Pitch Marker Question

[Maynard]

rather then try and explain what i am asking, i have some pics to show the marker. One is the knucker and the other is a 2 seam.




So my question is, what exactly do these 2 markers represent? I always though the Blue + symbol was where the ball was when it crossed the front of the plate and then the K or B symbol showed where the was when it crossed the back of the plate

But then you see somthing like a knuckler and have a horizontal move or at times even see a upward horizontal line from the + to the K or B symbol. Obviously if a pitch is crossing the plate it isnt possible for it to move up 6 inches as it crosses the plate. this is where this marker thing confuses me

it makes me wonder what these 2 markers are actually representing....Thoughts?


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[DeJohn2391]

Re: Pitch Marker Question

The blue marker is where the pitcher originally aimed the pitch before starting his motion. The red marker (or marker referring to the pitch being a ball or strike) represents where the ball crossed the plate.

[Maynard]

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The blue marker is where the pitcher originally aimed the pitch before starting his motion. The red marker (or marker referring to the pitch being a ball or strike) represents where the ball crossed the plate.

if u explained this the way u meant, then i will have to disagree with u. If i originally aimed the pitch up and in and it ends up down and away, then by your opinion it would mean the blue marker would be up and in and the red marker would be down and away.....thats not how it works.

now if your saying the blue marker is at the release point and the red is where it crossed the plate...that i could agree with. But then how does that explain the knuckler that has a blue marker down and a red marker up

[callmetaternuts]

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I always thought that the cross hairs showed the ball's movement had it stayed straight (think 4 sema fastball) and the colored circle showed the ball's ending point, indicating the break of the pitch.

[sfgiantsfn]

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I always thought that the cross hairs showed the ball's movement had it stayed straight (think 4 sema fastball) and the colored circle showed the ball's ending point, indicating the break of the pitch.

I think this is correct

[jkeefeholmes]

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I always thought that the cross hairs showed the ball's movement had it stayed straight (think 4 sema fastball) and the colored circle showed the ball's ending point, indicating the break of the pitch.

Yes this is also my understanding, and seems to follow what I see in the pitches

[uf2005]

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I always thought that the cross hairs showed the ball's movement had it stayed straight (think 4 sema fastball) and the colored circle showed the ball's ending point, indicating the break of the pitch.

This is definitely the case.

[Maynard]

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so u guys are saying the blue cross is when it leaves the pitchers hand and the red marker is when it crosses the plate?

[nemesis04]

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so u guys are saying the blue cross is when it leaves the pitchers hand and the red marker is when it crosses the plate?

That cross hair should be the general location where you aimed the ball cursor for the pitch to break. The other indicator is the end result of the pitch based on pitch type and how much effort you put on the pitch to move. The knuckle ball is going to result in more movement from your original location as opposed to the 2 seamer which is represented in the above pics.

[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

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question you know when you select a pitch sometime the pitch has yellow lines. now i play with the api. do i put the first part of the yellow line on the ball marker or do i put the ball on the ball marker?

[nemesis04]

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question you know when you select a pitch sometime the pitch has yellow lines. now i play with the api. do i put the first part of the yellow line on the ball marker or do i put the ball on the ball marker?

When the catcher calls for a pitch in a specific location, you pick the pitch and depending on the pitch there will be a pitch break indicator. The bottom of the indicator should be somewhat matched up to the catcher's location. If you just match up the cursor to the location you will be off because you are aiming the break not the final location.

[coreyhartsdaughter]

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When the catcher calls for a pitch in a specific location, you pick the pitch and depending on the pitch there will be a pitch break indicator. The bottom of the indicator should be somewhat matched up to the catcher's location. If you just match up the cursor to the location you will be off because you are aiming the break not the final location.

No. Reverse that.

If the CPU catcher (who tends to be a tool) calls for a slider high and away, that slider should start high and away, and end up considerably off the plate.

[coreyhartsdaughter]

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I always thought that the cross hairs showed the ball's movement had it stayed straight (think 4 sema fastball) and the colored circle showed the ball's ending point, indicating the break of the pitch.

Yes.

[coreyhartsdaughter]

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OP, what screen capture tool are you using?

[mburke2]

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No. Reverse that.

If the CPU catcher (who tends to be a tool) calls for a slider high and away, that slider should start high and away, and end up considerably off the plate.

Actually I have to disagree with this. The catcher's location marker is where he wants the pitch to end up. Think of the catcher behind the plate placing his glove in that location and wanting the pitch to be right there.