IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

[bigfnjoe96]

Guys the IE Feature for Pitching is rock solid this year & I would suggest everyone use-it when Pitching. The wealth of Info you get when hit that D-PAD is sick. I've been using it in combination with wasting some pitches & trying to paint corners during my games & have been able to get a pitch count of about 80-90 a game.

By also wasting & trying to paint corners, it seems to throw the AI Hitters OFF a little allowing for a higher possibility of strikes taken & strike-outs looking. Not to mention you definitely have to mix your pitches up.

I don't use the Catcher's Suggestion & go by Instinct & what the IE Percentages look like. I would suggest if you want to get comfortable in using IE for Pitching enable the IE K-ZONE in the Presentation Settings & try to hit more of the BLUE target then the RED.

Thoughts?

[zpq12]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

The IE stuff, if it works right, seems like it has HUGE potential.

[stealyerface]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

Now see, here I thought that based on your catcher's rating, he would call the pitches and location using the info from the IE.


Now how cool would it be if they expanded on that and, based on how good your catcher was rated, he would be more likely to call the "right" pitch in the "right" situation. The more green your catching crew was, the more they might ask for a pitch in the hitter's Red Zone because their scouting was not as good as the crafty veteran. Therefore, it would be important to draft a smart catcher and try to keep him on the team as he only would get better with age....

ahh yes... someday..

syf

[therizing02]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

Ha! After reading through the hitting thread, I was thinking, "man the pitching part of it is really good though".

You definitely need an approach to each individual hitter when you're on the mound and the IE is well implemented.

Now fix the batting and we'll have a decent game.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

Trust me IE for Pitching is your friend use-it...

[JoshCA916]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

i don't know much about using the IE for pitching but i mixed pitches threw some balls on purpose just barely missing for a reason as it helped the cpu take many more strikes then normal well i had Lincecum on the mound threw a 9 inn. shoutout with 11 strikeouts only gave up 3 hits(hit one guy on accident) but i think mixing up pitches and throwing some balls on purpose really helps, doesnt completely solve it but makes a pretty big difference

Oh and this was on all-star with custom sliders for the cpu's advantage

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

I wanna try to keep this thread going as I have seen many talking about this as a way to generate pitch count. People this is working very well, not only in getting user pitch count up some, but in getting the AI to take strikes, swing @ questionable strikes & actually take strikes also..

[amarks05]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

I do agree. How about on the Batting side after you buy the reports on other teams. The computer flashes 3 boxes up on the screen. I am assuming the color corrospondes to pitch type and the locations are the spots that they are most likely going to throw to.

Can you trust these zones? are they actaully pitching to the preindicated places?

[belljr]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

I completely agree. I turned on the IE zones but turned off the strikezone indicator.

I've had guys taking a lot of 2nd strikes, on change ups, fastball , etc

I have only 1 K looking though. As I was taught I always waste a pitch here and there and really change the eyes of the hitter.

Still a lot of first pitch swings but to me the IE is huge.

YOU are not going to get 9 pitch innings all the time. I get a lot of first pitch swinging strikes, which I know is the issue but I can get the CPU to take strikes

[texaslonewolf]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

Yea the pitching is dead on with pidilla I had 8 k's thru 9 then he got hurt and I think I threw somewhere around 100 pitches with him with the k-zone on.

[Trevytrev11]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

Inside Edge aside, how accurate are your finding your pitchers are or How often are you missing your locations? Do you notice a diffrerence in your pitchers accuracy (ability to throw the ball to your chosen spot) between great pitchers and average or bad ones? I'm, not talking about getting hit harder or striking more guys out, but is it harder to Pitch to a location with a guy like Zito compared to a Santana or Halladay?

What would you estimate is your strike to ball ratio? I don't expect pitches aimed to the middle of the zone to miss the strikes zone too often, but when you are trying to throw pitches on or near the edges of the zone, do you miss for balls and towards the middle of the plate at a realistic rate?

Finally...isn't it great that there is no meatball problem this year?

[stealyerface]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

Using the new 2-step process, I can throw any pitch to within inches of the target, based on what the pitcher has to offer for their level of movement. So with Beckett's curveball, I know that I can aim the ball cursor a good 3 feet above where the ball will end up, and as long as I am near the outside of the circle (which I always am) I can get the ball right where I want it. I have also experimented with not filling the circle on purpose, in order to not get quite as much movement on a waste pitch. I know it is silly to "show" a cpu batter a less than stellar curveball, then snap off Uncle Charlie two pitches later, but I do it how I do it....

All the pitchers have uncanny accuracy.

syf

[serialmike]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

Using the new 2-step process, I can throw any pitch to within inches of the target, based on what the pitcher has to offer for their level of movement. So with Beckett's curveball, I know that I can aim the ball cursor a good 3 feet above where the ball will end up, and as long as I am near the outside of the circle (which I always am) I can get the ball right where I want it. I have also experimented with not filling the circle on purpose, in order to not get quite as much movement on a waste pitch. I know it is silly to "show" a cpu batter a less than stellar curveball, then snap off Uncle Charlie two pitches later, but I do it how I do it....

All the pitchers have uncanny accuracy.

syf

I think that you might not have release timing set to on and The two sliders for timing adjusted.

[Trevytrev11]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

I think that you might not have release timing set to on and The two sliders for timing adjusted.

What kind if impact does changing it to these options give you?

[drterb]

Re: IE AI Hitting maybe "FLAWED" but man the IE "Pitching" is ON the money...

Using the new 2-step process, I can throw any pitch to within inches of the target, based on what the pitcher has to offer for their level of movement. So with Beckett's curveball, I know that I can aim the ball cursor a good 3 feet above where the ball will end up, and as long as I am near the outside of the circle (which I always am) I can get the ball right where I want it. I have also experimented with not filling the circle on purpose, in order to not get quite as much movement on a waste pitch. I know it is silly to "show" a cpu batter a less than stellar curveball, then snap off Uncle Charlie two pitches later, but I do it how I do it....

All the pitchers have uncanny accuracy.

syf

The Inside Edge feature has monster potential, but being able to paint the corners with Derrick Turnbow as easily as I can paint the corners with Chris Carpenter is unacceptable. I don't mind the 2-step for pick up and play, but with the 3-step pitching they should implement a dice roll based on the pitcher's individual pitch rating (fastball, curveball, changeup, etc.) and his accuracy rating to determine where the ball will end up. If and when they fix the AI batting issues, the combination of the two could lead to a great pitcher/batter implementation.

If someone has come up with a slider set that makes 3-step more difficult, please point me to it.