Wheelhouse + Perfect Timing + Perfect Stride = ...

[Sigma4Life]

... a ground ball to short stop most of the time, at least according to MLB 12 The Show. Sony please fix this before I have to drive Out to San Diego and slap some one!

I'm sick of working the count, waiting for my pitch, just to be rewarded with a weak grounder or shallow fly ball. I have a 25 - 6 record online with a measly 5 HRs. The power game is broken and needs to be fixed ASAP!

The Padres were the least powerful team in the league in 2011 and they still hit 91 HRs in 162 games. The average MLB team hit 154 HRs. By that estimate I should have at least 16 - 30 HRs in my 31 online games.

[Ryan97]

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You are forgetting the most important part of that equation. CONTACT. What batting settings are you using ? Cause this is an issue I have not seen raised to this point.

[ComfortablyLomb]

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Wheelhouse + perfect timing only modifies a dice roll. It's about making more good swings than not. Even awesome hitters miss meatballs sometimes, they do a lot more with them more often.

[Bobhead]

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Oh look another one of these threads. I guess open shooters in the NBA make 100% of their shots too. Open receivers etc...

And "Wheelhouse" doesn't even mean you hit the ball particularly well, it just means the pitch was in one of your "red zones." It's possible to have only made "Okay" contact and still get the Wheelhouse thing. The search feature will also provide more information. These threads are made every week.

[PsychoBulk]

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Wheelhouse + perfect timing only modifies a dice roll. It's about making more good swings than not. Even awesome hitters miss meatballs sometimes, they do a lot more with them more often.

Oh look another one of these threads. I guess open shooters in the NBA make 100% of their shots too. Open receivers etc...

And "Wheelhouse" doesn't even mean you hit the ball particularly well, it just means the pitch was in one of your "red zones." It's possible to have only made "Okay" contact and still get the Wheelhouse thing. The search feature will also provide more information. These threads are made every week.

Sense.

Welcome to Baseball, a sport when superb contact and timing on swings can result in an out, and awful, emergency hacks can get you a hit.

I love it.

[Sigma4Life]

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Sense.

Welcome to Baseball, a sport when superb contact and timing on swings can result in an out, and awful, emergency hacks can get you a hit.

I love it.

Problem #1 - Wheelhouse implies excellent contact.
Problem #2 - Major League hitters rarely whiff on middle - middle pitches or balls in their 'wheelhouse'. If they did they wouldn't be in the Major Leagues to begin with.

Show up at your local Major league ballpark a couple hours early and watch batting practice. That will let you know what a MLB quality hitter does to balls in his 'wheelhouse'.

It's very convenient how no one wants to comment on how I only have 5 homeruns in 31 online games, yet I'm destroying competition at 26 - 5. How many total homeruns do you guys have in your online games? How many games have you played?

I'm ok with the occasional perfect swing ending with poor results. The problem is perfect swings too often end with weak hits in MLB 12. Major League hitters rarely miss perfect pitches with perfect timing. It should at least be a smash right at a defensive player for an out, not a weak ground ball or flyball 50% of the time.

Anyone who contests that basic fact of hitting doesn't know baseball and / or never played.

[BobbyColtrane]

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Even awesome hitters miss meatballs sometimes, they do a lot more with them more often.

But if it says "wheelhouse", "perfect timing", and "perfect stride" how is he "missing" it?

[PsychoBulk]

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Problem #1 - Wheelhouse implies excellent contact.

No it doesnt.

It simply implies in was in the hitters hottest zones, it doesnt mean you made great contact or even anything better than ok.

Bobhead has said as much above, and he was right.

I dont ever play online nor intend to so i couldnt comment on that, what i do know is i have no problem hitting a reasonable amount of homeruns, some on good pitches, some on bad, some in the wheelhouse, some on the edge of the zone, some even out of the zone completely.

There is no science to hitting a round ball with a round object.

[Bobhead]

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But if it says "wheelhouse", "perfect timing", and "perfect stride" how is he "missing" it?

First of all he said nothing about missing the pitch, just making poor contact. None of those things come close to guaranteeing solid contact. Maybe the batter misread the pitch and swung high instead of low? Inside instead of out? There are a billion possibilities, and to ignore them all for convenience defies the very nature of the game.

Anyone who contests that basic fact of hitting doesn't know baseball and / or never played.

Then please do explain why even the best hitters only get hits 3/10 times? Please explain how even against the most terrible pitchers, teams rarely get more than 12-15 hits in the game, despite having over 40 chances? Please explain to me how even a pitcher like Daisuke Matsuzaka which we all know is far from decent, posts an ERA over 5, while batters have only posted a .290 batting average on balls in play, and only a .240 average overall? Surely every single one of those wheelhouse pitches he threw should have been turned into hits right? Right?

The only one who doesn't understand baseball here is you, my friend. I'm done here.

[Cavicchi]

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I use Timing only for hitting. At least a few times a game I get that perfect swing in the wheelhouse to result in a miss, not to mention the popups, ground balls into DP, fly outs, etc. The misses on those perfect swings in the wheelhouse are usually due "swinging under or over" the pitch. What I think is happening there is timing is perfect but the swing is not. Perfect timing but imperfect swing.

[HustlinOwl]

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I use Timing only for hitting. At least a few times a game I get that perfect swing in the wheelhouse to result in a miss, not to mention the popups, ground balls into DP, fly outs, etc. The misses on those perfect swings in the wheelhouse are usually due "swinging under or over" the pitch. What I think is happening there is timing is perfect but the swing is not. Perfect timing but imperfect swing.

timing takes all attributes into consideration therefore players are more inclined to perform how intended. I suggest switch to zone hitting and lower difficulty if youre not comfortable moving the PCI with left analog.

[Knight165]

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I'd also like to add....that what about when the pitcher is making a perfect/perfect pitch in those situations.
Does the batting ALWAYS have to win out?

Considering that in the baseball world....making a mistake while batting 2/3rds of the time is considered excellent.....I think not.

M.K.
Knight165

[Cavicchi]

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timing takes all attributes into consideration therefore players are more inclined to perform how intended. I suggest switch to zone hitting and lower difficulty if youre not comfortable moving the PCI with left analog.

Maybe you misunderstood me. I'm not complaining, just trying to explain why it happens. Like I said, perfect timing with imperfect swing. The swing is not always the same. If the pitch is higher, the swing has to be different than if the pitch is lower. I don't think perfect timing should necessarily mean perfect swing, which is why we see the swing being over or under the pitch with perfect timing. Timing is perfect but swing is not. And, as Knight said above, one has to consider the perfect pitch.

I think I fully understand why perfect timing does not always result in success, and I accept that as reality. Believe me, I enjoy playing this game, and very happy that CPU batters don't always have success against my perfect pitch

[Jeter2]

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While yes I understand that baseball isnt as simple as perfect timing equals great results, there is a certain issue that many people are refusing to acknowledge. I've struck out on fastballs where the swing timing was perfect and the PCI was clearly over the ball but I couldn't make contact

[JohnMcClaneTW]

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I can agree with some of the OP in this thread.

Offline and online play VERY differently. If we are talking offline, the hits that you get "Wheelhouse + Perfect Timing + Perfect Stride" seem to be hit harder more often, and fall for hits more often.

Talking online, it's an entirely different story. This game just does not want players to get hits online at the moment. Many hits that you think should be hit hard are weak, and even when you do hit it hard, it is almost always right at someone.

This is just my experience with the game so far.