The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

[Wavebird99]

seriously, how has this not been addressed? The frame-rate drops in the late innings of games almost constantly. It usually only happens if youve been playing the whole game, rather than loading a save from a game that was saved/quitted.

Its infuriating, and tbh it ruins the game for me. How is it possible that 2k11 is glitchier than 2k9 and 2k10 combined?! So disappointing.

Theory:
From what I've gathered from my own problems/what others have said:

- The framerate will drop in only certain stadiums. (known stadiums: Braves, Mets, Angels).
- The framerate drop is due to pitchers warming up in the bullpen (occurs whenever a pitcher has to warm up). Does not matter whether its the AI or Human warming someone up.
- The framerate (usually) returns to normal or tolerable levels after the pitcher is in the game and no longer in the pen. It doesnt happen everytime though.
- Active bullpen off seems to help somewhat.

Confirmed Stadiums with this Problem
- Citi Field (Mets)
- Turner Field (Braves)
- Angels Stadium (Angels)
- PNC Park (Pirates)

Stadiums with minor framerate issues late in games, but not full out problem:
- Chase Field (Diamondbacks): Framerate is only an issue with certain pitches for some reason.
- Royals Stadium (Royals): Two pitchers have to be warming up in the pen for the framerate to slow down, as opposed to one.
- Oriole Park (Orioles): Happens rarely, but can happen if many pitchers are warming up.


I havent tested every stadium, but its alarming how many are affected. Too bad 2k isnt putting out another patch for this game.

[mkharsh33]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

I might be out in left field on this (pardon the pun) but I've wondered if it has anything to do with pitchers warming up in the bullpen...

Again, this may have absolutely nothing to do with this, but it is frustrating. It's one of the things that changes late in the game so I didn't know if this had anything to do with it. If I'm a moron here, just disregard.

[Wavebird99]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

Im wondering if it has anything to do with pressing a to skip the little things the batters and pitchers do often etc. Sometimes I noticed slow down right after I've been skipping there walkups or a catcher throwing the pitcher back the ball.

[mkharsh33]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

Im wondering if it has anything to do with pressing a to skip the little things the batters and pitchers do often etc. Sometimes I noticed slow down right after I've been skipping there walkups or a catcher throwing the pitcher back the ball.

I don't know because I do this the ENTIRE game and nothing happens until around the 7th or 8th innings. The only thing that seems different is having bullpen pitchers warming up in the background. But again, who knows.

[Wavebird99]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

does it happen every game for you?

[Wavebird99]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

It just considerably dropped for me in the 5th inning. Does this seriously not happen to many other people?

also mk - it coincided with someone warming in the pen. you might be on to something

[Kernel Pie]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

This was driving me crazy also, but there's a way to fix it.

The stuttering is triggered by having the hitting/pitching cam behind the pitcher. Personally, I believe it has to do with the increased crowd animations late in games.

If you pitch and/or hit with the camera behind the catcher, you will not see any stuttering. Not sure if you have to have hurry-up selected as well, but I always do.

I know for a fact that hurry-up plus behind-the-pitcher cam = stuttering.

But hurry-up plus behind-the-catcher cam = guaranteed no stuttering.

[mkharsh33]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

^ May be so, but I LOVE the unique camera angles and I'm willing to deal with this. I don't want to pitch from the camera viewpoint that you're suggesting so I'll survive. I still think the bullpen's have something to do with this because WHY would it just start up in those late innings??

We need some more feedback on this, and I would ask that some people just try a "throw away" game where they let the starter pitch a complete game (forgetting about the stats) and NO pitchers in the bullpen. I'd be curious to see if this has any impact on those late innings.

[Kernel Pie]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

FWIW I have non-active bullpen selected and still get stuttering. I really believe it's due the crowd. There's a trigger for the crowd to get pumped in the late innings. Once that trigger goes off, the stuttering starts. Anyway, that's my hunch.

[Wavebird99]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

This has to be patched. Is there even another patch coming out?

[jack1535]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

I had this happen to me in franchise mode, but it doesn't happen in play now.

[Wavebird99]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

^ May be so, but I LOVE the unique camera angles and I'm willing to deal with this. I don't want to pitch from the camera viewpoint that you're suggesting so I'll survive. I still think the bullpen's have something to do with this because WHY would it just start up in those late innings??

We need some more feedback on this, and I would ask that some people just try a "throw away" game where they let the starter pitch a complete game (forgetting about the stats) and NO pitchers in the bullpen. I'd be curious to see if this has any impact on those late innings.

I dont know if its limited solely to your bullpen. Ive had the AI begin warming someone up (and not me) and its caused lagged.

Also the crowd is also a good theory. I've noticed late in games that the crowd has trouble loading in at times.

[Kernel Pie]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

Also the crowd is also a good theory. I've noticed late in games that the crowd has trouble loading in at times.

Yeah, the reason you won't see stuttering with behind-the-catcher cam, is because the crowd behind home plate never has to load their animations. That's my belief, anyway.

Also, the best angle for behind the catcher (imo) is batter 3, zoom 1, height 5. This lets you see the entire ballpark, foul pole to foul pole, to the top of the lights. Anyway, just saying.

[Wavebird99]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

Just played a game where the framerate dipped in conjunction with the CPU warming someone up in the pen perfectly. After they were done warming him up it returned to (mostly) normal.

I also have a theory it only happens in certain parks. Citi Field, Angels Stadium, and Turner Field are where I confirm it happening, but it doesnt really happen at Yankee Stadium as far as I see.

[tylerj19]

Re: The framerate drop in late innings is infuriating

I turned off active bullpen and it helped somewhat. I hadn't thought about the crowd thing; that's an interesting theory.