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  • JDL375
    Rookie
    • Apr 2010
    • 397

    #1

    First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

    I'm wondering if the game just thinks A-Rod and Teixiera are bad, or if everybody is having this problem. I am incapable of fielding any balls hit to first or third, unless they are hit DIRECTLY at the first or third basemen. Any ball hit even SLIGHTLY to their left or right they just give this little lean and miss. Hitting the jump/dive buttons will not work to execute a dive for the first and third basemen to a ball rolling by them....they just lean over to pick it up and fail to do so. Previous years games I was able to execute dives in the holes, but not this year.

    This is killing me because I'm getting singled to death. Is this something that can be patched, or are we just going to have to live with terrible corner defense until MLB 13 The Show? Or am I doing something wrong?
  • ManiacMatt1782
    Who? Giroux!
    • Jul 2006
    • 3982

    #2
    Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

    There is a delay in transferring control, and it causes a hickup. And the defender doesn't get into position quick enough, and you get that FIELDER got handcuffed/looks afraid of the ball animation. This is only a user problem. If you play auto fielding or take notice at the CPU, this doesn't happen nearly as frequently.
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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #3
      Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

      It's possible - your position and the type of hit is everything:

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      Both in the same game. Again - where you have your defense lined up is key. Most don't want to move their 3rd basemen over to guard the line.
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      • ManiacMatt1782
        Who? Giroux!
        • Jul 2006
        • 3982

        #4
        Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

        Actually my problem is with the sharply hit grounder to the left of the 3rdbaseman, so between him and the short stop but closer to the 3rd baseman Usually this is a 1 - 2 step field the ball and have to pieoette the trow type of play, but By the time I start getting him moving, he goes into the "I am scared of the ball"animation instead of diving or running in front and knocking it down. Instead the ball is in left field. I really don't see much beating me down the lines to be honest.
        Last edited by ManiacMatt1782; 05-01-2012, 05:10 PM.
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        • C_Bailey24
          Pro
          • Oct 2002
          • 691

          #5
          Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

          Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
          Actually my problem is with the sharply hit grounder to the left of the 3rdbaseman, so between him and the short stop but closer to the 3rd baseman Usually this is a 1 - 2 step field the ball and have to pieoette the trow type of play, but By the time I start getting him moving, he goes into the "I am scared of the ball"animation instead of diving or running in front and knocking it down. Instead the ball is in left field. I really don't see much beating me down the lines to be honest.
          I know exactly what you mean and it's very annoying. I use the Guard Lines defense in the appropiate situation so that has nothing to do with it. The groundball to the left of the 3B and the one to the right of the 1B seems impossible to field because the guy goes into the animation before you get a chance to control him and it can't be overridden. I like having some interaction in the fielding so auto-fielding is not an option so i just live with these cheap hits.

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          • saturn2187
            Rookie
            • Jun 2010
            • 276

            #6
            Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

            yup seems like we just have to live with it

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            • WahooWisher
              Rookie
              • May 2010
              • 12

              #7
              Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

              I have had the same problem and it has nothing to do with the fielding ratings of your corner infield players from what I've seen. I started a 'chise with the Red Sox and having gold glovers like Gonzalez at first and Youkilis at third seems to mean nothing when it comes to those types of ground balls.

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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #8
                Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

                While I've only started looking for this, it's not impossible from what I've seen. May be difficult but then again, obviously it's quite possible.

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                I know the animation in question however. The problem with stuff like this is one person says it's not possible, so when you see it you start thinking the same thing. The "reach" animation actually happens quite often in the majors, hence the reason it's here. The immediate, reflex dive though... that seems impossible to react to as a human...
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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21789

                  #9
                  Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

                  Fielding is the only real achilles heal of this great game. I loved fielding on MVP 05. But it did not look as gorgeous as The Show.

                  That is the trade off. Animations or real time herky jerky video game like movements. So I went to Auto Fielding for The Show and have never looked back. Ratings driven and visually stunning.

                  I still throw everything though. And with pre-loading throws as well as throw canceling the game plays and looks silky smooth. Turning 6-4-3's feels and looks great. Plus once the fielder catches the ball you can take control of his movments if you wish. I do that with the corners to step on bags or make tags or reset them to make a better throw (3B especially).

                  Like some of you have said if you must field.....it is something that you have to live with. Otherwise they will have to remove the animations to make it lighting repsonsive like an MVP 05. It is a give and take visually.
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                  • ManiacMatt1782
                    Who? Giroux!
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3982

                    #10
                    Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

                    Originally posted by Pared
                    While I've only started looking for this, it's not impossible from what I've seen. May be difficult but then again, obviously it's quite possible.

                    <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-xppyiyqkZ0?rel=0" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

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                    I know the animation in question however. The problem with stuff like this is one person says it's not possible, so when you see it you start thinking the same thing. The "reach" animation actually happens quite often in the majors, hence the reason it's here. The immediate, reflex dive though... that seems impossible to react to as a human...
                    I wouldn't say it's impossible, rather you get stuck in an animation that doesn't allow you to react too frequently. Couple that with a slight delay in actually getting control of the fielder after the ball is put in play, sharply hit balls that should be within range are a bit frustrating at times. I have gotten to balls when I don't get stuck in the "handcuffed" animation. I wish that animation would be less frequent.
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                    • Pared
                      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 39337

                      #11
                      Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

                      I hear ya - the initial reaction animation, if coupled into a fielding or miss animation, allows little to no reaction time/input from the user.

                      Blend the dive animation into the miss animation so you allow the user to still dive if it plays out, even if they miss - problem solved.
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                      • nonnel
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 321

                        #12
                        Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

                        Completely agree with OP. The animation locks you up and you have to just watch the ball roll by the 3b or 1b when seemingly, he should be able to easily knock it down. It's quite frustrating and wasn't in past versions.

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                        • thaSLAB
                          [Player 1]
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4495

                          #13
                          Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

                          I really just wanted to show off my diving stop lol, but I have noticed that because of the reaction time, most dives at the corners this year end up being diagonal.

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                          • game dawg
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 52

                            #14
                            Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            I hear ya - the initial reaction animation, if coupled into a fielding or miss animation, allows little to no reaction time/input from the user.

                            Blend the dive animation into the miss animation so you allow the user to still dive if it plays out, even if they miss - problem solved.
                            With all respect Pared, what the hell are you talking about? Blend what with what? I'm a gamer, what do I do with the controller to respond to this? Please clarify.

                            Respectfully, dawg

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                            • Bobhead
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 4926

                              #15
                              Re: First and Third Basemen incapable of fielding any balls?

                              I am with the OP. It's clearly not impossible, as Pared pointed out, but that annoying "olé" animation is probably the most annoying thing in all of this year's game. Yes, it happens in real life, but the animation is very poorly represented. It's also quite ridiculous that one should be "locked" into any sort of animation before they ever have a chance to do something.

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