
        • 3002

        #303
        Re: 2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

        I agree that the location can be used for major events when the right planning is out in place, including increased policing numbers (both civilian and military - we only saw military on the weekend but that doesn’t mean there were not civilian police there) and generally increased stewarding with the correct training

        The problem here is that UEFA gave Paris the final less than 3 months ago which is not a lot of time to hire, train and prepare people for a job which is highly demanding giving the significance of the event. This could have been repeated in any city, but the extra demand placed on the people working in and around the Stade de France due to the reputation of the local area clearly wasn’t something that they considered

        I’m generally of the opinion that the safest options will always be hosting major finals in areas that have good transport links but are not in the center of a major residential area, so it’s not easily accessible for opportunistic locals. I know this isn’t always possible as some of the biggest and most suitable stadia for finals like this are in those areas but they were just not equipped for it here and the police and stewards acted in a panic, which embodied the whole selection process of giving Paris the final initially


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        • ImTellinTim
          YNWA
          • Sep 2006
          • 33028

          #304
          Re: 2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

          French government officials trotted out to double down on lies. Really amazing example on how not to handle a massive ****-up.

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          • ImTellinTim
            YNWA
            • Sep 2006
            • 33028

            #305
            Re: 2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

            Ah so a few hours after Real Madrid confirmed their supporters experienced the same thing everyone has been saying happened, UEFA magically releases an apology and says there will be an investigation. Funny how that works.

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            • ImTellinTim
              YNWA
              • Sep 2006
              • 33028

              #306
              Re: 2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

              On a lighter note, Thiago's grass-grazer was voted goal of the tournament.

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              • ~LiverpoolRed~
                YNWA
                • Dec 2008
                • 10755

                #307
                Re: 2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

                ^ Another good goal was Alex Telles in the Man Utd/Villarreal game.

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                • Brahvocado
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 7480

                  #308
                  Re: 2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

                  CCTV footage from the stadium of all the violence has been automatically deleted since its past 7 days, and by an absolutely shocking turn of events nobody remembered to make a copy before this happened.

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                  • ImTellinTim
                    YNWA
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 33028

                    #309
                    2021-2022 UEFA Competitions Thread

                    Originally posted by Brahvocado
                    CCTV footage from the stadium of all the violence has been automatically deleted since its past 7 days, and by an absolutely shocking turn of events nobody remembered to make a copy before this happened.

                    “We have concluded the investigation of ourselves and have found we did nothing wrong” -Police

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