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  • 4thQtrStre5S
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 3051

    #1

    EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

    We have a 3-3 Cowboys team and an undefeated Patriots team in the NFL. Yet in Madden the Cowboys are the highest rated team at 89 and the Patriots are a solid 85.

    If the Cowboys truly have all this talent that rates their team so high, and I doubt they do, then we need to have coaches which affect overalls and player performance so the team performances are better represented in game. Jason Garrett reminds me of Barry Switzer and Garrett is consistent at blowing games. 0-3 in 3 weeks, that is a problem in coaching and EA/Tib should see the importance of having coaches and coordinators in the game to replicate how a team can be affected by coaching.



    If coaches are allowed to affect player performance, as in ratings, then instead of adjusting a bunch of ratings each week to show player performance, the adjustments showing team improvement can also be handled by adjusting coaching abilities. Thus, in theory, a team can improve or decline with a few simple adjustments to coaches as opposed to adjusting a bunch of players to represent the change in team success or lack of success.



    So coaches would have the ability to raise and lower player ratings. Lowering or raising the coaches key abilities, position abilities, would in turn adjust the player ratings without actually adjusting the player's core ratings. Coaches would act as modifiers.



    It's time EA/Tib. We need coaching in game.
    Last edited by 4thQtrStre5S; 10-14-2019, 09:26 AM.
  • edgevoice
    MVP
    • Sep 2008
    • 1199

    #2
    Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

    Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
    We have a 3-3 Cowboys team and an undefeated Patriots team in the NFL. Yet in Madden the Cowboys are the highest rated team at 89 and the Patriots are a solid 85.

    If the Cowboys truly have all this talent that rates their team so high, and I doubt they do, then we need to have coaches which affect overalls and player performance so the team performances are better represented in game. Jason Garrett reminds me of Barry Switzer and Garrett is consistent at blowing games. 0-3 in 3 weeks, that is a problem in coaching and EA/Tib should see the importance of having coaches and coordinators in the game to replicate how a team can be affected by coaching.



    If coaches are allowed to affect player performance, as in ratings, then instead of adjusting a bunch of ratings each week to show player performance, the adjustments showing team improvement can also be handled by adjusting coaching abilities. Thus, in theory, a team can improve or decline with a few simple adjustments to coaches as opposed to adjusting a bunch of players to represent the change in team success or lack of success.



    So coaches would have the ability to raise and lower player ratings. Lowering or raising the coaches key abilities, position abilities, would in turn adjust the player ratings without actually adjusting the player's core ratings. Coaches would act as modifiers.



    It's time EA/Tib. We need coaching in game.
    As a diehard +40 year Cowboys fan, I completely agree with this. I do believe Dallas has a talented roster, but that does not always equate to a good team.

    Bill Parcells took the Cowboys to the playoffs with a roster whereas almost no starter would be a starter on another NFL team. Coaching matters IRL and it should be reflected in franchise mode.

    To take it a step further, if one decides to create himself as head coach, practice mode should take into account time spent in order to improve the team overall.

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    • ggsimmonds
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2009
      • 11235

      #3
      Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

      This has been a top request from the franchise community for how long now?

      Face it guys, EA is just gonna do what they want and use marketing BS to sell us on it. See: scenario engine

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      • Fusker
        Rookie
        • Dec 2013
        • 237

        #4
        Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

        Crappy human will make a good roster play poorly, great human will make a bad roster play better. Think I’m good as is on this front.

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        • jcar0725
          "ADAPT OR DIE"
          • Aug 2010
          • 3819

          #5
          Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

          Interesting. In my Dolphins franchise rebuild, after year 1 which the team was fairly competitive but lost most games.

          I fired Flores and hired the top rated "not real person" head coach, and tweaked the offensive and defensive system players to match that head coaches system, and my team got noticeably WORSE, even though I have better players in year two.
          JUUUUUUUST A BIT OUTSIDE

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          • TurboTitan
            Pro
            • Jun 2004
            • 804

            #6
            Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

            This will be another "feature" that is touted one day, when we all know it was in the game YEARS ago and removed for some unknown reason when the game moved to MORE powerful consoles. Never makes any sense......

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            • Mattanite
              MVP
              • Sep 2015
              • 1716

              #7
              Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

              Me being a stuck record: In 32 user online sim leagues... you are the Coach and Coordinators and some guys turn good teams terrible and some guys take a bad team to the Superbowl.


              But agree that without this team building vs team success is very shallow immersion wise.
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              • Shosum13
                MVP
                • Jul 2011
                • 1177

                #8
                Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

                This has probably been one of the most requested franchise features for a while now. I know EA has said they want to do it, but when they do they want to include all real coordinators so they need to get the rights to them. Personally I think the community would even be happy with made up coordinators. That or ship the game with fake names for the coordinators but give us an editor so people can create a roster with the real coordinators.

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                • TheOncomingStorm
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 437

                  #9
                  Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

                  Originally posted by Shosum13
                  This has probably been one of the most requested franchise features for a while now. I know EA has said they want to do it, but when they do they want to include all real coordinators so they need to get the rights to them. Personally I think the community would even be happy with made up coordinators. That or ship the game with fake names for the coordinators but give us an editor so people can create a roster with the real coordinators.

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                  EA just used fake coaches for NHL 20.... Not to mention the fake coaches used in Madden to replace non-union head coaches.

                  If EA says they aren't implementing this feature because they can't get real coordinators, that would be another lie.

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                  • Sphinx
                    Emerald Archer
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 877

                    #10
                    Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

                    Originally posted by TheOncomingStorm
                    EA just used fake coaches for NHL 20.... Not to mention the fake coaches used in Madden to replace non-union head coaches.

                    If EA says they aren't implementing this feature because they can't get real coordinators, that would be another lie.
                    I think it's an excuse more than a lie. Plus, we don't know what the nfl or coaches union would say about generic coordinators. That being said, they need to add these and stop screwing around on it. We had them years ago and should have them now and they should be expanded to have individual position coaches. Also, they need to make the coaches editable, I want to be able to edit their schemes, run/pass ratio, how aggressive they are. Basically, we need the options that we had 10 years ago.

                    But instead of this, we got the pro bowl. So, yay? I'll stop before I got off on a rant about how worthless the pro bowl is and how terrible the pro bowl roster selection process is.

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                    • Madden08PCgmr
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 2440

                      #11
                      Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

                      Madden 12

                      Its in the game
                      You want free speech?
                      Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.

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                      • saintrules
                        MVP
                        • May 2016
                        • 1393

                        #12
                        Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

                        A question I have is do those OVR ratings take into consideration what positions a team has super high rated players on? Positions should be weighted in terms of their value of importance...not every position is created equally.

                        For example, does the Pats high rating take into account that Brady is arguably one of the best QB's in the game? QB is the most important position. Take Brady out and slot someone else in, say, Joe Flacco, and that OVR shouldn't just go down a little, it should go down a lot, whereas slotting out a 98 OVR lineman for a 75 lineman should not decrease it the same amount.

                        Is this how it works or is every position weighted equally?
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                        • sinthros
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 531

                          #13
                          Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

                          Originally posted by Madden08PCgmr
                          Madden 12

                          Its in the game
                          Another reason I freaking love that game.
                          Not to mention players retiring and then becoming coaches.

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                          • Kanobi
                            H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 6052

                            #14
                            Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

                            Done...see Axis Football

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                            • TarHeelPhenom
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 7116

                              #15
                              Re: EA/Tib Please Look at adding Coaches/Coordinators

                              I get it...I get it...you can't just implement certain things like magic and expect for them to work properly. But, I see this indie game with a 16 person coaching staff...at LEAST think about giving us HC, OC, DC, ST pretty please?????
                              "Dunks are tough, but when a 35 footer come rainin out the sky...it'll wire you up"

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