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  • JayD
    All Star
    • Mar 2004
    • 5457

    #1

    When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

    Just curios to yalls opinion on to what type of contract you should give to your players. I figured that you should balance young players and back load veteran players. I also think you should avoid front loading contracts. Curious to hear yalls thoughts.
  • KCsFinest5
    Rookie
    • Jul 2008
    • 329

    #2
    Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

    Originally posted by JayD
    Just curios to yalls opinion on to what type of contract you should give to your players. I figured that you should balance young players and back load veteran players. I also think you should avoid front loading contracts. Curious to hear yalls thoughts.
    I would front load a contract on some older players.

    Can we even do this on 12?

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    • 37
      Fear The Spear
      • Apr 2011
      • 10346

      #3
      Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

      Originally posted by JayD
      Just curios to yalls opinion on to what type of contract you should give to your players. I figured that you should balance young players and back load veteran players. I also think you should avoid front loading contracts. Curious to hear yalls thoughts.
      it all depends on the player and the team's cap situation.....but with all things being equal, i'd frontload veterans considerin most of their production is likely to come within the first few years.....i wouldn't wanna be paying Ray Lewis $12M when he's 38 in his 4th year of a 4-year contract (just making up an example)
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      • JayD
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        • Mar 2004
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        #4
        Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

        Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
        it all depends on the player and the team's cap situation.....but with all things being equal, i'd frontload veterans considerin most of their production is likely to come within the first few years.....i wouldn't wanna be paying Ray Lewis $12M when he's 38 in his 4th year of a 4-year contract (just making up an example)
        that's true I guess i had it backwards.

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        • fatleg3
          MVP
          • Aug 2008
          • 3602

          #5
          Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

          Originally posted by KCsFinest5
          I would front load a contract on some older players.

          Can we even do this on 12?
          Yes in fa when you win a bid on a player you dont choose the contract as far as how much they get paid. you get to choose weather to back load, front load, or balance it

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          • 37
            Fear The Spear
            • Apr 2011
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            #6
            Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

            Originally posted by JayD
            that's true I guess i had it backwards.
            That's why im gunna resist goin after players who are in their 30's....only as a stop-gap perhaps but definetly no long-term deals.....imma build my team through the draft and re-sigining current young players.....
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            • JayD
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              • Mar 2004
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              #7
              Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

              When is the best situation to balance a contract?

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              • slingblade73
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                • Jun 2003
                • 381

                #8
                Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

                Are bonuses the only thing guaranteed like the old CBA? If so then that is a reason to back load, you can always cut them. Most teams do that in the big money year anyway.

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                • 37
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                  • Apr 2011
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                  #9
                  Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

                  Originally posted by JayD
                  When is the best situation to balance a contract?
                  probably for a player whose in his late 20's whose been playing well as a backup for a few years and has finally earned the right to start because u let your current starter go cause of of age/injury issues/contract dispute, etc.
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                  • ggsimmonds
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11235

                    #10
                    Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

                    Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                    it all depends on the player and the team's cap situation.....but with all things being equal, i'd frontload veterans considerin most of their production is likely to come within the first few years.....i wouldn't wanna be paying Ray Lewis $12M when he's 38 in his 4th year of a 4-year contract (just making up an example)
                    But you can also take a gamble on him retiring after the second year of his deal. That is what I will do with players who may be near retirement.

                    And I would front load when I know I have some players who will have their rookie contract expire in a couple years and will want a big contract. Lets say player A is in year 2 of 4 of his rookie deal and I just signed a vet who wants a 4 yr deal. I am front loading that contract so I have enough cap room to resign my rookies.

                    Sidenote: I would like it if we had the same options for resigning our own players instead of playing the guessing game

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                    • 37
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                      • Apr 2011
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                      #11
                      Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

                      Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                      But you can also take a gamble on him retiring after the second year of his deal. That is what I will do with players who may be near retirement.

                      And I would front load when I know I have some players who will have their rookie contract expire in a couple years and will want a big contract. Lets say player A is in year 2 of 4 of his rookie deal and I just signed a vet who wants a 4 yr deal. I am front loading that contract so I have enough cap room to resign my rookies.

                      Sidenote: I would like it if we had the same options for resigning our own players instead of playing the guessing game
                      I wouldn't sign any player that's anywhere near retirement...and the example u gave def make sense....If a rookie is near the end of a rookie contract and he's obviously outperformed what he's making currently, he's definetly getting extended
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                      • illwill10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 19824

                        #12
                        Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

                        So:
                        Frontload- For Older players and so you could have money for young players later.
                        Balance- For Proven In-Prime Players who will be consistent.
                        BackLoad- For Rookies/Young Players or project players.

                        I dont sign a player over 32/33 unless he is a K/P or a OL. I usually trade older players for picks.
                        Since I dont make splashes in FA(mainly OL or K/P), I will extend players. I will mostly either Backload Contracts or use Balanced Contracts,
                        Last edited by illwill10; 08-30-2011, 04:00 PM.

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                        • 37
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                          #13
                          Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

                          Originally posted by illwill10
                          So:
                          Frontload- For Older players and so you could have money for young players later.
                          Balance- For Proven In-Prime Players who will be consistent.
                          BackLoad- For Rookies/Young Players or project players.
                          u pretty much hit the nail on the head
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                          • Shards
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 418

                            #14
                            Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

                            If you are playing a realistic franchise then front load should never really be used. Every contract is backloaded in the NFL so they can pump up the overall number but either cut or resign before the ridiculous years. The only thing that really changes this is creative bonuses and incentives which we can't do. If you do want to use them then you will want to use them when you have a lot of money to spend, Like the Chiefs. You will never use all of that cap room this year so this will make you save room in the next years. You will use back loaded when you do not have a lot of cap room. In my eyes it doesn't have anything to do with the age of the player. If someone is no longer worth the money then you cut him and cap hits are based on bonus not salary.
                            Just stop saying that Madden is garbage and you aren't going to buy it. We all know that you are telling a lie so you can feel better about yourself.

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                            • Danknugmelo
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 66

                              #15
                              Re: When to front load, balance, back load contracts?

                              What are you guys talking about?!?!?

                              You always backload older players. ALWAYS!!!! This way when if his play seriosuly deteriorates you can cut him and not have to pay him the huge amount owed at the end.

                              You will always almost want to backload for that purpose and if a player is good then you renegotiate the contract before it is up.

                              I would only frontload when you have a bunch of cap room, a young team and need to resign those young guys long term while wanting to make sure you have cap room in the future.

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