MLB 09: The Show Simulates the 2009 Season

[karavalvin]

As a Mets fan, I'll just be happy as long as the goofballs don't choke again.

[k_bassuka]

Most realistic game ever, yet Pitchers can't win RoY or MVP awards its lame this is a great game but definitely the most annoying game ever.

[masterkembo]

Quote: Originally Posted by k_bassuka

Most realistic game ever, yet Pitchers can't win RoY or MVP awards its lame this is a great game but definitely the most annoying game ever.

I would like to point out that the last time a pitcher won the MVP was in 1992 (Eckersley). In fact, in the last 39 years, a total of 5 pitchers have one the MVP (6.4%), so it doesn't seem untirely unrealistic (or lame) that pitchers don't win the MVP award.

[k_bassuka]

Quote: Originally Posted by masterkembo

I would like to point out that the last time a pitcher won the MVP was in 1992 (Eckersley). In fact, in the last 39 years, a total of 5 pitchers have one the MVP (6.4%), so it doesn't seem untirely unrealistic (or lame) that pitchers don't win the MVP award.

It’s still a possibility and if a pitcher goes out there and win 24+ games in a year with a low ERA will win it unless someone has a B.Bonds type of year and break the single season HR record. It’s true that pitchers rarely win it but at least have the opportunity to do so, unlike in the most realistic game ever. So what’s the problem with

Quit making excuses for a broken part of the game.

[BigWilly]

Ok, so pitchers win the MVP 6.4% of the time, and yet based on one simmed season where a pitcher doesn't win it, you make the leap to say that the game (or even a part of it) is broken? Very logical argument.

[masterkembo]

Quote: Originally Posted by k_bassuka

It’s still a possibility and if a pitcher goes out there and win 24+ games in a year with a low ERA will win it unless someone has a B.Bonds type of year and break the single season HR record. It’s true that pitchers rarely win it but at least have the opportunity to do so, unlike in the most realistic game ever. So what’s the problem with Quit making excuses for a broken part of the game.

2002: Randy Johnson, 24 W, 5L, 2.32ERA, 260 Innings, 334, SO.

That seems to meet your MVP requirements for a pitcher.

MPV: Barry Bonds with 46 Homeruns and 110RBIs which certainly isn't a 'homerun record breaking' season.

1996: John Smoltz, 24 W, 8L, 2.94ERA, 253.2 Innings, 276 SO.

MVP: Ken Camaniti - 40 Homeruns, 130 RBIs (neither recrod breaking; in fact neither even lead the league)

1999: Pedro Martinez, 23W, 4L, 2.07ERA, 213.1 Innings, 313 SO.

MVP: Ivan Rodriguez, 35 Homeruns, 113 RBI (neither league leading)

All three of those pitchers meet your MVP criteria, yet none of them won the MVP, and the guys that did win certainly did not have record breaking stats.

So, is it broken when a pitcher doesn't win MVP in the game?? Absolutely not! Considering a pitcher hasn't won the MVP in 16 seasons IRL, and there has been pitchers that have had big seasons since then, and they haven't won the MVP, I think it's fair that pitchers haven't won the MVP in your season(s).

Edit: Pedro was the only of those 3 guys that was even in the top 3 in voting. Randy Johnson finished 7th in voting in his 24 win season.

[choadler]

Wow, I guess that put that argument to rest about pitchers and MVP...Nice post masterkembo.

Funny how people's perceptions and what they feel is realistic and not realistic is so far off.

[k_bassuka]

Quote: Originally Posted by masterkembo

2002: Randy Johnson, 24 W, 5L, 2.32ERA, 260 Innings, 334, SO. That seems to meet your MVP requirements for a pitcher. MPV: Barry Bonds with 46 Homeruns and 110RBIs which certainly isn't a 'homerun record breaking' season. 1996: John Smoltz, 24 W, 8L, 2.94ERA, 253.2 Innings, 276 SO. MVP: Ken Camaniti - 40 Homeruns, 130 RBIs (neither recrod breaking; in fact neither even lead the league) 1999: Pedro Martinez, 23W, 4L, 2.07ERA, 213.1 Innings, 313 SO. MVP: Ivan Rodriguez, 35 Homeruns, 113 RBI (neither league leading) All three of those pitchers meet your MVP criteria, yet none of them won the MVP, and the guys that did win certainly did not have record breaking stats. So, is it broken when a pitcher doesn't win MVP in the game?? Absolutely not! Considering a pitcher hasn't won the MVP in 16 seasons IRL, and there has been pitchers that have had big seasons since then, and they haven't won the MVP, I think it's fair that pitchers haven't won the MVP in your season(s). Edit: Pedro was the only of those 3 guys that was even in the top 3 in voting. Randy Johnson finished 7th in voting in his 24 win season.

1996: Smoltz put up great stats playing for a great team maybe the best in the majors; they had the best pitching staff by far.

Caminiti took an average at best team to the playoffs, and put up great numbers
.326 BA 40 HR 79 XBH 110 R 130 RBI 11 SB

1999: Pedro should’ve won the award if you ask me, the only reason he didn’t is because some writers didn’t like him and some refuse to give their MVP vote to a pitcher, Pudge didn’t help by having one of the better seasons by a catcher offensively (rare by a catcher at the time) and defensively. If this would’ve happened after a Blo Soxs WS he would’ve won it.

2002: AZ had 2 pitchers that won 20+ games and they also had a great team and it showed by winning the WS.

Bonds continue his dominance, after hitting 73 the year prior he was on track to break that record, until that coach decided it was best to walk him even with bases loaded than to pitch to him. That’s why he didn’t hit more HR and still had one of the better seasons by a hitter.
.370 BA 46 HR 79 XBH 117 R 110 RBI 198 BB

He took a bad team and had them competing with the more talented AZ. He clearly was more important to his team than RJ. And voters believed that if they had pitched to him he would’ve beaten the 73 mark.

But you made my point for me those pitchers were in the MVP discussion those years and that doesn’t happen in this game, you can win 25 heck even 40 games playing for the Pirates and have no shot at winning the MVP, while on real life it would be a no brainer.

P.S. this is baseball, almost anything it’s possible too bad that the developers didn’t get the memo.