Playing Madden 19 OOTB ....

[Lilly Of The Valley]

For those not hip, OOTB is defined as "Out of the box", with no patches or tuners. The recent patch HAS DESTROYED Simulation Stats, in regards to fumbles + QB stats.

Were their any game breaking issues with Madden before the 1st patch? If not, then we should give the disc version a chance.

[derboehsevincent]

Re: Playing Madden 19 OOTB ....

Simulation Stats are not gamebraking ffs. You have to play the game to count a bug as gamebreaking. So it's just an annoyance which needs to be fixed but not the big thing everyone is bragging about.

Is there even a Disc Version? I highly doubt this.

[underdog13]

Re: Playing Madden 19 OOTB ....

You sure about that? Qb rushing stats weren't working before this last patch as well.

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[HesiPullupJimbo]

Re: Playing Madden 19 OOTB ....

Simulation Stats are not gamebraking ffs. You have to play the game to count a bug as gamebreaking. So it's just an annoyance which needs to be fixed but not the big thing everyone is bragging about.

Is there even a Disc Version? I highly doubt this.

It's immersion breaking for franchise mode.

[sinthros]

Re: Playing Madden 19 OOTB ....

Simulation Stats are not gamebraking ffs. You have to play the game to count a bug as gamebreaking. So it's just an annoyance which needs to be fixed but not the big thing everyone is bragging about.

Is there even a Disc Version? I highly doubt this.

It is 100000 percent gamebreaking.

[SilverBullet19]

Re: Playing Madden 19 OOTB ....

This patch didn't destroy sim stats, those have had issues forever going back several years. I don't know what changed with it, but even if it made them worse, they were already bad lol

Simulation Stats are not gamebraking ffs. You have to play the game to count a bug as gamebreaking. So it's just an annoyance which needs to be fixed but not the big thing everyone is bragging about.

Is there even a Disc Version? I highly doubt this.

I can see the frustration for some people. For someone like me (or you), it's a minor inconvenience. For guys that sim everything, its a huge issue.

And what do you mean you doubt there is a disc version? Tons of people buy the game on disc, myself included. It's still the highest selling method.

[JayCutlersCig]

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Just bought it for $40, pre-owned. My OOTB experience makes me want to return M19, unless I find some good sliders.

This game feels disgusting to play, primarily because of the RPM and lack of fluidity. I practiced, got acclimated with RPM, and cab say that it makes the game feel sloppy. Also, the running animations look awful.

Pass blocking logic is still bad.

It honestly feels like 18, except for the RPM.


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[michapop9]

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Another year, more evidence on top of the boatload that already exists that ea has not been nor will be anytime soon, the place to go for a great football game, too bad we dont have anywhere else to go. The beat goes on....

[SpectreBugg]

Re: Playing Madden 19 OOTB ....

Simulation Stats are not gamebraking ffs. You have to play the game to count a bug as gamebreaking. So it's just an annoyance which needs to be fixed but not the big thing everyone is bragging about.

Is there even a Disc Version? I highly doubt this.

Simulation stats are 100% gamebreaking for anyone who plays franchise mode offline by themselves or with a small group, which is a pretty good portion of the community.

Stats are a HUGE part of football. Not to mention, in madden stats effect progression and regression of players, Goals, etc..

So yes, it very much is a gamebreaking issue if they are not at least somewhat realistic.

[gr18]

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OP....you aren't all in on '17 ootb being the game anymore.?

[Hooe]

Re: Playing Madden 19 OOTB ....

Simulation stats are 100% gamebreaking for anyone who plays franchise mode offline by themselves or with a small group, which is a pretty good portion of the community.

Stats are a HUGE part of football. Not to mention, in madden stats effect progression and regression of players, Goals, etc..

So yes, it very much is a gamebreaking issue if they are not at least somewhat realistic.

Annoying? Sure; QBs not running for yards in simulated games is a hinderance to authenticity. Gamebreaking? Absolutely not.

As far as I can tell, there is exactly one milestone XP goal in Madden 19 related to QB rushing: 500 rush yards in a season. QBs may perform plenty of other non-rushing tasks to gain XP, including but not limited to: any of the QB-targeting weekly training drills (doubly so if the QB is a perfect scheme fit); appearing on the field during the game (downs played); gaining passing yards and touchdowns in games; completing passing-related milestone goals (there are plenty); achieving in-game team goals and dynamic drive goals (even if your QB isn't on the field and the goal doesn't even involve him, such as achieving four team sacks on defense); winning position-related weekly and season awards; and winning the Super Bowl.

The end consequence of this is that QBs who are strong runners and poor passers may have their XP gain slightly stunted in simulated games because their rushing numbers won't accumulate to authentic levels, and thus they won't gain XP they otherwise would have from gaining rushing yards and touchdowns. However, given how M19 is set up, rushing is not going to significantly drive a quarterback's progression anyway. Training with scheme fit, on-field passing performance, and season awards are clearly the dominating factors.

I do hope sim stats are looked at and adjusted for those who care about them, but it's very obviously a minor issue.

[Lilly Of The Valley]

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OP....you aren't all in on '17 ootb being the game anymore.?

Yea, it is. However, a buddy is gonna work together with me to make a 1999 Roster for Madden 19. We got almost 5-teams already completed. I bought disc version for 40$, to ensure sim stats. I am gonna flow with it, as I mostly play the game as a text sim. If m17 looked as good as m18, I would stick with 17.

[JayCutlersCig]

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All this talk about stats, no talk about gameplay (in this thread).

Holy hell, the offensive line play is abysmal, even with sliders and on All-Pro. The RB AI is as dumb as it was last year.

Stat adjustment is just the tip of the iceberg for me. This game is far from playable.


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[SpectreBugg]

Re: Playing Madden 19 OOTB ....

Annoying? Sure; QBs not running for yards in simulated games is a hinderance to authenticity. Gamebreaking? Absolutely not.

As far as I can tell, there is exactly one milestone XP goal in Madden 19 related to QB rushing: 500 rush yards in a season. QBs may perform plenty of other non-rushing tasks to gain XP, including but not limited to: any of the QB-targeting weekly training drills (doubly so if the QB is a perfect scheme fit); appearing on the field during the game (downs played); gaining passing yards and touchdowns in games; completing passing-related milestone goals (there are plenty); achieving in-game team goals and dynamic drive goals (even if your QB isn't on the field and the goal doesn't even involve him, such as achieving four team sacks on defense); winning position-related weekly and season awards; and winning the Super Bowl.

The end consequence of this is that QBs who are strong runners and poor passers may have their XP gain slightly stunted in simulated games because their rushing numbers won't accumulate to authentic levels, and thus they won't gain XP they otherwise would have from gaining rushing yards and touchdowns. However, given how M19 is set up, rushing is not going to significantly drive a quarterback's progression anyway. Training with scheme fit, on-field passing performance, and season awards are clearly the dominating factors.

I do hope sim stats are looked at and adjusted for those who care about them, but it's very obviously a minor issue.

Perhaps in this particular instance, it's impact is negligible. However, the person i replied to simply said "simulation stats", and "simulation stats" most certainly matter.

[michapop9]

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Perhaps in this particular instance, it's impact is negligible. However, the person i replied to simply said "simulation stats", and "simulation stats" most certainly matter.

If you havent noticed, when cmhoe thinks its a certain way, its obviously the right way.