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  • lopey986
    Rookie
    • Apr 2010
    • 229

    #1

    depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

    What is up with the depth charts? There's a huge difference between when I'm in the depth chart in the ccm menu vs when I go play a game. Tons of guys with 5-10 point differences in overall.
  • NFGcjs
    Rookie
    • Sep 2010
    • 20

    #2
    Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

    I have the same issue/question.

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    • DetroitStyle
      Meow
      • May 2011
      • 1043

      #3
      The schemes in CCM cause players overalls to change. In play now it's just a standard baseline overall.

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      • HouseKeepinItReal
        Banned
        • Apr 2012
        • 238

        #4
        Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

        this happens to me too. i go to my depth chart in ccm, then go into game in ccm and my center has an eleven point drop in his overall. perhaps its the playbook i chose?



        because otherwise team scheme doesn't explain it

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        • zippity
          Rookie
          • Feb 2004
          • 23

          #5
          Same problem here. Does it have something to do with hot/cold streaks? Or is it just another glitch!?

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          • thephenom21
            Rookie
            • Jan 2012
            • 42

            #6
            Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

            The reason for this is that in during a game in CCM the depth chart displays their actual ratings, as in the ones that Donny Moore set for play now/online play. The ratings shown in the depth chart in the CCM menu screen is adjusted based on your schemes you run (ie: power run or prototype cb etc.).

            Now I'm not sure why the in game CCM depth chart doesn't show the adjusted values...

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            • OpusX910
              Pro
              • Dec 2008
              • 517

              #7
              Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

              Originally posted by thephenom21
              The reason for this is that in during a game in CCM the depth chart displays their actual ratings, as in the ones that Donny Moore set for play now/online play. The ratings shown in the depth chart in the CCM menu screen is adjusted based on your schemes you run (ie: power run or prototype cb etc.).

              Now I'm not sure why the in game CCM depth chart doesn't show the adjusted values...
              I don't think this is the case...because even KOS, PR/KR, LOS, and 3DRB change durastically. On top of that, why in gods green earth would they show you base OVR in CCM, then adjust it in game for schemes??? That makes precisely zero sense

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              • Xan9bhaal
                Rookie
                • Aug 2012
                • 4

                #8
                Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

                Originally posted by thephenom21
                The reason for this is that in during a game in CCM the depth chart displays their actual ratings, as in the ones that Donny Moore set for play now/online play. The ratings shown in the depth chart in the CCM menu screen is adjusted based on your schemes you run (ie: power run or prototype cb etc.).

                Now I'm not sure why the in game CCM depth chart doesn't show the adjusted values...

                THANK YOU!
                I made a thread about this yesterday, basically asking the same question. This does in fact sound right, I think. It would then mean that looking at overall rating during a CCM game would mean nothing, since it doesn't calculate the differences in scheme (and perhaps the production rating as well, since all rookies have higher OVR stat when in the game).
                Yet it is only cosmetic in the end!

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                • NFGcjs
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 20

                  #9
                  Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

                  Why would punt and kick returners change? I have guys that are up 8 points in returning in game ccm vs menu ccm.

                  Also, is there a way in menu ccm to see the players unadjusted scheme rating? If that makes sense at all. Players moving around 10 points based on scheme is a bit scary...so when I'm trading for them I'd like to know what their ratings would be in different schemes I guess. Probably not possible...but it'd be nice!

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                  • thephenom21
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 42

                    #10
                    Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

                    Originally posted by NFGcjs
                    Why would punt and kick returners change? I have guys that are up 8 points in returning in game ccm vs menu ccm.

                    Also, is there a way in menu ccm to see the players unadjusted scheme rating? If that makes sense at all. Players moving around 10 points based on scheme is a bit scary...so when I'm trading for them I'd like to know what their ratings would be in different schemes I guess. Probably not possible...but it'd be nice!
                    The ratings don't mean anything since their actual specific ratings (ie: throw power, pass block, truck, etc.) don't change. It's just their overall that changes so that it makes it easier for you to know who fits in your scheme.

                    I had Jason Kelce go from a 71 overall to an 88 because I moved him from pass block to zone block. Pretty crazy stuff.

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                    • ABR173rd
                      Rangers Lead The Way!!!!
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1523

                      #11
                      Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

                      Originally posted by DetroitStyle
                      The schemes in CCM cause players overalls to change. In play now it's just a standard baseline overall.
                      Still doesn't make any sense- How does Drew Brees go from a 97 overall to a 91 when starting a CCM as the Saints and keeping the same exact coach/ game plan that was in place?

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                      • NFGcjs
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 20

                        #12
                        Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

                        What ratings should we go by then? The ones that are in game in CCM? Is there any way to see the ratings that matter in the menu mode in CCM? I'm confused as to which ratings matter in CCM mode. Thanks again for the feedback.

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                        • lon515
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 201

                          #13
                          Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

                          the rating in the game is the base over all. your player will still play like the ovr in ccm it just goes to base overall for the game because its a game. yes even the returner values go to base because they are part of your scheme as well. rb, wr ss,

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                          • MotorCityManiac
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 19

                            #14
                            Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

                            I think the reason they are doing this is to force people into using the XP system and just not casually ignoring it...If you drop the player ratings based on schemes they figure the users will try and build the players back up quickly and actually play the practice modes.

                            My opinion...If I want to play a role playing game i'll put Skyrim in my console...Please keep a sports game a sports game.

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                            • ale0319
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 14

                              #15
                              Re: depth chart in ccm menus vs in game

                              It'd be nice to get a straight answer here

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