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  • HANDSWARD_EA
    Rory McIlroy PGA TOUR Designer
    • Mar 2013
    • 62

    #1

    Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

    We appreciate the fan feedback we’ve been getting about the TOUR Gameplay Style and have been paying close attention. Most seem to be enjoying it, and we’ve heard your ideas for how to make it even better. One thing you’ve asked for is more variation for miss-hits left and right, and we’re testing some potential options right now and hope to have something we can include in the game soon.

    Enjoy the game and stay tuned for more news in the coming weeks.
    Senior Designer - EA Tiburon
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  • Danimal
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 2198

    #2
    Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

    Seems to me there have been more complaints about the putting mechanics than anything but you would know for sure.
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    • Barto
      Rookie
      • Jan 2007
      • 162

      #3
      Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

      Originally posted by Danimal
      Seems to me there have been more complaints about the putting mechanics than anything but you would know for sure.
      Agreed. The biggest issue i have with gameplay are 2 fold:

      1. Too many putts rolling over the lip (although i am adjusting)
      2. Strike meter for pitch, chip and flop shots is backwards

      Fix these along with adding a few more courses, enriching the career experience and adding a few more online match types are the only major issues i have at this time.

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      • cblake78
        Rookie
        • Jul 2015
        • 70

        #4
        Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

        Originally posted by HANDSWARD_EA
        We appreciate the fan feedback we’ve been getting about the TOUR Gameplay Style and have been paying close attention. Most seem to be enjoying it, and we’ve heard your ideas for how to make it even better. One thing you’ve asked for is more variation for miss-hits left and right, and we’re testing some potential options right now and hope to have something we can include in the game soon.

        Enjoy the game and stay tuned for more news in the coming weeks.
        I'll echo what everyone else is saying:

        1. Fix the putting
        2. Add more courses/modes/golfers
        3. Fix the inverted ball strike meter
        4. Penalize the player more for mis-hits

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        • DivotMaker
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 2703

          #5
          Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

          Thanks HANDS!

          Along with these suggestions, could you look at decoupling putter distance to the aiming arrow allowing for us to judge the pace through the swing versus hitting to a predetermined distance. Along with a touch of tempo appropriate for the pace of a putting stroke would be outstanding. Along with this, any chance on getting an additional camera view behind the hole when putting without grids? With the same cameras as the swing camera (High, Medium, Default, Low) only behind the hole would really make putting more rewarding.

          Option to disable tempo meter.

          More winds and fast greens for Career.

          Agree with comments to decouple the Default swing and chosen club, but also removing the distance information from the cursor. Along these lines, could we also take a look at the backswing tempo and maybe make it a tad more forgiving from the standpoint of being able to dial down a 3/4 or knock down shot without having it be as quick as a full swing.

          Lastly, would like to see an online Simulation or Custom TOUR Daily and Weekly tournament if at all possible.

          When I think of more ideas, I'll come back to share them here. Yeah, I know, I don't ask for much do I?

          Thank you again for listening to the simulation users!

          Tim
          PC / Xbox One X

          Xbox One Elite Controller

          The Golf Club 2

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          • goillini03
            MVP
            • Nov 2005
            • 1247

            #6
            Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

            Originally posted by cblake78
            I'll echo what everyone else is saying:

            1. Fix the putting
            2. Add more courses/modes/golfers
            3. Fix the inverted ball strike meter
            4. Penalize the player more for mis-hits
            Agree here although I have figured out putting. To be honest, without a more in-depth career mode these fixes are not the big of a deal.

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            • pencerm
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 105

              #7
              Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

              I'll echo what everyone has said, but I'll add one more. Nearly every single shot I take shows as "slow" and cuts anywhere from 2-13 percent of my shot power. I'm not sure if I'm the only one, or if there's something I'm missing, but this drives me nuts.

              Otherwise not much else to mention gameplay wise. I'm enjoying it!

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              • OnlookerDelay
                MVP
                • Oct 2003
                • 3442

                #8
                Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

                [EDIT]: I see Divotmaker's already beat me to the punch, but I'll toss in my thoughts that incorporate a lot of his.

                Justin, my #1 request four Tour gameplay would be to allow gamers to in essence, create another level of Tour difficulty. Divotmaker (Tim) calls it Tour Custom. It looks like this:

                Swing Mechanic: Advanced

                Swing Difficulty: Hard

                Spin Control: Off

                Green Grid: On

                Putt Read: Off

                Aiming Arc Off

                Zoom: Off

                Wind Gust: On

                Lie Effect: Advanced

                Shot Shaping On

                I would to add to that the ability to get rid of the swing "fill meter" and not show it until after impact for all shots, including putting. I find to I actually come closer to matching the desired backswing and tempo by watching my golfer's animation, but the fill meter is just enough of a distraction to where it disrupts my concentration a good bit of the time. The swing process feels more natural and immersive to me without having to watch meters or gauges on the HUD during the swing.

                I also support Divotmaker's idea to get have the club default to it's full shot setup when you choose it and put the burden on the gamer to adjust their loft and swing strength to achieve the desired shot and distance. This would put more of a premium on feel and intuition.

                Divotmaker also has an idea that sounds feasible for putting that sounds good in theory. I'm away from my XB1 until Saturday so I can't test it with my few minutes of remaining EA time, but he's proposing having the putt aiming cursor have a fixed distance of let's say 100 feet for example, and put the burden on the gamer to modulate the stroke with the the stick proportionally to execute the putt. Again, this would draw more upon feel and I think would result in a more engaged level of interaction.

                Finally, I'd like to suggest that the swing rhythm be a factor in the accuracy of the shot. It is too easy to hit a straight shot, even with Tim's Tour Custom settings. By rhythm, I mean have the ideal downswing be 4 times the speed of the backswing. If the gamer is too quick with their ratio rhythm, they would pull/draw the ball, and if they were too slow with it, they would /push/fade the ball. I've seen this work in another golf game (although the swing is not in real time), but it's something special and adds an all new dimension to the game.
                Last edited by OnlookerDelay; 07-17-2015, 11:14 AM.
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                • Klocker
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3239

                  #9
                  Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

                  Option to Remove green ball


                  Default to full shot (and/or in other modes, Show what shot is pre-selected by CPU for the current shot, ie chip, pitch etc instead of "custom")


                  Optional putting mode allowing stroking at or toward 100% (if you can find a way to make it touch friendly enough to control speed)


                  Fix flop shot animation to actually set up open and make full swing with ball coming off of face properly with correct loft


                  A little more variance in left right misses (which you are already doing, cool)


                  Option to adjust stick sensitivity/deadzone on controller


                  Allow us to "walk" around our shot somewhat to see the elevation and grounds and when on green to see the hole from other angles and to slope etc.


                  Loving the game so far looking forward to improvements!


                  Edit: added to my list thanks for listenng
                  Last edited by Klocker; 07-17-2015, 11:59 AM.

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                  • mrsaito
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 743

                    #10
                    Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

                    Originally posted by HANDSWARD_EA
                    We appreciate the fan feedback we’ve been getting about the TOUR Gameplay Style and have been paying close attention. Most seem to be enjoying it, and we’ve heard your ideas for how to make it even better. One thing you’ve asked for is more variation for miss-hits left and right, and we’re testing some potential options right now and hope to have something we can include in the game soon.

                    Enjoy the game and stay tuned for more news in the coming weeks.
                    Hands - Right / left mi****s *are* very important to the community; it seems like a lot of folks are working around that by using the 3 click system. I for one would prefer to use the stick and encourage you to continue in the endeavor for introducing more R/L variation.

                    I also think the game will be more marketable if both swing types are equally robust.

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                    • simgameonly
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 535

                      #11
                      Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

                      We appreciate the fan feedback we’ve been getting about the TOUR Gameplay Style and have been paying close attention. Most seem to be enjoying it, and we’ve heard your ideas for how to make it even better. One thing you’ve asked for is more variation for miss-hits left and right, and we’re testing some potential options right now and hope to have something we can include in the game soon.

                      Enjoy the game and stay tuned for more news in the coming weeks.

                      If you increase the miss-hits left and right, preferrably by adding the diagonal swing as an option and add swing based putting as opposed to just being locked in by the cursor then i will by this game immediately. This game being too easy right now is what is preventing me from purchasing it, but i desperately want to
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                      • HANDSWARD_EA
                        Rory McIlroy PGA TOUR Designer
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 62

                        #12
                        Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

                        Originally posted by Barto
                        [*]Too many putts rolling over the lip (although i am adjusting)
                        This is a known issue that we are working on. It seems to be worst at specific courses on slower course conditions. Hopefully it plays a lot better after the next update.
                        Senior Designer - EA Tiburon
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                        • DivotMaker
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2703

                          #13
                          Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

                          Originally posted by simgameonly
                          If you increase the miss-hits left and right, preferrably by adding the diagonal swing as an option and add swing based putting as opposed to just being locked in by the cursor then i will by this game immediately. This game being too easy right now is what is preventing me from purchasing it, but i desperately want to
                          I think you are going to like where they are going with this. Please don't ask me what it is because I can't tell you, but it is an improvement that will have a huge impact on the challenge in TOUR.
                          PC / Xbox One X

                          Xbox One Elite Controller

                          The Golf Club 2

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                          • simgameonly
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 535

                            #14
                            Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

                            Originally posted by DivotMaker
                            I think you are going to like where they are going with this. Please don't ask me what it is because I can't tell you, but it is an improvement that will have a huge impact on the challenge in TOUR.
                            Yay, hooray sounds great, i am also hoping for the faster greens before they got nerfed, and a length/tempo based putting that replicates a real life stroke(not cursor based) one thats more penal with an improper stroke, but i am so encouraged, just thrilled we are getting feedback from the develepors and they hear the pleas of people who want the game harder
                            "Another brick in the house"- Lloyd Carr after Michigan's victory over the Washington Huskies in the 2002-2003 season.

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #15
                              Re: Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

                              Originally posted by HANDSWARD_EA
                              This is a known issue that we are working on. It seems to be worst at specific courses on slower course conditions. Hopefully it plays a lot better after the next update.
                              This is outstanding to hear, one of the most frustrating things I've experienced is to actually correctly read the speed and break of a long birdie putt only to have it go right over the hole.

                              I've had the one's where I hit the putt to hard and it hits the back of the cup and pops up as it should so it's clear there is somewhat of an issue there and it most often seems to happen on longer putts.

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