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  • sdrotar
    OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
    • Jul 2002
    • 1055

    #46
    Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

    I'd like to stress that I made no judgement on this - I merely wanted to clarify and correct what turned out to be inaccuracies in my Community Day thread based in the information I was given.

    I'm not fond of the "game-killer" type posts that get thrown around at this point in time, because I feel that they're premature.
    Moreover, what constitutes such things varies widely from one person to another.

    EA Tiburon is aware of this, and I have spoken with a representative today.
    I'm still optimistic that some sort of response is in the offing, and it may be best to reserve judgment until that surfaces.
    Shawn Drotar
    Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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    • utexas
      Greatness
      • Jan 2003
      • 4868

      #47
      Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

      Doesn't bother me at all because I never try to make my franchise mode replicate real life, because it is impossible. I treat my franchise like its own fantasy world full of crazy trades, early retirements and now hall of famers that I can load up on my Cowboys!!!
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      • quietcool72
        Pro
        • Aug 2003
        • 995

        #48
        Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

        Originally posted by sdrotar
        I'd like to stress that I made no judgement on this - I merely wanted to clarify and correct what turned out to be inaccuracies in my Community Day thread based in the information I was given.

        I'm not fond of the "game-killer" type posts that get thrown around at this point in time, because I feel that they're premature.
        Moreover, what constitutes such things varies widely from one person to another.

        EA Tiburon is aware of this, and I have spoken with a representative today.
        I'm still optimistic that some sort of response is in the offing, and it may be best to reserve judgment until that surfaces.
        Shawn,
        I don't know- the potential "fatigue problem"- if true- might even rival this problem in terms of severity.

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        • Kelverin
          MVP
          • Mar 2004
          • 1479

          #49
          Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

          Contol all the teams and do not sign the Hall of Famers. Game killer? Not even close bud!
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          • sdrotar
            OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
            • Jul 2002
            • 1055

            #50
            Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

            I've received a response directly from the Madden team.

            Apparently, the people who told me that HOFers were not going to be added to Superstar/Franchise rosters at Community Day were "misinformed".

            "...the (design) team wanted to give players the ability to use HOF players on current rosters. This is intentional."

            ***

            This is the workaround recommended by the Madden team if "players
            do not want to use this feature":

            "
            Hall of Fame players are added to the roster on boot-up and whenever you move up in Madden Gamer Level. In order to prevent these (players) from being on your Franchise team, you have the following options:

            1) Save off the roster upon boot-up, and load once you are in-game and then head into Franchise mode.

            2) Go online and get the latest roster and start a Franchise. This will also remove the players.
            Once you have started a Franchise, these players won't show up, as the roster is saved with the Franchise."

            To add to that, if you already have a saved Profile with a Madden Gamer Level high enough to unlock HOFers immediately, I'd recommend copying it to a memory card, removing it from your hard drive (if applicable), and booting the game without it so it doesn't auto-load.

            You'll have the default rosters (and the ability to load customized ones from memory) and bypass the MGL/HOF functionality. Then, after the Franchise/Superstar is saved, you could load your profile normally.

            The above instructions should also apply to Superstar mode as well as Franchise.

            ***

            Now, seeing as how quickly everyone jumped on EA here, I'd like to point out that their response regarding a workaround took only a few business hours after I called them yesterday, informing them of this and alerting them that I would post that evening in advance.

            Thanks specifically go to Michael Johnson of EA, who worked after hours last night after we spoke and coordinated this workaround so quickly today, and the Madden design team for getting back to us and responding to the community's need for information.
            Shawn Drotar
            Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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            • adembroski
              49ers
              • Jul 2002
              • 5829

              #51
              Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

              So basically what you are saying is that HoF players will NOT auto load onto a franchise roster, only a roster file, so once we do start a franchise, it will only load with current HoFs, but not add new ones?
              There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

              The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

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              • sdrotar
                OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                • Jul 2002
                • 1055

                #52
                Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

                Originally posted by adembroski
                So basically what you are saying is that HoF players will NOT auto load onto a franchise roster, only a roster file, so once we do start a franchise, it will only load with current HoFs, but not add new ones?
                That's my understanding, yes.
                The key is starting with a "clean" file, and that may require not loading a profile first.
                Shawn Drotar
                Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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                • Altimus
                  Chelsea, Assemble!
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 27283

                  #53
                  Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

                  About the gamer level, how would you unlock legends on first boot if this is the first time your playing the game and Madden 06 didn't have gamer level. Or are you saying it takes your Madden 06 profile into effect?

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                  • sdrotar
                    OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 1055

                    #54
                    Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

                    Originally posted by PrimeTime23
                    About the gamer level, how would you unlock legends on first boot if this is the first time your playing the game and Madden 06 didn't have gamer level. Or are you saying it takes your Madden 06 profile into effect?
                    No, you wouldn't unlock anything at first boot - and now you know to save a "clean" file immediately thereafter if you don't want HOFers in your Franchise/Superstar rosters.
                    Shawn Drotar
                    Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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                    • Steelerfan2k1
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1451

                      #55
                      Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

                      I'm missing something though....

                      In the workaround instructions, it says that all you have to do is start with a clean roster file when starting your franchise - and everything should be fine (regular rosters, no Hall-of-famers).

                      OK - I get that part - but, I thought the whole point of this "feature" was that Hall-of-Famers would be added to your franchise as you unlock them with your Madden Gamer level. So - if I am in week six of my first season in franchise and my gamer level goes up (thus unlocking Sammy Baugh and Paul Warfield) - then Baugh and Warfield would be automatically added to my franchise.

                      My question is - how do we stop the game from adding HOFers to our franchise as our Madden Gamer Level increases?

                      Or - is this going to have to be what others have suggested - that we should never save our profile in franchise games?

                      Am I missing something obvious here? I am far less concerned with how to start a clean franchise than I am with keeping the HOFers out as my Madden Gamer Level increases.

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                      • timotaeyo
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 13

                        #56
                        Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

                        does this glitch involve both 360 versions or only the hall of fame edition?

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                        • ronnyballgame
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                          • Mar 2004
                          • 1062

                          #57
                          Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

                          What I think he is trying to say is that, once you go onto EA sports on xbox live and download the new roster, and make that your default roster, that the default roster that came with the game and the HOF guys, will no longer be default and overwrote, thereinfore, no HOF'ers will be popping up in the dynasty mode?
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                          • sdrotar
                            OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1055

                            #58
                            Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

                            Originally posted by Steelerfan2k1
                            I'm missing something though....

                            In the workaround instructions, it says that all you have to do is start with a clean roster file when starting your franchise - and everything should be fine (regular rosters, no Hall-of-famers).

                            OK - I get that part - but, I thought the whole point of this "feature" was that Hall-of-Famers would be added to your franchise as you unlock them with your Madden Gamer level. So - if I am in week six of my first season in franchise and my gamer level goes up (thus unlocking Sammy Baugh and Paul Warfield) - then Baugh and Warfield would be automatically added to my franchise.

                            My question is - how do we stop the game from adding HOFers to our franchise as our Madden Gamer Level increases?

                            Or - is this going to have to be what others have suggested - that we should never save our profile in franchise games?

                            Am I missing something obvious here? I am far less concerned with how to start a clean franchise than I am with keeping the HOFers out as my Madden Gamer Level increases.
                            They get added to your "default roster", not your saved Franchise/Superstar modes. Once you save a Franchise/Superstar file, that roster becomes isolated, as I understand it.
                            Shawn Drotar
                            Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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                            • coogrfan
                              In Fritz We Trust
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 15645

                              #59
                              Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

                              Originally posted by timotaeyo
                              does this glitch involve both 360 versions or only the hall of fame edition?
                              An excellent question (and I should know, I asked the very same question in the other thread on this topic )

                              Here's the response I recieved:

                              Originally Posted by fossen
                              The game discs in the two versions are the same. There's an extra disc with the bonuses in the HoF edition, and special packaging.

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                              • Steelerfan2k1
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 1451

                                #60
                                Re: "Unlocked" Hall of Famers Appear in Xbox 360 Superstar/Franchise Modes - REPORT

                                Originally posted by ronnyballgame
                                What I think he is trying to say is that, once you go onto EA sports on xbox live and download the new roster, and make that your default roster, that the default roster that came with the game and the HOF guys, will no longer be default and overwrote, thereinfore, no HOF'ers will be popping up in the dynasty mode?

                                I definitely get this point - when you are starting with a "clean" franchise. If you use the default roster or a downloaded roster update when you first start a franchise, then the HOFers will not be there.

                                But - my question from my previous post remains. I thought the whole point of the feature is that HOFers will be added to franchise and superstar modes as you unlock them with your Madden Gamer Level. Thus - even if you start with a "clean" franchise - HOFers would still be added every time your Gamer Level progresses and unlocks a Hall-of-Famer.

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