3D

[TheBrew101]

Just curious how this game was in 3D. Did it add anything to the game? Did it give you more of a "wow" factor.

I've played this game a ton and love it. Thinking about getting a new TV and debating getting a 3D TV. Just would like to hear some opinions from those who have the game and if they play it in 3D.

Thanks.

[Blzer]

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Just curious how this game was in 3D. Did it add anything to the game? Did it give you more of a "wow" factor.

I've played this game a ton and love it. Thinking about getting a new TV and debating getting a 3D TV. Just would like to hear some opinions from those who have the game and if they play it in 3D.

Thanks.

It's not that thrilling. Framerate suffers, game seems to dip to about 540p, and it doesn't create much more immersion when playing in general (not like it really helps you see pitches come in better or anything, that is).

I'd rather use the 2D-to-3D conversion for The Show '11 if I wanted to use 3D, simply so the visual factors don't end up suffering too much.

[LastActionHero]

What Blzer said. I do like it on my 47LG Passive screen but it suffers too much from resolution degration and frame loss. I also need to turn down the pitch speeds when I switch to 3D, probably because of the frame loss the pitches are harder to read or maybe it's just too much for my brain I don't know

Wondering if they're gonna tweak anything about it. The graphics are probably already asking so much of the ps3 that showing the image twice just isn't possible without toning the game down a notch.

If it didn't suffer when switching to 3D I'd definitely go for it all the time. But we'll probably have to wait untill the ps4 for that. Now I occasionally switch to 3D.

Haven't tried the 2D to 3D conversion for the Show yet on my tv but overall that doesn't do too much.

Nonetheless If your on the market for a new tv it couldn't hurt going for a 3D set 'cause the 2D is still top notch. I prefer the passive technology by the way. Easier on the eyes.
I play Motortstorm/Resistance/Ratchet&Clank in 3D and love it. Next game is Uncharted 3 I wanna check in 3D.

Yo!

[Blzer]

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Nonetheless If your on the market for a new tv it couldn't hurt going for a 3D set 'cause the 2D is still top notch. I prefer the passive technology by the way. Easier on the eyes.
I play Motortstorm/Resistance/Ratchet&Clank in 3D and love it. Next game is Uncharted 3 I wanna check in 3D.

Yo!

I agree with the above. It's good to future-proof your television set for now and get the 3D, meanwhile getting a superior 2D TV in the same package.

For the record, Motorstorm looks amazing in 3D. So does Super Stardust HD. Killzone looked good too (for the 3D, not the resolution), but the setting was already so dark that the tint on the glasses kind of made it suffer slightly, since it became a bit hard to see. Uncharted slightly suffered from similar issues. I don't know if this generation is ready for 3D gaming yet, at least in terms of maximizing its potential.

[MaverickReturns]

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I don't know what any of these dudes are talking about. the 3D is pretty awesome. I mean the Show should not be the reason you get a 3d TV...but it definitely immerses you in the game...especially hitting. With that said...the camera makes a difference. Pitching and fielding are not greatly impacted. But hitting is much cooler imo

[Blzer]

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I don't know what any of these dudes are talking about. the 3D is pretty awesome. I mean the Show should not be the reason you get a 3d TV...but it definitely immerses you in the game...especially hitting. With that said...the camera makes a difference. Pitching and fielding are not greatly impacted. But hitting is much cooler imo

It might depend on one's camera angle. I'll try it again though, but the suffering framerate was a turn-off for me.

[LastActionHero]

I must admit the hitting view comes out best in 3D, the pitching view could be better but maybe I should try some different angles.

Nonetheless I feel the game takes a hit when switching to 3D, framewise and graphicwise.

[Blzer]

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Playing in 3D as we speak, and I will bite my tongue about the hitting because I found that the camera angle is the selling point of making 3D stand out the best/most prominently.

I've always said this about 3D movies as well: if your camera angle has a small DOF and you apply too much focus (blurring what's not being featured), the 3D effect is minimalized. The purpose of 3D is to give you the sense that you're basically looking through a window, and if you don't apply the proper DOF for and focus everything (as well as the zoom, etc.), you're basically caught in a crossfire with having an effect for the effect's sake, as opposed to giving it real purpose.

That said, I created myself a batting view similarish to the old Genesis World Series Baseball video games, meanwhile giving it a slight offset (from the batter's perspective) and with enough downward angle to see the plate. Although you don't get to enjoy the look of the stadium and the batting stances as much, it's incredibly easy to determine balls and strikes (in a good way, like it feels natural). Also, with this view and 3D enabled, upping the pitch speed is awesome, because it feels much more lifelike.

Just food for thought. I'll post a pic of the view later when I'm done with this game.

EDIT: However, I get a lot of crosstalk when playing this game. I don't know whether to blame the TV or the game's 3D, but when you go further into the screen, it tends to show up a lot.

EDIT 2: Here's that view I'm using for 3D...

[LastActionHero]

What tv do you have Blzer?

[Blzer]

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What tv do you have Blzer?

Samsung PN59D7000 (59" 1080p plasma).

I should just make sure that I say 2D is still the way to go with this game. 3D can be a bit more than novelty if applied correctly, though.

[MaverickReturns]

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ok...a couple of things. I use catcher view 4.

I have the Samsung 59inch as well. There is an important thing to know that will make all the difference...There are TWO ways to view 3D. One way sux the other way is VERY cool.

If you just put on the game and hit the 3D button on your TV the game. Essentially converting the 2D-3D...well it is highly overrated and does not add to the immersion....HOWEVER...you need to make sure to go into the actual game itself and enable the 3D on the game. Your TV will automatically convert to 3D and the game is awsome.

Now for me it looks real good when a ball is hit and also when the ball is coming in from the batters view. I have yet to see a pitching angle that is in anyway more immersive then just plain 2D.

It is slightly harder to see the ball when fielding for whatever reason....but I have often had this problem with the show I think because I use broadcast for feilding.

[MaverickReturns]

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ooops re-read and realized you already brought up the point about 2D-3D conversion. I am not noticing a problem at all with framerate. Frankly, its easier to hit I am thinking about upping the pitch speed because I can see the ball coming in better...its easier to tell a ball is coming in versus sinking.

I would suggest playing with the modes on your TV. I have a game mode setting which might be helping me out. Also L/R vs R/L image on 3D made a huge difference for me. I cant remember which one its on...but I had it on one and it was almost unplayable...while the other is perfect.

I have the 3D setting maxed on the TV and in the setting for the Show.

With all that it looks great...

Once again I am talking about for hitting. For pitching it is almost the same imo, but who really needs 3D for pitching.

[Blzer]

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ooops re-read and realized you already brought up the point about 2D-3D conversion. I am not noticing a problem at all with framerate. Frankly, its easier to hit I am thinking about upping the pitch speed because I can see the ball coming in better...its easier to tell a ball is coming in versus sinking.

2D-to-3D is all the TV doing the processing, so there isn't a framerate hit. There is, however, a framerate hit when converting the game to 3D.

I would suggest playing with the modes on your TV. I have a game mode setting which might be helping me out. Also L/R vs R/L image on 3D made a huge difference for me. I cant remember which one its on...but I had it on one and it was almost unplayable...while the other is perfect.

I keep tweaking these settings left and right, trying to figure out what's best. R/L is really screwy looking; I'm not sure exactly what the process is to have one over the other, but L/R is just fine. There's still a lot of crosstalk deep into the 3D, though.

I have the 3D setting maxed on the TV and in the setting for the Show.

With all that it looks great...

I've tried maxing it out (I have it at about 70% now), and it had far too much crosstalk. I'm 7-8 feet away from my screen, depending on whether I'm sitting up or lounging back, if that matters.

[MaverickReturns]

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YOu and I are clearly having 2 different experiences...not certain why. If you have the Samsung...try putting it on gaming mode.

The biggest proof for me that 3D is waaay better is that I tried to switch back mid game.

It was like the pitcher was standing right next to me.
breaking balls were waaaaaay harder to read and hit. And it was harder to gauge speed. NOT FUN

I changes the feilding view to medium for me which made it easy to field again...but not anymore immersive.

Did you try Catcher view 4?

[Peter_OS]

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Anyone try it with the new PS3 24" 3D TV?