You Want Some Cheese With That?

[calcutta]

Re: You Want Some Cheese With That?

Cheesing in soccer games:

On offense, the only 'plays' they use are ground passing and cut-backs. No use of long passes or even crosses, even when they have a comfortable lead.

In defense, they have their thumb on the "call second defender" button throughout the match. EA should disable this button for online games IMO, or at least tone its effect down significantly.

[onetonmartin]

When I first read this title I thought you were calling out all the winers on this board.

[Computalover]

first off folks, im 40 years old.. i look at this from a different perspective. This is not real football folks.. its first and foremost a game. you will have folks online who do not understand or dont care if its real football or not. and even in real football you have cheese, err.. trick plays.

My point is dont assume that an online opponent will play how YOU think they should play. thats the risk of online gaming. I have been called a cheeser once, simply because i use the same base defense most of the time. Hell i do that online, offline with friends, etc. thats how I PLAY.. thats how i have been doing since MADDEN 10000 B. C. lol I also learned to counter some cheesey plays as well.. or an option / pitch play.. same thing.. I use a LB to run along with the QB, but dont tackle him.. string him out to the sideline (in NCAA 09) someone called me cheese for that! its what you do in REAL football I told him.. if they use randy moss all the time.. double team him.. etc etc.

Even in COD4 there are the same types of folks.. especially the ones who never shoot.. but stab everybody all the time. they use the quiet perk and just go around stabbing. another one is when they jump on buildings and ledges and snipe all day.. well.. thats how they play and you have to counter it..

The only way to truly counter cheese is to know your opponent. If they have the cheese rep.. dont play them. I play madden / NCAA the way i know how.. I dont quit if im being blown out.. because I played real HS / College FB and we were constantly being blown out.. (yeah my D II school sucked munkey nutz. back in the 80's ) lol! but we never quit.. game or not.. I play to the final second.

[Computalover]

oh.. i forgot.. I use Maryland, the Orioles and the Ravens exclusively.. and i use the Wizards in basketball.. win or loose.. they are my teams!

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

Re: You Want Some Cheese With That?

Whoa, whoa my friend. Hate is such a strong word man. Would He approve of you hating somebody just because they cheat on a video game?

So lets rephrase that: You will always dislike the times when people play a game unfairly.

Nah man I agree with him. I hate cheesers also. You can't do nuthin do about it either. They just cheese and cheese until they succeed in whatever they're tryin to do. And considering the fact it's an online game and you don't PERSONALLY know the person, what's the harm in hating them? lol

[KG]

Re: You Want Some Cheese With That?

Cheesing in soccer games:

On offense, the only 'plays' they use are ground passing and cut-backs. No use of long passes or even crosses, even when they have a comfortable lead.

In defense, they have their thumb on the "call second defender" button throughout the match. EA should disable this button for online games IMO, or at least tone its effect down significantly.

while i agree with the 1st part....on defense because of the poor AI by your teammates your forced to put pressure on the ball with the 2nd defender...if not the opponent can pass the ball around all match...ala Barca vs Man U this year

[CarryTheWeight]

Re: You Want Some Cheese With That?

Do any of you remember NHL 2K6 for Xbox 360? Worst online gaming of my life right there. There was some "super deke" that would always make it past the goalie no matter what the circumstance, and it turned games ugly in an instant.

If devs got rid of "money plays" like NHL 2K6's deke through testing, online sports gaming would be much better off. Of course, there's no way to eliminate the stupidity of online gamers through testing, so my point is probably moot. There are always going to be idiots out there.

[firespy93]

I played a dude in APF the other night that ran his offense out of the punt formation for the entire first half. I have never seen anything like it in my life. After getting picked and sacked to death he pulled the plug in the 3rd quarter. Cheesers have no soul.

thats funny cuz there are some high school teams in california that actually do that: http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=825031. so is that stiil cheesing?

[willythedemon]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here.... I've been playing online for several years now, and yes, have been frustrated by "cheesers".

One thing that I find to be pretty consistent with "cheese" though, is "whine".

Let me ask you this.... were Houston Nutt and this year's NCAA 09 cover athlete "cheesers" last year when they used the wild hog formation?

Is National Champion HC Les Miles a "cheeser" for going for it on 4th down repeatedly in insane situations last season?

Are 80% of high school head coaches across the country "cheesers" for putting their best athlete at QB and running a variation of the wing - t?

No.. I think they are innovators. All of these things can be stopped (except for les miles). All of these things have been stopped. Just use strategy to overcome and put away the "whine".

[realtalktruth]

Re: You Want Some Cheese With That?

I'm going to play devil's advocate here.... I've been playing online for several years now, and yes, have been frustrated by "cheesers".

One thing that I find to be pretty consistent with "cheese" though, is "whine".

Let me ask you this.... were Houston Nutt and this year's NCAA 09 cover athlete "cheesers" last year when they used the wild hog formation?

Is National Champion HC Les Miles a "cheeser" for going for it on 4th down repeatedly in insane situations last season?

Are 80% of high school head coaches across the country "cheesers" for putting their best athlete at QB and running a variation of the wing - t?

No.. I think they are innovators. All of these things can be stopped (except for les miles). All of these things have been stopped. Just use strategy to overcome and put away the "whine".

try and stop the cheese or figure out strategies to beat it? no way, whining is more productive and besides, you can always whine to the developer to get rid of it for next year.

[Mobster06]

Re: You Want Some Cheese With That?

nice article